[Game] KINGDOM [ 킹덤 ] MAFIA GAME #25

[Thestatusquo]

Here it almost seems like TSQ wasn't paying attention to what Red was saying, she literally stated why, but he kept the narrative that Red scum read him and then voted, mind you this is DP one, so her vote was more or less RVS

"I want to vote you" = a gut ping that someone is scum

you don't say "I want to vote you" to a person that you town read

so I wanted to see what the reasoning was. after she said it was an overall gut feeling, I cut it, and moved on. If I would've twisted it to fit the narrative, I would've followed it up by a vote.

 

[Thestatusquo]

I'm going offline soon, I have to get some shut eye so I can work at night, I might be back before Eod. I want to clarify the issue I have with TSQ, Because it seems I'm still not well understood

DP1



I voted him here because I noticed this issue, he misinterpreted both Poison and Red's post, although Red's was more obvious


Here I posted my concern with Rej. At this point my Sus was TSQ and Rej



I voted, and Michelle basically said No, I wasn't trying to form a wagon here, as you can see above I mentioned him, and I waited an hour before I went to work

Michelle was okay with it after I explained why I voted him



This is me giving my thoughts on Red, implying I don't think she's scum. Remember this




I'll follow up shortly with TSQs baseless accusations

This has nothing to do with PK, which is the crux of my case and how you handled him.

 

[Thestatusquo]

I do like these two posts, he mentioned here that one should not overly rely on meta, but he proceeds to break his own rule, thereby contradicting himself

Ok, what's scum about it?

 

[Elmage G Ace]

This has nothing to do with PK, which is the crux of my case and how you handled him.

Relax, I broke the post in three so it won't be too long

 

[Elmage G Ace]

So the other two are coming

 

[Thestatusquo]

This was my thoughts on PKs play, I basically implied that he's not necessarily scum from his play, even though it SEEMS scummy, I never scum read PK

Ok, this is the point where I admit I kind of misunderstood it. I interpreted it as you having a scum read on PK that you later hedged on. My point was that you still didn't feel the need to interact with him one way or the other at EoD1 in order to sort his alignment, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAD SOMETHING, EVEN VERY LITTLE, TO SCUM READ HIM, which from my PoV is worth exploring for a town, because it's a null read.

From my PoV, you just DIDN'T CARE IF PK GOT LYNCHED OR NOT AND WHAT ALIGNMENT HE WAS GOING TO FLIP. You didn't care to sort him, even though you had him null and he was top wagon.

 

[osieorb18]

@Thestatusquo I feel like you've admitted from the start of DP2 that you're going into Elmage's posts hard tunneled on him! You're essentially looking to scumread him and have implied that you're a bit triggered by his responses to you! Your tunnel doesn't feel entirely objective!

I'm even reading through Elmage, and both in depth and on a surface level, it's hard for me to place him below a townlean!

 

[Thestatusquo]

TSQ had Rej on his radar, yes, but he never built a case, judging from his DP1 he made more cases against Poison and Tiger, but suddenly decided to vote Rej at EOD, a player who wasn't online, and can't defend himself

I have already explained this. Yes, I never made a case, because my issue wasn't a hard on scum read with him, I NEVER HAD A CASE. I was scum reading him based on his play style more than his actual posts and I found it a better lynch than PK, that's all.

I believe I even clarified this before pushing you, right here :

TSQ had Rej on his radar, yes, but he never built a case, judging from his DP1 he made more cases against Poison and Tiger, but suddenly decided to vote Rej at EOD, a player who wasn't online, and can't defend himself

I have already explained this. Yes, I never made a case, because my issue wasn't a hard on scum read with him, I NEVER HAD A CASE. I wa

I mean Rej was more of a "feels weird" in the sense that his style was different, but Elmage looks a lot more like a wolf than Rej right now

I'm really not that interested in pursuing Rej, but then again I never really am

I guess it's mostly "he's an easy catch" so I don't really care about him unless I see something extraordinarily scummy

 

[Thestatusquo]

some parts were repeated off ctrl + v but you get the point

 

[Thestatusquo]

He thought... Meanwhile, she stated clearly why she voted him

That's the entire point of my tunnel on her : SHE DIDN'T CLEARLY STATE IT.

ONCE SHE DID, I BACKED OFF.

You're reaching for straws mate.

