Kirin is a Senjutsu !

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Take this example :
Kakashi's Raikiri is Lightning attack , does he use natural lightning to do so ? no , he transforms his chakra into lightning because he has a lightning affinity.

Sasuke use real/natural lightning for Kirin and add to it a little bit of his own chakra to shape it into a dragon and controls it.

Do you understand

I do but lightning isn't a living thing.
 

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Manga clearly stated that Sasuke didn't used his chakra incase ur blind I have no complain's abt that ...............

Manga written by Kishi >>>>>ur fanboy logic's

Dnt talk as if ur Kishi..........

See this


Look at clasification ...it is Ninjutsu...

I stat facts , and you should read the description of Kirin.
First off : Natural Chakra based Ninjutsu = Spiritual energy + Physical energy.

Kirin is an Natural energy ( and that's stated in your link ) + Sasuke chakra ( Stated in your link too )
Once a lightning source has been acquired,
shaping and guiding the lightning to the target requires very little chakra
. In addition, usage seems to disperse the thunder clouds as the sky cleared up of clouds after use. As such, this technique can only be used once in a fight. The technique can completely obliterate a small mountain as well as Itachi Uchiha's Susanoo.
 

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I do but lightning isn't a living thing.

That's Naruto world for you.
Go read the manga and you'll understand.
To create a powerful Ninjutsu like FRS , you need to do both Shaping and Nature Transformation ( transform your chakra into an element )
 
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I stat facts , and you should read the description of Kirin.
First off : Natural Chakra based Ninjutsu = Spiritual energy + Physical energy.

Kirin is an Natural energy ( and that's stated in your link ) + Sasuke chakra ( Stated in your link too )
Once a lightning source has been acquired,
shaping and guiding the lightning to the target requires very little chakra
. In addition, usage seems to disperse the thunder clouds as the sky cleared up of clouds after use. As such, this technique can only be used once in a fight. The technique can completely obliterate a small mountain as well as Itachi Uchiha's Susanoo.

Ya it is now conformed that ur blind U read all that stuf and didn't realized a thing abt it and u should take a look at classification bar of that Jutsu,Naruto wiki officially conformed that it is a Ninjutsu
Combining Chakra with natural energy and controling natural energy with chakra are completly different things......

It seems that u dnt knw how to read and understand properly.. .

Ninjutsu = Chakra+ shape manipulation

Senjutsu= Chakra combined with Natural energy + Shape manipulation

once again

Manga>>>>> ur fanboy logic........
 
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Senjutsu is the wrong term for it IMO.

Kirin is pure natural energy (natural lightning).

 

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Ya it is now conformed that ur blind U read all that stuf and didn't realized a thing abt it and u should take a look at classification bar of that Jutsu,Naruto wiki officially conformed that it is a Ninjutsu
Combining Chakra with natural energy and controling natural energy with chakra are completly different things......

It seems that u dnt knw how to read and understand properly.. .

once again

Manga>>>>> ur fanboy logic........

Well it seems that you're blind , i gave argument , i even proven you wrong with your own link , i guess you're too proud to admit you're wrong.
Fair enough continue living in your dream where what you say is fact.
Btw learn how to write properly.
Manga >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your hater logic.

Ciao loser.
 

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Senjutsu is the wrong term for it IMO.

Kirin is pure natural energy (natural lightning).


Yea but it does have normal chakra in it , doesn't that make it Senjutsu ?
 

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Well it seems that you're blind , i gave argument , i even proven you wrong with your own link , i guess you're too proud to admit you're wrong.
Fair enough continue living in your dream where what you say is fact.
Btw learn how to write properly.
Manga >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your hater logic.

Ciao loser.

I have already proved ur fanboy logic's are wrong more than one time with absolute proof's.....

If u still hate to admit that ur wrong I have no business of cmplng abt tat...!

U r under Sasuke's fodder genjutsu...U dnt even knw the dif b/w Ninjutsu and senjutsu....!

Sorry for my bad english Iam not familiar with english but it seems that u can't understand english properly despite of havng a good knwledge of english than me ..........!

Iam leavng since u dnt have a min knwldge on Naruto manga and especially I dnt want to argue wit fanboy's like u........!
 
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I have already proved ur fanboy logic's are wrong more than one time with absolute proof's.....

If u still hate to admit that ur wrong I have no business of cmplng abt tat...!

U r under Sasuke's fodder genjutsu...U dnt even knw the dif b/w Ninjutsu and senjutsu....!

Sorry for my bad english Iam not familiar with english but it seems that u can't understand english properly despite of havng a good knwledge of english than me ..........!

