[Game] KINGDOM [ 킹덤 ] MAFIA GAME #25

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Ansatsuken for townish observation of Poison in #284.
Ehh but then he proceeded to talk about whether something is meta or not. Pointless conversation imo. It was clear that Poison and Michelle were arguing over definition.
I don't think this question comes from town (#304). It feels weak and busy, that's it.

I like the way Poison is handling the terminology argument. She sounds genuinely frustrated over it.
Also, loving the pressure on Ansatsuken.

Honestly don't think #324 was that aggressive, but Michelle seems to think so...
@Michelle Is Rej usually a calm person?

Also Michelle vote on me is pretty ehhh?? She was null reading me a moment ago, and I didn't post much after (or at all) and she called it wolfing?

Tigerr is also suspicious in the sense for indirectly supporting that kind of easy vote, while not being committed to calling someone scum directly.
Regarding to post #304

So I can't ask a question at someone that had natural read their target player but still keep their vote on that target player?
 

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Ansatsuken for townish observation of Poison in #284.
Ehh but then he proceeded to talk about whether something is meta or not. Pointless conversation imo. It was clear that Poison and Michelle were arguing over definition.
I don't think this question comes from town (#304). It feels weak and busy, that's it.
Townish observation is a wrong term here, its more about reading and detecting negative/positive narrative on someone's post. It's still not an AI read.

Second, this part makes me question your seriousness and focus towards this game. If you read all my replies to Poison carefully the subject of talking there was not about Meta or not a Meta but about Poison's voting decision, the nature of her vote.

So are you doing all this for a purpose to suspect me using a false/made up reasoning? because anything you have presumed regarding to the intention of my replies were wrong. You didn't get the objective right.
 
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ANNOUNCEMENT

KINGDOM : SPECIAL EVENT
Note: Event story has nothing to do with the game set up.



PRELUDE
In the deepest hour of the night a merchant boat was seen approaching the Han River. A mysterious cloaked figure emerged from the boat . According to a witness , he saw a man. But if you asked the fisherman fishing nearby it was definitely a woman.
A woman holding a mysterious plant and heading towards Hanyang .


GAMEPLAY


Using RNG the winning gat is Letter G.
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We have Four players eligible to play this game.
I will send a PM to these four players.
Full details will be reveal after the game.


Thank You and Goodluck.
 
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DP1 VOTE TALLY V.3

@Poison chan - Michelle UNVOTE-PK
@Just_Red -THESTATUSQUO unvote - PK
@Hammock - POISON CHAN
@osieorb18-JUST_RED
@-PK- - POISON CHAN
@SoulKiller - POISON CHAN DRAGOMIR
@aa-dono - REj ANSATSUKEN
@Michelle - REJ-UNVOTE AA-DONO
@Rej - JUST RED
@Thestatusquo - POISON CHAN
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Ansatsuken- AADONO


V3. Poison Chan is leading with 3 votes while PK, AADONO and JUST_RED are all tie with 2 votes each
DRAGOMIR AND ANSATSUKEN 1 vote each

Please notify the host for any vote count mistakes and discrepancies.

 

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Honestly don't think #324 was that aggressive, but Michelle seems to think so...
@Michelle Is Rej usually a calm person?
The aggressive part is his answer to SK where he is pissed because it seems SK didn't read his posts. The sentence is direct, not pockety in any way, never for a scum mate fmpov so i see it as a towny reaction because I doubt Rej would use it as scum without adding some sugar coating.
read my @%$&ing posts, I already hinted to it, Michelle and ted are townreads, but will give more later on
 
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Regarding to post #304

So I can't ask a question at someone that had natural read their target player but still keep their vote on that target player?
I didn't say you can't. I just believe the question was more busywork than actually helping you get a read.
Townish observation is a wrong term here, its more about reading and detecting negative/positive narrative on someone's post. It's still not an AI read.

