Kisame Is Underrated (Details Inside)

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Lol? really? he showed the capability of warping out of kamui? Your trying to argue against logic to make your arguments sound better. Give me one good reason why he couldnt warp to the kamui world except for he cant because he is not obito crap :|

sigh.. i know naruto is the only person capable of pulling off 1000 clowns but once again like i said that wasnt my opponent. What I meant someone who gets trapped in the dome can use a method of sheer numbers obviously not 1000 clones but a diversion to throw kisame off. 1000 clones are not necessary.

There are times in the manga when kakashi should've warp inside the dimension himself but he didn't, why? Kakashi hasn't been confirmed to do, just because he can get outside doesn't mean he can get inside, like I said kakashi should be intangible too right??

And even if kakashi can get inside, it doesn't matter, I still think kakashi>kisame. Im just saying don't speculating and give kakashi a counter that he doesn't have yet.

you're still not getting the point, im saying it doesnt matter about sheer numbers, CLONES DIE FAST, they wont get out the dome period, kisame's chakra is inside the dome like he did against killer bee, it'll be hard to breathe and he can still fight if his view is blocked because he can feel chakra while in the dome
 

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deidara was respectful to sasori because that was his partner for years, just like itachi had respect for kisame but itachi was stronger.





there is a chance that he's top 15 but I seriously doubt it
Depends on how you match up.
 

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There are times in the manga when kakashi should've warp inside the dimension himself but he didn't, why? Kakashi hasn't been confirmed to do, just because he can get outside doesn't mean he can get inside, like I said kakashi should be intangible too right??

And even if kakashi can get inside, it doesn't matter, I still think kakashi>kisame. Im just saying don't speculating and give kakashi a counter that he doesn't have yet.

you're still not getting the point, im saying it doesnt matter about sheer numbers, CLONES DIE FAST, they wont get out the dome period, kisame's chakra is inside the dome like he did against killer bee, it'll be hard to breathe and he can still fight if his view is blocked because he can feel chakra while in the dome
This should be funny to hear about. Do care to explain what kakashi can do to Kisame with his abysmal reserves and absorb-able Raikiri.

>Inb4 Kamui head off GG.




IDK why people are still arguing about WD. There's obviously many ninja that can contend with it. It's not an instant fight stopper.
 

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There are times in the manga when kakashi should've warp inside the dimension himself but he didn't, why? Kakashi hasn't been confirmed to do, just because he can get outside doesn't mean he can get inside, like I said kakashi should be intangible too right??

And even if kakashi can get inside, it doesn't matter, I still think kakashi>kisame. Im just saying don't speculating and give kakashi a counter that he doesn't have yet.

you're still not getting the point, im saying it doesnt matter about sheer numbers, CLONES DIE FAST, they wont get out the dome period, kisame's chakra is inside the dome like he did against killer bee, it'll be hard to breathe and he can still fight if his view is blocked because he can feel chakra while in the dome

Why are you still arguing this? Regarding kakashi being able to go intangible too that logic is piss poor since it's a skill that obito developed with his kamui that feat is different then simply warping to the kamui dimension.

Smh listen it's called common sense. He is able to use kamui on himself thus exiting the dimension. That in mind why the hell would he not be able to warp to the very same dimension that he just left :|. We dont need to see him do it, its called fken common sense. Stop fabricating the manga to make your petty arguments sound better. It's pathetic.

you're still not getting the point, im saying it doesnt matter about sheer numbers, CLONES DIE FAST, they wont get out the dome period, kisame's chakra is inside the dome like he did against killer bee, it'll be hard to breathe and he can still fight if his view is blocked because he can feel chakra while in the dome

Oh lord.. the clones purpose are distraction they are simply meant to keep kisame busy enough where the victim will be able to swim out of it.
 

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there is a difference between respect and admitting inferiority, itachi never said anything about kisame being stronger :eww:

like i said deidara is not that kind of guy, he wouldn't say BS just to show respect (specially if what you said was true and that he was stronger).

you're right, there is a difference, I don't remember deidara ever mentioning sasori being stronger than him, deidara only showed sasori a lot of respect, respect has nothing to do with who's stronger.

that's not what I meant with itachi and kisame, I meant that itachi respects kisame even though everyone knew itachi was stronger, that the same thing between deidara and sasori

we are off topic

Kisame isn't underrated ffs.

At times he is

people think kakuzu can beat him

Kakuzu is overrated.

I really don't think so, he got trolled by naruto badly though
 

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true but ranking wise he still wouldn't make top 15 IMO

top 20 for sure though



well true, I take it back, I was gonna say kakashi can still hit kisame with kamui but kisame still has a large amount of water to block kakashi's view. And kisame has great healing abilities.

kisame>kakashi in a 1v1 fight but kakashi>kisame in overall ranking wise



kakashi still isn't able to fully use kamui yet, that's why I said its not confirmed idiot, we all know kakashi will be able to fully use kamui EVENTUALLY, but we still have no proof that he learn how to do it YET, like before this arc kakashi was nowhere near the level he's on now with kamui. Its called progression.

OMG, clones cant distract kisame if they die fast, just forget it

oh god im done debating with you, your hopeless. So kakashi can warp out of the dimension but cant warp back to it? lmao alright. and regarding the kisame situation your hopeless.
 

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oh god im done debating with you, your hopeless. So kakashi can warp out of the dimension but cant warp back to it? lmao alright. and regarding the kisame situation your hopeless.

give me a link of kakashi doing it

of course kakashi will learn how to do it EVENTUALLY, but you're the one assuming not me
 

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Kakuzu is overrated.

