@Michelle: As frustrating as it is to read SoulKiller's indignation towards Poison in the form that it appears, do you feel that it is either manufactured or CFTWR? I'm not yet convinced that it is rather than being legitimate townie frustration. If you can explain to me how it's either fake or in bad faith, outside of its intrinsic toxicity, I would welcome that detail.
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I wasn't present sure, but that doesn't mean i don't read the thread and analyze the game. I want to capture scum more than you do. Now, that i actually have the time to be active i am expressing my thoughts and opinions about the situation given. You are taking that post out of context and using it for your own agenda. Ya see, that is not very nice of you.
If you think my posts are an attempt to pocket anyone then oh boi, you in for a rude awakening.
Yes it's called thinking about the eod death choice and lay out all the options. But you are more suss than tsq. I will make a post explaining why later. I don't take ideas from anybody I make my own. Now if it's similar to others that means that player is doing something right with his reads.
Look! we agree on something, i want to lynch mafia this DP as well.
Yes, because we are in DP3 and i need to push my sus players. Not really scummy, if i am going down, might as well just focus on my scum list, and if i get mislynched then hopefully i will leave behind good information for townie to lynch my scum list, contributing and helping town as much i can. Plus, who are you to state what's scummy or not? but maybe ya little bit on edge because you are in my radar? Don't worry i will make a post dedicated to you soon. I just didn't do it because ya see what i been dealin with. My hands were busy. Not anymore tho ^^
Ya see, i would be with ya there if wasn't for all the things i pointed out about Poison. You don't know if lynching me is right or wrong but you still have your vote? what does that tell me about you?
You rely on meta Michelle, i do not. A player can always improve and play differently. I evaluate the situation based on the information presented.
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Just to make things clear. I didn't sub out because of the arguments I had with him. I have nothing against that. That's pretty normal for a game to get into arguments like that.
I simply subbed out cause of the fact that I don't want to be in a game where one of the players don't want to play with me. This fact should not be mistaken.
This is gonna be my last post.
@Alice in Noodleland if you can't find a sub I'll ask a few people around. Sorry to cause you trouble.
I simply subbed out cause of the fact that I don't want to be in a game where one of the players don't want to play with me. This fact should not be mistaken.
This is gonna be my last post.
@Alice in Noodleland if you can't find a sub I'll ask a few people around. Sorry to cause you trouble.
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Maybe not, but i will make sure i play part of it. I am not attacking you, i am stating what you are doing. Just sigh, actually let me just give my updated reads about you first. You will understand why soon enough I view you as scum.
How am I being anti town? i am providing information, frustrations got the best of me and was toxic in the process debating with the poison. But the thoughts i expressed reading wise was not affected. I will just have to put it in a nice big post regarding my thoughts. I feel that will explain alot of answers you have.
idk why you keep using my vote on Drago to incriminate me? Are you perhaps mafia who killed the player i voted to make me look sus?
Given the situation I was in, i placed my vote on the player i found scummiest DP2, that was Red. There was a reason she had the most votes.
It's anittown for you because you are in my scum list. But, next post of mine will be the one dedicated to you.
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Sigh, I didn't mean it personally. Frustration just got the better of me, I very much would like to play with you. The Poison I know never backs down from a fight. So please, continue the game ^^ If not, i completely understand, and apologies for my behavior. Never meant to hurt you, was never my intentions.
If you decide to continue the game, just keep in mind, i will keep my vote on you until something else alarms me that is scummier than you.
Have a good day ^^
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Just a remainder again. Just in case you guys forgot
- Have Fun. Relax Drink some Tea and Enjoy the Game.
- And the most important rule, be RESPECTFUL.
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idk if this is the correct way to play, to undermine previous games infos.
If you repeat she is scum this will not happen if she is not, and you not having any doubt about this is worrisome.
you said this about me too, here is nothing game related but a sentence to have a position of force.
I don't see any crime in using meta and other games knowledge.
it is not just meta. I provided few more ideas and you dismissed them and lost yourself in not game related things.
again, undermining the player not the showing ideas game related.
