Kisame > KCM Naruto

[Fodder#4]

You've posted such a nice argument but I'll beat it.

1st off about the SM chakra Preta absorbed you failed to grasp that, Naruto was almost running out of it why? Because he had used toe FRS prior to that Situation. His SM limit at that time was

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So technically Naruto's SM was over when Preta grabbed him, Naruto just gathered some and allowed it to absorb, Had preta tried it on Recharged SM it was a GG.

Also You made the wrong comparison Edo Nagato why? For 1 Edo Nagato started to absorb continuously from

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Kisame's Samehada I repeat absorbed a chunk of chakra that was enought to summon Gamabunta in 1 whip and in this battle that's his down fall.

When Samehada is out of the equation then its pretty much over [it wasn't a big fight for Naruto anyways] Naruto can Kuchiyose Boss Summons even Ma and Pa they can genjutsu solo.

The Boss Summons would overwhelm Kisame at any given time. Also it Kisame gets in the range of Frog Fu its game over for him. If he tires long range then FRS kills him. Naruto can spawn SM clones to make matter worse for Kisame. They go in without any fear and just overwhelm him with the Rasengans or Odama Rasengans or Rasenrengans. I mean speed wise, reflex wise SM Naruto is far above Kisame.

Further as said earlier we know that SM sensing is the real *****, whatever Kisame throws gets avoided and countered.

This is a fight that Kisame just can't win.

I shall start with the first part, you have somewhat countered Samehada. But, at the same time you also gave me what I needed to keep Samehada in play.

Sensing is the key. You're correct on this! Close range blows will be anticipated and avoided to the best of Naruto's abilities. Meaning, a direct hit will be hard to come across. And, as I have proved earlier, there is a range to Samehada's chakra absorption. Meaning, small bits here and there will be lost and there.

And we can both agree on this point, small bits of Senjutsu chakra can be absorbed without any negative consequences. As you've said, The Preta Path has shown to absorb it without any downside, only the continuious flow of chakra into him was shown to be the down side.

Also, it was HALF of his Senjutsu chakra absorbed. Don't kid us, that first FRS was a henged Naruto. As shown in the page you provided. So, I shall correct my earlier statement. Anything less then half of Sage Mode Naruto's chakra can be absorbed without a problem.

I do not exactly understand your point with Nagato. That proves that the Preta Path can just absorb chakra all the quicker. And, a BANDAGED Samehada was able to take out enough chakra to summon Gamabunta. An unsheathed Samehada can absorb plenty more.

The battle is over then? I was not aware. I offered a counter that can be used. And, you do realize how much time and chakra it took Jiraiya to summon Ma and Pa? Safe to say It'll only be Gamabunta coming to the rescue. He seems to only want to summon one toad at a time. As that is all he has ever done.

Great Shark Bomb would deal with the frog summons(Most likely Gamabunta) or a Sage Mode Naruto, anyways. It literally takes seconds to use. [

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A water dome and overloading Sage Mode Naruto with Shark Summons is a pretty neat plan, right? Kisame COULD do this with or without Samehada. Simply saying 'anything he has is countered' is not true.

Kisame will be winning this High Diff. I disagree with you completely on the verdict. But, it's obvious that this will be going on for a good time. This will be my last counter, I don't exactly wish to get into a multi-hour long debate over this. It's not enjoyable to me at all.

Feel free to counter it, but the chances of me responding to it in such a manner as my previous posts are rather slim.

 

[Fodder#4]

Touché my friend. Always a pleasure discussing Kisame with you. .

The same to you. And how far are you on your little project?

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Yep.

GSB absorbs all that awesome KCM chakra for Kisame. Not to mention giant water dome takes away Naruto's mobility.

GSB and water dome requires seals, which he has no time to do, seeing as how Naruto can blitz him.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

The same to you. And how far are you on your little project?

Man, i'm really just taking my time with this. Doing a little each day. I got about...i'd like to say, 60% of it done, after some set backs. I expect it to be done in the next couple of days.

 

[Fodder#4]

Man, i'm really just taking my time with this. Doing a little each day. I got about...i'd like to say, 60% of it done, after some set backs. I expect it to be done in the next couple of days.

That's good! Glad to see you have time to work on it when you're not working for a moped -.-.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

That's good! Glad to see you have time to work on it when you're not working for a moped -.-.

LMAO! I actually got work in a few. Stop hating on mopeds, they're awesome. -___-

 

[Minator93]

I shall start with the first part, you have somewhat countered Samehada. But, at the same time you also gave me what I needed to keep Samehada in play.

Sensing is the key. You're correct on this! Close range blows will be anticipated and avoided to the best of Naruto's abilities. Meaning, a direct hit will be hard to come across. And, as I have proved earlier, there is a range to Samehada's chakra absorption. Meaning, small bits here and there will be lost and there.

And we can both agree on this point, small bits of Senjutsu chakra can be absorbed without any negative consequences. As you've said, The Preta Path has shown to absorb it without any downside, only the continuious flow of chakra into him was shown to be the down side.

Also, it was HALF of his Senjutsu chakra absorbed. Don't kid us, that first FRS was a henged Naruto. As shown in the page you provided. So, I shall correct my earlier statement. Anything less then half of Sage Mode Naruto's chakra can be absorbed without a problem.

I do not exactly understand your point with Nagato. That proves that the Preta Path can just absorb chakra all the quicker. And, a BANDAGED Samehada was able to take out enough chakra to summon Gamabunta. An unsheathed Samehada can absorb plenty more.

The battle is over then? I was not aware. I offered a counter that can be used. And, you do realize how much time and chakra it took Jiraiya to summon Ma and Pa? Safe to say It'll only be Gamabunta coming to the rescue. He seems to only want to summon one toad at a time. As that is all he has ever done.

Great Shark Bomb would deal with the frog summons(Most likely Gamabunta) or a Sage Mode Naruto, anyways. It literally takes seconds to use. [

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A water dome and overloading Sage Mode Naruto with Shark Summons is a pretty neat plan, right? Kisame COULD do this with or without Samehada. Simply saying 'anything he has is countered' is not true.

Kisame will be winning this High Diff. I disagree with you completely on the verdict. But, it's obvious that this will be going on for a good time. This will be my last counter, I don't exactly wish to get into a multi-hour long debate over this. It's not enjoyable to me at all.

Feel free to counter it, but the chances of me responding to it in such a manner as my previous posts are rather slim.

Same here U_U

Again you didn't grasp that two FRS were used. I know the 1 that was transformed, I wasn't even talking bout that. Had you taken a few mins and checked it out for yourself you would've posted different argument.

1st FRS that was completely absorbed [

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Now about Summoning Ma and Pa, Jiraya needed loads of time just to Enter in SM and that's why it takes time for him to summon Ma and Pa as opposed to Naruto who is a PERFECT Sage and can enter SM in few seconds. He can summon Ma and Pa with ease.

Naruto can easily Fire FRS at Great Shark Bomb and that pretty much destroys it with Kisame. I may have underrated Kisame here but you have to understand that Naruto uses clones and a clone can do whatever to real one does! Naruto given his sensing would obviously use feints.

Water dome requires Samehada which I already have countered. Also for Kisame to do that Shark tech he requires water in the field, I've gone back to Guy vs Kisame the fight happened in the sea U_U

So the location matters here. Also Kisame absorbs chakra inside waterdome which is again its downs fall thanks to Senjutsu U_U

I'm out.