Kirin > Hirodura.

[EZQ]

1. It wasn't weakened.

2 it compressed after it was fired.

3. It did that on its own.

4. They had the same size and then it compressed itself. It didn't get weaker.

Kirin wasn't tanked by a v2 and hirudora didn't destroy a v3 susanoo (no scans, no proof)

again, it didn't get smaller on its own, gai is refering the compression that it makes the instant is fired... Proof? Read the databook <<<--- the one made by kishimoto

 

[UchihaNagashi]

As stated by manga and physics, Raiton is fodder against Fuuton. Yes correct Kirin is basically one of the most strongest attacks in NV, but because Hirudora is a Taijutsu Wind technique it wins. Why? Because wind neutralizes lightning. Even though it is STRONGER it doesn't mean it can WIN. These two are completely different things, and yet most of you can't separate them. This is why I say in terms of destruction strength Kirin>Hirudora , but VS Hirudora>Kirin.

 

[omarsen]

Images don't work for me. Though you probably posted the scan where he got hit and a scan of the explosion and failed to answer the question. Scan of Madara's Susanoo being destroyed? I see it being pushed back, nothing more.

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When the susanoo get damaged it just vanish, as you can see madara got hit back and after that he was laying on the ground without the susanoo

 

[KidGamer65]

1-Read the databook, it compresses and descompresses the instant it gets launched... It got smaller inside kisame's jutsu

2-Evidence that was destroyed: Madara didn't show uo for a whole chapter... if his susanoo wasn't destroyed why didn't he simply stand up and kill Gai?

Evidence it WASN'T destroyed? : NONE

again, it didn't get smaller on its own, gai is refering the compression that it makes the instant is fired... Proof? Read the databook <<<--- the one made by kishimoto

Read the manga. Drawn by Kishimoto.

Guy already stated that it compressed instead of getting weaker, Kisame confirms this by saying "No wonder what I thought was a chakra missile got smaller"

It gets fired, then compresses, then explodes. Fired--->Compression--->Explosion. Nothing you say will discredit Guy's words.

Kirin>Hirudora. V2 blocked Kirin so it will block a weaker tech as well. Kirin flattened a small mountain but a Hirudora stronger than the one used on Madara couldn't even kill Kisame.

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When the susanoo get damaged it just vanish, as you can see madara got hit back and after that he was laying on the ground without the susanoo

Madara was sitting on a small cliff, he wasn't lying on the ground.

 

[Zexion~]

You two are always arguing about this...

 

[EZQ]

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When the susanoo get damaged it just vanish, as you can see madara got hit back and after that he was laying on the ground without the susanoo

^^^^^This

Hey kidgamer, just answer this :

IF SUSANOO DIDN'T GET DESTROYED... THEN WHY DID MADARA JUST STAND UP, WALKED A STEP OR TWO AND KILL GAI WITH HIS "NON DESTROYED SUSANO" INSTEAD OF THAT, HIS SUSANO DISAPEARED AND MADARA DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR A WHOLE CHAPTER

 

[KidGamer65]

^^^^^This

Hey kidgamer, just answer this :

IF SUSANOO DIDN'T GET DESTROYED... THEN WHY DID MADARA JUST STAND UP, WALKED A STEP OR TWO AND KILL GAI WITH HIS "NON DESTROYED SUSANO" INSTEAD OF THAT, HIS SUSANO DISAPEARED AND MADARA DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR A WHOLE CHAPTER

Answer this. How is a weaker tech going to destroy a defense a stronger tech can't destroy?

 

[omarsen]

Hey kidgamer, just answer this :

IF SUSANOO DIDN'T GET DESTROYED... THEN WHY DID MADARA JUST STAND UP, WALKED A STEP OR TWO AND KILL GAI WITH HIS "NON DESTROYED SUSANO" INSTEAD OF THAT, HIS SUSANO DISAPEARED AND MADARA DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR A WHOLE CHAPTER

^This,

why would madara turn off/on/off/on since he has unlimted chakra? like he give a damn

 

[KidGamer65]

You two are always arguing about this...

lol, cause this guy always feels the need to quote me.

