[Game] KINGDOM [ 킹덤 ] MAFIA GAME #25

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I expected more from them as town squad - neutral
Michelle
Ansatsuken
SoulKiller


The sleeping squad - can't make reads except for my already given reads on aadono

Elmage G Ace
Hammock
Rej
Dragomir
aa-dono

Likes there effort - townlean
TSQ
Red

Scummy -
Pk
Osie
Aadono

Scum lean
Tiger.
 

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I expected more from them as town squad - neutral
Michelle
Ansatsuken
SoulKiller


The sleeping squad - can't make reads except for my already given reads on aadono

Elmage G Ace
Hammock
Rej
Dragomir
aa-dono

Likes there effort - townlean
TSQ
Red

Scummy -
Pk
Osie
Aadono

Scum lean
Tiger.
I seriously don't know how those two name became red. Phone bug maybe.
 

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I'm honestly not sure what to make of the game this far, I didn't like the Poison v Michelle interaction no point to it tbh, however, based on that I'm not sure either one of them is scummy right now, Poison is in a difficult situation in the VC and as such is trying to prove she's town in her play, which is nice, doesn't means she's town, but at least that's the right approach

TSQ is a town lean for me, at least for now

Just_Red is being cautious, not sure what to make of that, but then it's DP1

PK does seem scummy, but that's his general playstyle. At least based on the few games I played with him, I never seen him going hard, pressuring a player or being overly investigative. Could be wrong to though

I have to get to work now (Night work) so I might go inactive, if anyone has a question for me, I'll answer as soon as I can

I'm going to read the thread again to decide who gets my vote this DP if I still have time

To those who are new here, or who don't know me, I'm elmage xD I get more active as the game progresses, but can switch from passive to active any time, I'm a web developer irl, so naturally I lean towards logical conclusions.

Let the hunt begin!
 

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Ok so returning back these are the readings I get from these guys, also sorry for being that inactive i was sleeping and rereading the materials to determine what i can get out of the situation right now
Town leans for me so far :
SoulKiller
TSQ
Michelle
Scum leans :
Poison
Others I really don't know for sure, but I'll keep on rereading to make sure of where i would want to stand on the readings.
 
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I'm honestly not sure what to make of the game this far, I didn't like the Poison v Michelle interaction no point to it tbh, however, based on that I'm not sure either one of them is scummy right now, Poison is in a difficult situation in the VC and as such is trying to prove she's town in her play, which is nice, doesn't means she's town, but at least that's the right approach

TSQ is a town lean for me, at least for now

Just_Red is being cautious, not sure what to make of that, but then it's DP1

PK does seem scummy, but that's his general playstyle. At least based on the few games I played with him, I never seen him going hard, pressuring a player or being overly investigative. Could be wrong to though

I have to get to work now (Night work) so I might go inactive, if anyone has a question for me, I'll answer as soon as I can

I'm going to read the thread again to decide who gets my vote this DP if I still have time

To those who are new here, or who don't know me, I'm elmage xD I get more active as the game progresses, but can switch from passive to active any time, I'm a web developer irl, so naturally I lean towards logical conclusions.

Let the hunt begin!
No, You are spot on about me.
No one seems to get that I still play based on the turbo days where all these thorough investigations aren't needed.
 
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Ok I was fine with your whole interpretation, although the whole talk itself is rather dumb, until this point. You're angling to vote me here / reach for a scum lean out of your ass.
Not having a good reason to vote you yet but definitely got a feeling of bad vibes coming from you.

If you want to vote me, you gotta have a solid reason to do so. I always focus on trying to see where the pushes come from. I misinterpreted her wording as having an actual reason for voting me, if she just said it was gut, I probably would've overlooked it.
For me if I want to vote someone who I think is scum I will vote them no matter how solid or not the reasoning. For scum every reasoning to vote them always being seen as not a solid proof/reasoning so I have built a habit of ignoring it unless they can prove me wrong from their game play and not from their game behavior.

I always focus on trying to see where the pushes come from
This is call as game behavior and not game play so its not enough to be a proof that you're not a scum from knowing your game behavior.

I always prioritize sorting votes on me and that's not a bad thing. I don't deal well with pressure on me as either alignment, so I want to nullify it / sort it before it turns into ugly tunnels. While I'm tunneled, I can't think straight and it's just noise.
Scum sure afraid people tunneling them more than townie. But the ugly noise you made when you're town really helping people to see your town alignment. Because the noise sounds sincere and not a faking.