You didn't prove sh*t , i gave you all the arguments that proves my words , and you are saying the same paragraph over and over again.
Anyway you seems like the guy who wants to have the last word , do what you want but don't come shocked when Sasuke smash Obito with Kirin.

Ciao.
 
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No, Senjutsu is imbuing one's chakra with natural chakra, Kirin is nothing more then a Ninjutsu that uses natural lightning.
 

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You didn't prove sh*t , i gave you all the arguments that proves my words , and you are saying the same paragraph over and over again.
Anyway you seems like the guy who wants to have the last word , do what you want but don't come shocked when Sasuke smash Obito with Kirin.

Ciao.

Just keep dreamng I have no right to stop ur dreams and I can't break Sasuke's genjutsu.........!

sorry but I can't help u........!
 

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No, Senjutsu is imbuing one's chakra with natural chakra, Kirin is nothing more then a Ninjutsu that uses natural lightning.

Read the posts in the thread before saying that.
 

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Kirin isn't senjutsu. Senjutsu is made of : natural energy, spiritual energy and physical energy.


When senjutsu is involved, a new type of chakra is created, here with Kirin, we only lightning plus Sasuke's chakra to direct it.

He draws natural lightning directly from thunder clouds to supplement the power of his strike and controls it with chakra.

He controls the lightning. Senjutsu chakra is not involved in the matter.

Plus Kishimoto's databook listed is as "Ninjutsu"
 

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Kirin isn't senjutsu. Senjutsu is made of : natural energy, spiritual energy and physical energy.


When senjutsu is involved, a new type of chakra is created, here with Kirin, we only lightning plus Sasuke's chakra to direct it.



He controls the lightning. Senjutsu chakra is not involved in the matter.

Plus Kishimoto's databook listed is as "Ninjutsu"

Pure lightning = Natural energy
Sasuke's chakra = Physical energy + Spiritual energy.
Kirin = Pure lightning + Sasuke's chakra.
Senjutsu = natural energy+ spiritual energy + physical energy.

Do you get my point ?
 

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Pure lightning = Natural energy
Sasuke's chakra = Physical energy + Spiritual energy.
Kirin = Pure lightning + Sasuke's chakra.
Senjutsu = natural energy+ spiritual energy + physical energy.

Do you get my point ?

I get it but you forgot something.

Kirin is just lightning controlled by Sasuke but senjutsu is not natural energy controlled by chakra. Senjutsu is a mix of natural energy and chakra. It's a new form of chakra. But Kirin is still only lightning. It's not chakra.
 

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I get it but you forgot something.

Kirin is just lightning controlled by Sasuke but senjutsu is not natural energy controlled by chakra. Senjutsu is a mix of natural energy and chakra. It's a new form of chakra. But Kirin is still only lightning. It's not chakra.

Kirin is a Senjutsu attack not Senjutsu.
Senjutsu = New type of chakra.

You can also say that Naruto control Senjutsu in his body while Sasuke controls it outside in the atmosphere.
 

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Kirin is a Senjutsu attack not Senjutsu.
Senjutsu = New type of chakra.

You can also say that Naruto control Senjutsu in his body while Sasuke controls it outside in the atmosphere.

All jutsu are chakra. That's why they say Fire Style, Water Style... It shows the type of chakra that was used. In case of Senjutsu, it says Sage Art.

Kirin is not a Sage Art because it's not made of senjutsu.

You are confounding Natural Energy and Senjutsu.

Kirin is natural energy controlled by chakra.

Senjutsu is a new type of chakra made of natural energy and base chakra.

Sasuke is only directly the natural energy while Naruto transforms it into something else (senjutsu)
 

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All jutsu are chakra. That's why they say Fire Style, Water Style... It shows the type of chakra that was used. In case of Senjutsu, it says Sage Art.

Kirin is not a Sage Art because it's not made of senjutsu.

You are confounding Natural Energy and Senjutsu.

Kirin is natural energy controlled by chakra.

Senjutsu is a new type of chakra made of natural energy and base chakra.

Sasuke is only directly the natural energy while Naruto transforms it into something else (senjutsu)
True, but the natural energy component of Senjutsu is what's allowing it to harm Obito (logical deduction). With this being the case, Kirin should be capable of harming Juubito as it's Natural energy.
 

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I would like to see this technique again, it was one badass technique. I would love to see it used against Juubito.
 

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I would like to see this technique again, it was one badass technique. I would love to see it used against Juubito.
Same. We haven't seen Kirin in 250 chapters (5+ years), its due for a comeback IMO.
 
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