 

[EZQ]

Read the manga. Drawn by Kishimoto.

Guy already stated that it compressed instead of getting weaker, Kisame confirms this by saying "No wonder what I thought was a chakra missile got smaller"

It gets fired, then compresses, then explodes. Fired--->Compression--->Explosion. Nothing you say will discredit Guy's words.

Kirin>Hirudora. V2 blocked Kirin so it will block a weaker tech as well. Kirin flattened a small mountain but a Hirudora stronger than the one used on Madara couldn't even kill Kisame.



Madara was sitting on a small cliff, he wasn't lying on the ground.

- The HIRUDORA used on MADARA was stronger than the one used on KISAME... since it NEVER GOT SMALLER

- The GETTING SMALLER THING IS "When Gai makes the jutsu, he compresses a lot of air presure and then releases it, firing HIRUDORA" <-- Compression is how the jutsu works, read the databook,

- Gai was reffering to that ^^^when he said "compression"

- The one used on kisame got weakened

- You haven't answered my question

 

[EZQ]

lol, cause this guy always feels the need to quote me.

Funny how you scraped me out of your sig wwhen you realized that everyone agrees with me

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Madaratard=/=Stating the facts. For example:

Madara stomps Itachi. FACT.

pure overstatement coming from a fanboy

 

[EZQ]

Answer this. How is a weaker tech going to destroy a defense a stronger tech can't destroy?

It can, because Hirudora is stronger than Kirin...

Now you answer MY quiestion

 

[KidGamer65]

- The HIRUDORA used on MADARA was stronger than the one used on KISAME... since it NEVER GOT SMALLER

- The GETTING SMALLER THING IS "When Gai makes the jutsu, he compresses a lot of air presure and then releases it, firing HIRUDORA" <-- Compression is how the jutsu works, read the databook,

- Gai was reffering to that ^^^when he said "compression"

- The one used on kisame got weakened

- You haven't answered my question

-Manga scans disagree. The one he used was against Kisame was bigger while the one used on Madara was smaller.

-Guy and Kisame disagree. Kisame clearly referred to it compressing as when it got smaller after it passed through his GSB.

-Guy and Kisame disagree.


Everything you said has already been debunked. Come back with a valid reply and maybe I'll reply again.

It can, because Hirudora is stronger than Kirin...

Now you answer MY quiestion

Manga disagrees.

 

[EZQ]

You two are always arguing about this...

I've just owned him in every thread and he just doesn't admit defeat... well in some ways he did, he scraped me out of his sig

 

[KidGamer65]

pure overstatement coming from a fanboy

Not really. Madara stomps Itachi.

 

[BlackFlame44]

pure overstatement coming from a fanboy

not an overstatement at all madara could destroy itachi in 2 minutes

 

[BlackFlame44]

-Manga scans disagree. The one he used was against Kisame was bigger while the one used on Madara was smaller.

-Guy and Kisame disagree. Kisame clearly referred to it compressing as when it got smaller after it passed through his GSB.

-Guy and Kisame disagree.


Everything you said has already been debunked. Come back with a valid reply and maybe I'll reply again.



Manga disagrees.

so if one jutsu clashes with a jutsu with similiar size in stength it wont be weakened or at least lose its momentum?

 

[KidGamer65]

so if one jutsu clashes with a jutsu with similiar size in stength it wont be weakened or at least lose its momentum?

-Similar Size=/=Similar strength.
-Doesn't change the fact that the one used against Kisame had a bigger explosion and a stronger effect than the one used on Madara.

couldn't even kill Kisame. LOL

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-Yeah, cause Kisame looks real dead in that picture.

-No arms? Not in this manga.

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Couldn't kill Kisame, but it can break a V3 Susanoo. Gotta love that logic.

 

[BlackFlame44]

couldn't even kill Kisame. LOL

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