Why must you insult me so, pretty sure i complemented Kisame lol :what:

lol?

If their is FTG kunai outside of the water dome, minato can warp to the kunai thus warping out of the dome :| Not too mention if minatos kage bushins happen to be outside of the dome they can warp him out of it as well.

Lol? how long do you think kamui takes? kakashi warps to kamui world and his out of the dome. thats that.

Except why would he have a random Kunai sitting on the outside when it clearly would take up the space they were fighting in before and then some (don't make me get scan) and he's not throwing one out as we all know its harder to throw things underwater

Are you Giving Kakashi warping ability for no reason? That is the Left Eye of the MS ability which Kakashi does not have, ....At least i think its the left, whatever one Kakashi doesn't have U_U If Kakashi warps himself via HIS kamui and then Warps back he would return to his original position i believe
 

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It's fun to do that Zex; >_>........ So shhh, and just accept the fact that I may insult Kakuzu from time to time
 

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Why must you insult me so, pretty sure i complemented Kisame lol :what:



Except why would he have a random Kunai sitting on the outside when it clearly would take up the space they were fighting in before and then some (don't make me get scan) and he's not throwing one out as we all know its harder to throw things underwater

Are you Giving Kakashi warping ability for no reason? That is the Left Eye of the MS ability which Kakashi does not have, ....At least i think its the left, whatever one Kakashi doesn't have U_U If Kakashi warps himself via HIS kamui and then Warps back he would return to his original position i believe

While its obvious Kakashi can warp himself inside the Kamui dimension and to say otherwise his completely foolish. I do agree with the bold. He'd most likely end up where he warped in as seen and .
 

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Except why would he have a random Kunai sitting on the outside when it clearly would take up the space they were fighting in before and then some (don't make me get scan) and he's not throwing one out as we all know its harder to throw things underwater

Are you Giving Kakashi warping ability for no reason? That is the Left Eye of the MS ability which Kakashi does not have, ....At least i think its the left, whatever one Kakashi doesn't have U_U If Kakashi warps himself via HIS kamui and then Warps back he would return to his original position i believe

I am giving logical scenario's for ftg to work via water dome.

It's simply critical scenario's i never said they would be absolute but they are counters to WD. If it just so happens that thier is a ftg kunai outside of WD then minato can escape it. FACT

Are you Giving Kakashi warping ability for no reason? That is the Left Eye of the MS ability which Kakashi does not have, ....At least i think its the left, whatever one Kakashi doesn't have U_U If Kakashi warps himself via HIS kamui and then Warps back he would return to his original position i believe

Lol even you zex? it seems we have another clown here. So kakashi can warp out of the dimension but he cannot go back to the very same dimension he just came back out of? Lmao alright bro. Even though the kamui eyes
(obito and kakashi) share different feats and have advantages over each other at the end of the day they are still the same eye regardless. He is able to perform kamui on himself thus escaping the dimension why can he not go back to it? :|

once he warps kisame should have no reason to still have the WD up.
 

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While its obvious Kakashi can warp himself inside the Kamui dimension and to say otherwise his completely foolish. I do agree with the bold. He'd most likely end up where he warped in as seen and .

I think that its obvious that kakashi will EVENTUALLY warp himself inside the dimension

we all know this BUT it is not confirmed

we all knew naruto would combine SM and BM, but it wasn't canon until right now

kakashi is in the same situation, no matter how common sense it is, kakashi cant do it until kishimoto puts it in the manga and you can show a link
 

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Kisame is top 20. Too many characters that are great in the manga to be top 15. Sasori > Kisame, Kakazu > Kisame, and Deidara > Kisame.

Lol believe me i got it :p


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Kisame is top 20. Too many characters that are great in the manga to be top 15. Sasori > Kisame, Kakazu > Kisame, and Deidara > Kisame.


kisame>sasori and kakuzu...

I do think deidara can beat kisame, though I put kisame higher rank wise
 

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I think that its obvious that kakashi will EVENTUALLY warp himself inside the dimension

we all know this BUT it is not confirmed

we all know naruto would combine SM and BM, but it wasn't canon until right now

kakashi is in the same situation, no matter how common sense it is, kakashi cant do it until kishimoto puts it in the manga and you can show a link

Warping himself is achieved by him using Kamui on himself. He used Kamui on himself and was warped to the real world. So by using Kamui on himself again he ends up in the dimension.

Its a manga fact that Kakashi can use Kamui on himself so he can warp into the dimension or warp out. Manga fact. Not debatable. Stop trying to nitpick at insignificant details, cause you make no sense at all.

If we went by your logic, someone who opened a door and walked out of a room couldn't open the same door and walk in to the same room just because we haven't seen him do it before. lmao. You make no sense.

Saying he can't warp into the Kamui dimension is the same as saying he can't use Kamui on himself and that is contradicting the manga, which makes you wrong.
 

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Warping himself is achieved by him using Kamui on himself. He used Kamui on himself and was warped to the real world. So by using Kamui on himself again he ends up in the dimension.

Its a manga fact that Kakashi can use Kamui on himself so he can warp into the dimension or warp out. Manga fact. Not debatable. Stop trying to nitpick at insignificant details, cause you make no sense at all.

If we went by your logic, someone who opened a door and walked out of a room couldn't open the same door and walk in to the same room just because we haven't seen him do it before. lmao. You make no sense.

Saying he can't warp into the Kamui dimension is the same as saying he can't use Kamui on himself and that is contradicting the manga, which makes you wrong.

lmao get turnt up KG.
 
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