Second, this part makes me question your seriousness and focus towards this game. If you read all my replies to Poison carefully the subject of talking there was not about Meta or not a Meta but about Poison's voting decision, the nature of her vote.

So are you doing all this for a purpose to suspect me using a false/made up reasoning? because anything you have presumed regarding to the intention of my replies were wrong. You didn't get the objective right.
I am not gonna argue term.
That's not how I read it, before my post. I get that you question her vote, but the way it was asked makes me think you don't particularly care about what her reasons was. It feels like busywork that is easily fakeable.
Aa-dono have made a case on me but it all just a bluff. Made up case and not based on fact. I sensed something not right there.

Vote Lynch: aa-dono
I don't think those were considered cases on you, but eh, ok.
 
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@Poison chan: I'm playing up the innocent tone as you are suggesting! Since I'm playing under my own name, I might be doing that as scum too! Playing with a gimmick doesn't mean an alignment for me, sorry!

My first ISO of the game, Just_Red!

Just_Red's posts in the first three pages are including nothing in the way of content! A little bit of content generation for the sake of content generation on page 3, but that makes sense; the game is almost starting to get going!

I'm agreeing with Thestatusquo in regards to Post #61! This might have been a joke from Just_Red, but it's no better than NAI!

I'm thinking that Just_Red's flippant posts towards people such as in #65 are NAI at best, again!

She says "That can change" about her lack of support for her read! Does it ever change?!

Poison chan seems trigger-happy to Just_Red! The implication is that Poison chan is scummy for this! Is this read followed up?! Also, a strange feeling that Just_Red has a mild TMI that Poison is town here!

There's a feeling like Just_Red is playing this dodgy game with her read on TSQ that she's never really addressing! There's no strength shown behind either her read on TSQ or her read on Poison, and that's kinda worrisome!

#81 and #87 are social-only! At least one town exists in Just_Red or Poison, though, by this point!

She's REALLY wanting to pass this vote off as fluffy RVS, despite a lot of buildup and focus around it!

#92 says no scumread again, but then... #102, #105, and #109 are maintaining this contradiction of how serious the vote is!

#112 is fluff!

She then tries for an aggressive stop-gap on the seriousness of the vote! Why?! You just had three posts in which you were suspicious of TSQ!

This question contradicts with Just_Red's read of Poison here! There's a mindmeld between Just_Red and Michelle! But at the same time, Just_Red is questioning Michelle's read?!

Here Just_Red TMI's me as town?! Just_Red not knowing of me makes sense! TSQ, Poison, SK, and Michelle all have at least some reason to have an idea of who I am, and would likely say something in mafia chat! So if Just_Red is mafia, it looks good for those four! Aa-dono would also know, but between her shyness and lower activity here, I would be less likely to expect that she would have said something about me, so I wouldn't give aa-dono town points if Just_Red is mafia!

Just_Red's response to my question is the wrong response! This is Red saying that she thinks the people who are scumreading her are town! Not a good look!

More fluff!

Her response to SoulKiller is dripping LAMIST all over the place!

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(OMG Dean is so hot!)

She is deflecting towards poison?!

Here she's posting a readlist but is fence-sitting on everyone and has very little reasoning for anyone!

MORE LAMIST! She seemingly wants SoulKiller above all others to believe she is town!

What's with the shameless flattery?!

Contradiction with Post #72!

My reads are meaningless! All my posts are meaningless!

She's letting Ansatsuken do her work for her!

"Your reads are worthless because they don't cover me!"

Is okay with a very undetailed read on her because at least it's positive!

She's showing lots of laziness and a bit of LAMIST!

This vote isn't contextually explained!

She's objecting to someone else scumreading her scumread?!

And she ends with a fluff response!

Not much to like here!

I'm doubling down on my scumread here! There's a few teams that seem to work there too, and a red flip would townclear a small handful of people for me!

If Just_Red flips scum, it cements my townreads on Michelle, Poison, TSQ, and SoulKiller!