 

[Thestatusquo]

First of all, cap locks! Really? Anyways, I don't think I need to repeat what I've been saying here

Yes you do lol, you had PK as null with "scummy vibes" although blah blah and you didn't care to sort him when he was top wagon

 

[Thestatusquo]

Now he says he forgets stuff, I mean you should try to verify your reads, did you ISO me? How will you forget a scenario that is instrumental to your weak basis for voting me?

Not AI for me.

Proceeds to make useless posts instead of going to investigate and look for more proof


You're either a mafia, or perhaps you have trouble with English (no offense) you're also unreasonable, I'm on my phone right now, else I'd have posted more instances.

Not AI for me.

That's pretty much it. Anything else you'd like me to clarify on?

 

[Thestatusquo]

Also, I did state on TB that the ISO function on Xenforo is absolute garbage and that I never use it

which is why I am almost never doing ISOs

so when I ask you to rehash your thoughts in the live interaction with me, it's not because i have nothing else better to do

it's because the ISOing function here is literal torment

 

[Thestatusquo]

I'm ngl I'm here for more live interactions, if there's nothing for me to address I'll mull over some things and come back at EoD

 

[Michelle]

I suppose I figured as much! That seems kinda shallow, but I'm willing to forgive you, I suppose! How do you feel about PK's bad faith posting?! I may like your vote on Rej, but do you feel that it's a more useful lynch than other scumreads?!

I don't understand how would PK flip his read on me after i voted my main scum read Let's say I am wrong but you can't scum read an idiot who spent all day and posted oppinions about the game for one single vote on Rej after that idot said all day that Rej is scum.
So idk.. i found him villager for a reason during the day, more precise for the post he made between the end of votes day 1 and the reveal of no lynch. I think scum would use other words because would know Rej's AI

 

[Thestatusquo]

Michelle, why's Elmage town?

 

[Michelle]

the ISO function on Xenforo is absolute garbage

the Iso can be useful if it can show more than one line from the posts and all depends of the forum settings.

 

[osieorb18]

Welp we are all over the place tbh.

My scum reads for now are -

Osie - hasn't really contributed much. Check the thread yourselves and see if he is even pressuring anyone. Seems to be comfortable taking a back seat. Candidate for today's lynch

Aadono - Kinda passive but still more contributing than Osie. Not too sure.

SK - I don't see that drive from tbh. Could be because he is busy so he gets a pass from for this phase as I do wanna give the guy a chance. Thesis are no jokes.

And finally
Poison - I just don't buy all that pressuring other people, her reasoning is flawed on many occasions ( mostly with me). Would be okay with me if we lynched her.

If you wanna defend yourself or if anyone else wants to make a case for them, do say.

Although with the way things are I think either TSQ or Just Red are gonna be biting the bullet.
Very hard to decide since I town read both of them. Tough spot we are in.

So this post really scumpings me, especially in context with the effort to colour me as one of the most likely and preferable lynches!

First off, there's the statement that I'm not putting pressure on anyone! This completely ignores my push on Red, as well as any questioning of others!

Second, there's comparing Aa-dono favourably to me! Even just on a basic post number level, this is insane! I have about three times as many posts as Aa-dono, and my average post is higher content than hers!

The read on SK looks okay!

Third, there's the read on Poison! To go from pushing me for not pressuring people to in the same post pushing Poison for pressuring people a lot feels like a huge disconnect that is not particularly townie!

Fourth, there's the point that TSQ or Red are the likely lynches, and PK's read is... "townread both of them!" Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, PK has not made ANY significantly positive comment on either of them all game prior to this point!

For one of the trolliest players in the thread, who intentionally played anti-town, wasting town's time for a day phase, and didn't die to nightkill after being lynchproof, to turn around and make contradicting reads on people based on flimsy, minimal, bad-faith reasoning?! This is not acceptable!

PK can comfortably drop back down to my scumreads now!

I'd be particularly happy to lynch Just_Red, PK, or Rej, with a side of Hammock!

 

[Thestatusquo]

the Iso can be useful if it can show more than one line from the posts and all depends of the forum settings.

yeah this

i don't remember doing much ISOing in here any way

i probably never multi-quoted something in the past unless the first lines where reminiscent of the posts I was scum reading

turns out my memory and patience is running thin during this era of isolation

 

[Michelle]

Michelle, why's Elmage town?

he is too stubborn to be scum i think.
i forgot a little his scum game but i don't remember him to be so strong.

Btw.. i forgot about Elmage scum play in short time. how come Tigerr remembers PKs play after one year and half?

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@Tigerrr in the woods how was my play back then?