I got a feel for her push afterwards which is why I ignored her. The shit you're spouting never happened, so why are you pulling out innuendos all off a sudden? What posts gave you the feeling "I should keep on pushing"? Because I remember brushing it off with exactly "People should really check my tutorial" as a shit talk to Red's comments on me, at which point I was considering her towniness.
Post number 88.
 
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Empty thoughts. What gave you a feeling that there was something to begin with?
I said I want to look into the issue between Michelle and Poison. How should I know if there something worth to look at if I'm not investigate them lol

I felt as though it was a silly push overall, I briefly skimmed it and got nothing out of it.
And yet you voted for poison(post#338)
 

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{Red, PK, SK}
{osieorb18}

{Hammock}

{aa-dono}

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{Dragomir, Elmage}
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{Rej} - maybe up more? I need to prod his thoughts more, I got the short end of the stick when I assumed he was town in a game he was scumming in

{Michelle, Ansatsuken}

{Poison, Tiger}
So I'm partnering with Michelle is not something that only thought by Poison, you also got similar thought.

My thoughts on Michelle, she's just like herself from previous game's 1DP. Not really Scummy and not really townie. She's direction less, less controlling the situation, and considerate.
 

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So I didn't give a reason for my vote to Poison just to see the reactions.

Anyway the reason for me voting for Poison is simply gut feeling.
She's fooling around but will make game focused posts every and now then.

Kinda the way I was playing like last game.
Now it could be co of lack of interest as it was for me BUT I am gonna stick with and see how it goes.
Ok I understand. A gut feeling vote.
 

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You remember how I was playing last game right when i was scum?
On the defensive. Very passive aggressive.
That's the kind of play style I am pickin up from Poison and I am not liking the feeling of it.

@Michelle

You can read this too I guess.
So you're still unmoved after all the reply Poison gave to you? Can't catch any townie vibes from any of her reply??
 

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You still feel like you're forced to make these posts Rej. Are you held at gunpoint when making these?

How'd you take the leap to dono - Red. Also, can you elaborate on when you hit the pivotal point for scum reading Red? If I remember correctly, you had a shot at interacting with Red's push on me, but you didn't.

Elaborate?
no, cuz tbh I dont care, I dont try to put crazy effort into day one lol
@Rej, give your g2h lean on me right now.
why are you asking this? are you looking for a proof here? I was leaning town until you brought up this questionable demand lmao
Don't ask me about what I feel about rej anymore. After last game, only a bullet in his head and confirmation from the host will allow me to give you an opinion about the guy. I can't even trust my own judgement when it comes to the guy.
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anyway I think my vote on Red seems fair for now, she backed up now in hope for some other wagons be formed and me being discreditted. lock Red scum and throw they key into the ocean, hope it gets eaten by a huge kraken

good night for now fam
 
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Nah, you're misinterpreting it. I've already elaborated on it not being a feeling of what a scum would do, I was more rather confused than having a hint of "that's a scum right there", which is why I tried to get a sense for her push and what it meant, why the vote occurred at that point and not earlier, etc...It wasn't anything too damning on it's own, and after she placed the vote and made the whole thing about "You pushed your scummy agenda" blah blah when I was merely trying to get a feel for her genuineness in the push was more like her town talk, I don't think scum push that angle on me and not that early.
Yeah, I changed my mind on it.
 

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This person is either not at all interested in the game or is too uncomfortable as a wolf and too cautious.

Too passive. Too cautious. Scummy. If she is honestly not interested in the game I'm expecting a sub out soon if not, here's one scum.
Wait wait wait. Passive is just the way I sound in all my games. I am definitely interested in the game.

As for being wolf or too cautious, that's not the case.

I am generally picky about my choice of words, that's more a personality so it might come off as cautious. I'm not uncomfortable if I roll as any alignment (except PR coz I hate the responsibility).
 
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Ansatsuken for townish observation of Poison in #284.
Ehh but then he proceeded to talk about whether something is meta or not. Pointless conversation imo. It was clear that Poison and Michelle were arguing over definition.
I don't think this question comes from town (#304). It feels weak and busy, that's it.

I like the way Poison is handling the terminology argument. She sounds genuinely frustrated over it.
Also, loving the pressure on Ansatsuken.

Honestly don't think #324 was that aggressive, but Michelle seems to think so...
@Michelle Is Rej usually a calm person?

Also Michelle vote on me is pretty ehhh?? She was null reading me a moment ago, and I didn't post much after (or at all) and she called it wolfing?

Tigerr is also suspicious in the sense for indirectly supporting that kind of easy vote, while not being committed to calling someone scum directly.
 
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