If she flips town, I don't know what I think, other than potentially looking back at Poison and TSQ, at least!
 

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Aa-dono has 14 posts until now. At the moment of my vote there were 7

Now i will explain the idea i had at the moment of my vote and i will reread all the following posts to check if i still have the same read a further post.

First thing i'd like to thank Aa for linking the posts he's talking about :hs: hope everyone will do this by pressing/clicking the chain in the answering box menu, inserting the link and writing the post's number.

Now the Iso:
omg 12 pages....
not AI
Liking Just_Red cheeky answer in #23. Sounds like another town player I know.

Something about Rej's response in #29 feels off. Scummy vibes.

I like Poison's follow up in #33.

Also liking Just_Red's tone in #43. And here #45

Poison is also potentially town for breaking out of fluff here #59[/url.
I really like this logic in [url=https://animebase.me/threads/kingdom-%ED%82%B9%EB%8D%A4-mafia-game-25.774761/post-22001363] #101
because I thought Just_red could have voted anyone she has been interacting up to that point but instead she chooses to vote for thestatusquo. The only thing I'm iffy on is that thestatusquo is making it seems like that reaction is scummy, but doesn't vote there in response.

At page 8 ZZzzzzz
This post is ok-ish presenting what happened itt and giving few detailed reads for few players who i agree gave townish vibes.
For Rej the gif post is the only one who pinged him but for voting a player based on one post when you have town reads based on multiple posts it's showing like he wanted to over explain town reads.
The reason of the vote it's like he had few choices to vote and he's going for Rej at whim:
Yeah I'm gonna go with this

Vote Lynch: Rej
I did mention him. Read again. It's not RVS, but it's not solid either. I figured it's a good enough to vote for someone even just a bit scummy in Day 1.
The justificatiom here sounds like an excuse. I mean i am not sure, I may be wrong, but this kind of ideas i saw usyally from scum mindset
Yeah, it's not great when you point in out in that manner, I guess. They are different people. It's just that beeing cheeky in general feels like town to me. I like him more for his subsequent posts. I wouldn't judge him based off that one post.
Someone from my homesite named Kit, but I can't quote on that.
i understand, and i feel the tone of this post it's honest no matter Aa's AI.
Mine is just a vote for pressure I guess. I haven't decide how to pressure anyone on this site with actual questions though, given more fluff than I usually am accustomed to.
I think this shows the need to premeditate actions. Doesn't matter how you pressure, a villager simply applies pressure by nature, he don't need to make rocket science with it.
I actually scumlean on TSQ for a bit for reasons stated in #241
but his #165 made me think he's trying to think from the other perspective which is pretty townie.
Wishy washy for showing a scum lean is towny in fact. Indecisive stances are wolfish for me.
Hence i put my vote on Aa for wolfish behaviour. I didn't explain the vote more than this on purpose, to see reaction.
Vote lynch @aa-dono
for wolfing tbh.
How is my posts wolfing?
and the reaction it's not a townie indignation as i expected.
Now i am not playing often enough with Aa to remember his hevaiour from other games and solidify by meta my impressions but this was my first wolf read in this game who made me react.
 

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Aa-dono has 14 posts until now. At the moment of my vote there were 7

Now i will explain the idea i had at the moment of my vote and i will reread all the following posts to check if i still have the same read a further post.

First thing i'd like to thank Aa for linking the posts he's talking about :hs: hope everyone will do this by pressing/clicking the chain in the answering box menu, inserting the link and writing the post's number.

Now the Iso:

not AI

This post is ok-ish presenting what happened itt and giving few detailed reads for few players who i agree gave townish vibes.
For Rej the gif post is the only one who pinged him but for voting a player based on one post when you have town reads based on multiple posts it's showing like he wanted to over explain town reads.
The reason of the vote it's like he had few choices to vote and he's going for Rej at whim:


The justificatiom here sounds like an excuse. I mean i am not sure, I may be wrong, but this kind of ideas i saw usyally from scum mindset

i understand, and i feel the tone of this post it's honest no matter Aa's AI.