I want to see you, if you are town, using arguments and game facts not kindergarten fight style.
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Also, apologies to everyone regarding my behavior. Let's just say frustration got the best of me. Now that I cooled down, i can see i overstepped the line i guess.
Now, that's out of the way, let talk about Michelle.
Now, that's out of the way, let talk about Michelle.
^ I made a case on you in DP2. I never came out of no where to attack you. I stated my thoughts during DP2 and now i am following the train of thoughts. Both you and PK switched your votes to rej last minute during DP1. PK lead first and you followed. That was suspicious, you did it again with TSQ in DP2, and you did it again in DP3 following Poison in DP3. Three times. Ya are sheeping people wagons. That is very alarming, plus you agreed with poison case which by itself is very suspicious, since it's full of manipulation. This tells me you are either not reading the game, or just scum who do not care who gets lynched. Which is why you are my second highest scum in my list. Hence why i said your actions from this point on will determine my reads on you. You are in my scum list for now.
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You are talking about you being a mislynch, then show how you are villager. Your attitude doesn't help me to observe this.
So you have the bad day this DP, if you think she is idiot, trust me, I am 10 times more idiot. Good luck.
umm.. what alignament was she in previous games doing this? Asking from curiosity.
You already broke the vase, even if you glue it, it is broken if you know what i mean.
This sentence is so full of emotion, but no matter alignament SK should be very emotional at this point.
You are talking about you being a mislynch, then show how you are villager. Your attitude doesn't help me to observe this.
mafia would not show desperation imo.
I claim i am the biggest idiot you ever played with, and this is a thing i am usually claiming whenever i am pissed off, you can ask anyone who played with me offsite.
So you have the bad day this DP, if you think she is idiot, trust me, I am 10 times more idiot. Good luck.
How could that be a villagery move?
Share us your holistic view please.
umm.. what alignament was she in previous games doing this? Asking from curiosity.
If you are not mafia you are the honorary +1 member of it.
I am not sure, he is posting the same as both alignaments and his indignation is not AI for me.
No, We lynch mafia not your ideas. Start scumhunting and stop whining.
That was a funny post ngl.. you started the ruckus and if you can't see this, this is the problem.
You already broke the vase, even if you glue it, it is broken if you know what i mean.
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I am not undermining anything. I am stating it how I see it, maybe you should do that more often, and maybe you would be less suspicious. Especially, the way you take posts out of context and using it to fit your narrative.
It's called pressuring the player, but you ain't much of an aggressive type are ya ? Ya prefer to stay under the radar.
It was not i was stating facts, If she keeps ignoring points made towards her and not realize the stuff she said. It will make her situation worse which it did.
Cool, I don't see any crime in not using meta as a way for me to read players because again players can always play differently. If scummy points rise up high enough not even meta can save you.
List them again and i will give you my thoughts.
I am using game facts and arguments, you failing to realize them is something you have to work on.
and lmao funny coming from you. But i will do my best to make it to high school fight style!
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Okay Michelle ya can stop taking all my posts out of context and spinning it to fit your own narrative, it's not helping your case. Go, and respond to post #1,410 and let's move from there.
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I will try to keep it as shorter i can
I made a case on you in DP2. I never came out of no where to attack you. - your case in dp2 was when you didn't read the game. It's just not worthy to mention it. Make it again if you don't mind.
Both you and PK switched your votes to rej last minute during DP1. No. I started the wagon on Rej after TSQ voted Tiger. Look better. See, i don't say here you are lying, i ask you to look again. This is the difference between a towny approach and scum approach, scum knows infos and have to force his ideas by any means.
I sheeped TSQ on Elmage to check who will join the wagon. The wagon remained low all day and this with Elmage's attitude made me think he is villager. Forcing a wagon to exist is useful to observe who joins it and who avoids it. Everyone who voted Elmage is villager i think, scum was affraid to vote him. At least this is my conclusion after seeing him night killed. He was spewed villager by the thread and became an unlynchable player.
