Kirin vs Rasen Shuriken
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It's only been used once and the one who said it was not dodgeable was Sasuke (The user of the technique). I can list a few things as to why it's more than likely dodgeable though. The one that doesn't require much explanation is that Zetsu (If I'm not mistaken, would have to go back to the chapter, but feel free to search and correct me if I'm wrong) compared Tobi's S/T jutsu speed to the speed of light, so that means Tobi can dodge it, which means A+Minato+Naruto can dodge it.
Anyways back on topic, Rasengshuriken wins the thread since the question was which is more easy to use in battle basically.
I apologize, Zetsu said as well that it's not able to escape it in this manga page
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But I only researched that since I knew the chapter lol, Not sure the chapter where Zetsu compares Tobi's speed though, too lazy to research it.
But basically my reason to it is
Fourth Raikage:
He uses the Nature Release of Lightning to make himself faster than he already is in his base speed (Which is fast as well, commented on by Zetsu during the five Kage meeting) so that speed + the extra gained speed with his Lightning armor makes him unable to dodge (So we think anyways, as Tobi has dodged his V1 armor and Naruto dodged his V2) now if A uses Lightning to make himself faster, why would lightning not be as fast as Kirin(Which is lightning) so basically my belief to it is, A is as fast as Kirin, or if he's lucky, he's a little faster due to his already great speed
Minato Namikaze:
Dodged A with his FTG, Minato himself is already fast with his base speed but he's not faster than A's V2 if he's just using base speed, so he used FTG to dodge it, and S/T techniques are fast since you're bending the way things should work by teleporting, now that means Minato is faster than A, which is understandable, FTG is faster than anything, the only thing that is on par with it is Tobi's S/T, in which case Tobi's is better since you don't need FTG markings, but it's still the same speed as FTG.
Naruto Uzumaki:
He's faster than A, slower than FTG Minato and Tobi, but still fast enough to dodge Kirin.
Tobirama Senju:
This is unknown, but Minato says his S/T techniques are great, so it's possible he may be able to dodge it too.
Tobi:
He can dodge it with his S/T.
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Conclusion: S/T is about the only way you're going to be able to dodge Kirin, unless you're the exception of being the main character, considering as of right now A isn't really known to be faster or maybe just the same speed as Kirin. (These are my reasons for believing it, you don't have to, I'm just adding my knowledge to it, if you think my beliefs are "stupid" then just say you believe differently, not trying to start a debate war.)
Rasen-Shuriken FTW.
Analyzing with the info we have so far:
PROS:
Kirin:
1- "Undodgable"
2- Fast
3- Very destructive
Rasen Shuriken:
1- Can be used more than once
2- Very destructive
3- Can expand damage ratio
Cons:
K:
1- While not an attack that uses chakra, the user would be left in bad shape (almost no chakra)
2- Can only be used once
3- Takes forever to form.
RS:
1- Not fast enough (debatable)
Now you can take into account certain conditions that can affect the outcome of a battle in which both techniques were used. For example, the 3rd Raikage surviving RS because of his lighting armor. That is just one example of a unique ninja surviving a powerful attack. Flip side: Kakuzo was almost destroyed (I think Kakashi finished him up).
Kirin could possibly kill anyone, but if we use real world logic, people have survived being hit by lighting. More importantly, since the attack itself does not use chakra, it's debatable how damaging it could be.
Since the post's question was which one is better in battle, Rasen Shuriken take this one.
Analyzing with the info we have so far:
PROS:
Kirin:
1- "Undodgable"
2- Fast
3- Very destructive
Rasen Shuriken:
1- Can be used more than once
2- Very destructive
3- Can expand damage ratio
Cons:
K:
1- While not an attack that uses chakra, the user would be left in bad shape (almost no chakra)
2- Can only be used once
3- Takes forever to form.
RS:
1- Not fast enough (debatable)
Now you can take into account certain conditions that can affect the outcome of a battle in which both techniques were used. For example, the 3rd Raikage surviving RS because of his lighting armor. That is just one example of a unique ninja surviving a powerful attack. Flip side: Kakuzo was almost destroyed (I think Kakashi finished him up).
Kirin could possibly kill anyone, but if we use real world logic, people have survived being hit by lighting. More importantly, since the attack itself does not use chakra, it's debatable how damaging it could be.
Since the post's question was which one is better in battle, Rasen Shuriken take this one.
Allan Hoshigaki
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what you do not understand is the RS is charka manipluated technique. sasuke kirin jutsu is not rather its speed and devasting power comes from the earth and atmosphere AKA mother nature . this is on a completely different scale on what you can do with your own charka (naruto & RS) compared with what you can do with (mother natures power & Kirin) also lightning reaches the ground in thousanth of a second it is faster than sound ( which jman used to capture nagato in that genjutsu) there is no dodging it unlike RS were Pain dodged it about 2-3 times sage naruto throw it at him ( and thats not using shrina tensei) he actually moved his body out the way.
KIRIN and mother nature raw power take this
Allan Hoshigaki
Banned
kakashi isnt destroying that kirin technique with a raikiri lol your nuts. with the charka sasuke put into those three fire balls kakashi's raikiri could not destroy kirin if that happened to kakashi he would have to kamui it or hes dead . i think you need to see that technique again before you talk
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there no way raikiri is cutting that in half
Kurama2012
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Uchiha Riyo
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Rasenshuriken is chakra, but Kirin is lightning. If they fought Kirin's power would devastate Rasenshuriken.
Rasenshuriken is better in a close fight though. Unless the fight drags out. Kirin would be a last resort for Sasuke.
Rasenshuriken is better in a close fight though. Unless the fight drags out. Kirin would be a last resort for Sasuke.