I think this shows the need to premeditate actions. Doesn't matter how you pressure, a villager simply applies pressure by nature, he don't need to make rocket science with it.

Wishy washy for showing a scum lean is towny in fact. Indecisive stances are wolfish for me.
Hence i put my vote on Aa for wolfish behaviour. I didn't explain the vote more than this on purpose, to see reaction.


and the reaction it's not a townie indignation as i expected.
Now i am not playing often enough with Aa to remember his hevaiour from other games and solidify by meta my impressions but this was my first wolf read in this game who made me react.
I am thinking this matches other Awa games pretty well! She's lurky and fluffy at times regardless of alignment! She rarely was commiting much at times as either alignment as well! I'm scumleaning there, but I'm not thinking she is the best lynch for Day 1!
 

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Why do you think I.m scum @Poison chan lol?
I'll be ISOing you and tell you why you seemed scum leaning to me.
I'm partnering with Michelle is not something that only thought by Poison
I made a slight pressure but Ansatsuken and Michelle is not W/W, they can't be together. Ansa as a mafia barely sticks to his scum buddies. So I guess they won't be scum buddies together.
 

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Another thing why I wouldn't but ansa - Mich as scum buddies cause they voted for aadono consecutively. One of them is definitely not mafia could be a third party but two are not scum together.
 

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Can I say something? @SoulKiller busy my ass, play the game or I'll scum read you this instant. Also given the time I don't think you'd do much before the EOD.
@Hammock you are new, good, even if you want to keep your vote based on your early suspicions, cool, keep it, but you still need to read the thread and help the town to catch scums, if you are not a scum yourself.
@osieorb18 i appreciate the fact you Isoed red and kept your vote and sus on her intact. But I still get this light vibe that you Isoed only her cause I asked for a proper reasoning behind your vote on her and your scum reading on her. Even if you put few names here and there you did not say much of a reasoning for your reads on them, you connected most of them with red, this Is somewhat similar to PK.

@Elmage G Ace he is Elmage, he sleeps in D1 but you'll like him the coming phases.

@Dragomir subbing out?

@Ansatsuken you are striking me the most. Are you alright? This is not how you play as a town. I'm sorry the day phase would be over in more or less 6 hours but where is your reads!?!! You questioned and replied to the questions for you. Where's the scum Hunter Ansa? You are making me worry now.
and @Rej umm hi! I can't read you and @Thestatusquo i liked your effort but unless you reply to the questions I asked you ain't getting in to my green list.

@Michelle I would want to look at your reads apart from Aadono.
 

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Can I say something? @SoulKiller busy my ass, play the game or I'll scum read you this instant. Also given the time I don't think you'd do much before the EOD.
@Hammock you are new, good, even if you want to keep your vote based on your early suspicions, cool, keep it, but you still need to read the thread and help the town to catch scums, if you are not a scum yourself.
@osieorb18 i appreciate the fact you Isoed red and kept your vote and sus on her intact. But I still get this light vibe that you Isoed only her cause I asked for a proper reasoning behind your vote on her and your scum reading on her. Even if you put few names here and there you did not say much of a reasoning for your reads on them, you connected most of them with red, this Is somewhat similar to PK.

@Elmage G Ace he is Elmage, he sleeps in D1 but you'll like him the coming phases.

@Dragomir subbing out?

@Ansatsuken you are striking me the most. Are you alright? This is not how you play as a town. I'm sorry the day phase would be over in more or less 6 hours but where is your reads!?!! You questioned and replied to the questions for you. Where's the scum Hunter Ansa? You are making me worry now.
and @Rej umm hi! I can't read you and @Thestatusquo i liked your effort but unless you reply to the questions I asked you ain't getting in to my green list.

@Michelle I would want to look at your reads apart from Aadono.
Real scum hunting usually start in 2DP. I have changed my approach for 1DP.
 
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