Pretty much the same is to voting you, i wanted to see who joins the wagon and with what reason. Also, forcing you to play was easier like this, i missed your presence 2 days . My action is town motivated by the need to read you and the need to obtain infos from the other players.
you agreed with poison case which by itself is very suspicious, since it's full of manipulation. What if you are wrong about her? I know for sure you are wrong about me, so ...
This tells me you are either not reading the game, or just scum who do not care who gets lynched. I keep a reserved attitude, because if i go emotional too i can't think logic and this is bad for the game. IF i were scum do you think i would post let me check... 200 posts full of content instead playing like Rej who btw is scum mark my words and you see just Poison and me in all game smh...
I want to inform you i don't see your scum list being full of wolves, so this is one of the reasons i see you're scum.
1. you voted just villagers, parked the vote on them and left the DP. Dragomir in day 1, and Red in day 2.
2. your lack of real reads except the town read on Hammock who you defend way too much. You talk about town core but you don't really work with your town core.
3. lack of sense of towniness in your posts, you attack more players than game ideas.
4. the way you handle your wagon, you have 'favorites' in it and this is fishy.
5. the way you read me, i don't trust town SK being so ferm in scum reading me.
this is humanly normal way of speaking, thank you very much.
I made a case on you in DP2. I never came out of no where to attack you. - your case in dp2 was when you didn't read the game. It's just not worthy to mention it. Make it again if you don't mind.
Both you and PK switched your votes to rej last minute during DP1. No. I started the wagon on Rej after TSQ voted Tiger. Look better. See, i don't say here you are lying, i ask you to look again. This is the difference between a towny approach and scum approach, scum knows infos and have to force his ideas by any means.
I sheeped TSQ on Elmage to check who will join the wagon. The wagon remained low all day and this with Elmage's attitude made me think he is villager. Forcing a wagon to exist is useful to observe who joins it and who avoids it. Everyone who voted Elmage is villager i think, scum was affraid to vote him. At least this is my conclusion after seeing him night killed. He was spewed villager by the thread and became an unlynchable player.
Pretty much the same is to voting you, i wanted to see who joins the wagon and with what reason. Also, forcing you to play was easier like this, i missed your presence 2 days . My action is town motivated by the need to read you and the need to obtain infos from the other players.
you agreed with poison case which by itself is very suspicious, since it's full of manipulation. What if you are wrong about her? I know for sure you are wrong about me, so ...
This tells me you are either not reading the game, or just scum who do not care who gets lynched. I keep a reserved attitude, because if i go emotional too i can't think logic and this is bad for the game. IF i were scum do you think i would post let me check... 200 posts full of content instead playing like Rej who btw is scum mark my words and you see just Poison and me in all game smh...
I want to inform you i don't see your scum list being full of wolves, so this is one of the reasons i see you're scum.
i don't see any vote on her except yours. How is it worse?
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1. you voted just villagers, parked the vote on them and left the DP. Dragomir in day 1, and Red in day 2.
2. your lack of real reads except the town read on Hammock who you defend way too much. You talk about town core but you don't really work with your town core.
3. lack of sense of towniness in your posts, you attack more players than game ideas.
4. the way you handle your wagon, you have 'favorites' in it and this is fishy.
5. the way you read me, i don't trust town SK being so ferm in scum reading me.
stop insisting with narrative, taking out of context and spinning and such things, i am not the case, you are.
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I will reply to the full post later since i gtg for now. But I want to reply to this specific part.
No Michelle, when you are in a battle with me. You become the case.
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When I said support i meant i have a town read for her and i support her in finding scum.
I agree with the read, not fully with the case, so i was putting with my vote my own reasons.
I didn't want to make a case against Imperfection myself because i wanted to let her play, she needs game experience.
Imperfection is extremely scummy in his approach and if needed i will take the Iso and show it.
She went with voting SK so i helped that wagon to exist. This will be helpful no matter SKs alignament for the reasons i stated before.
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