[Game] KINGDOM [ 킹덤 ] MAFIA GAME #25

[Michelle]

It was 5 Years ago? i really dont think i would remember anything from DN games, if i didnt remember much about RP i was literally 13 >_> .

nice
You didn't play since then?

 

[Hammock]

nice
You didn't play since then?

Yes.
Also im rereading the thread, mention me during that time if anyone wants to me to reply quickly.

 

[Tigerrr in the woods]

Tiger, playing several games with TSQ, i know his vote changes are not AI.

I am not looking into previous play style Michelle.
I don't know this person's style and it looks like BLUFFING to me. Bluffing and turning town against town at every turn.
Also

Going to trust TSQs analysis and support his vote

Vote lynch Elmage G Ace

It's really interesting how trusting you are of TSQ

@-PK- vote Rej man. If you're town you always gotta self-pres no matter what.

Oof lynch Rej guys

YEs everyone vote REJ in the last minutes of the DP1 cause it's the best thing for everyone.
Lets all of us bandwagon so we can't tell each other apart.

As you can see Michelle it's not just the voting 4 people in one day but also the whole obvious wagon he creates in our faces and the fact that he turns us against eachother. He questions everyone about everyone else.
Like hei Hammock what you think of Elmage G Ace: don;t you think he is scum cause he stumbled in the door when he entered?
XD

i am thinking, maybe too much. someone said this already
But I won't judge TSQ based on a joke posted at Sod. I need to reread and i will do this in the morning.
Also when did you have the impression i don't think carefully?

You think carefully I am sorry, what I am trying to say is: just cause I don't know how TSQ plays and cause TSQ played town like this before doesn't mean my argument is null.
it's classic SCUM behavior in my opinion -.-
and the fact that he tried to get people to bite Elmage topped it.

 

[Hammock]

As for the Night Phase kill.
I'd say we townies did not suffer a big blow. Luckily Drago was an inactive player and was vanilla.
Could have been worse.
Now the issue is to figure out why would the scum target an inactive guy?
Kinda counterproductive if they wanna end the game early. Going after the actives and more influential people would make more sense.

What are everyone else's thoughts?

I agree with the bolded points in the quote, and I think Drago being a vanilla townie, does make it that we are still in the situation of Dp1, where all the towns were scattered with lynches and stuck on figuring out who the real scum was while they were dividing us.
But, i would keep my vote unchanged for now, I'm still reading on.

 

[Hammock]

Town's getting no where. We all are scattered basically. TSQ and Elmage voting each other ain't a good sight to look at tbh.

I agree with this tbh

@Hammock
You might have committed crimes against Skyrim and her people.
What say you in your defense?

Explain the crime for me first and i want to know what im being charged with.

 

[Hammock]

After, rereading pk's posts he does have a scummy lean but for town's sake of the votes not being spread and us being litreally scattered like poison said, im going to take my vote and i havent come to conclusions of who to lynch yet rn so ill come back in the morning and decide if i get enough readings to post a vote.

UNVOTE

 

[Michelle]

It's really interesting how trusting you are of TSQ

I first played with him in june last year., and played together many games since.
it's a normal trust for a player I know pretty well

 

[Elmage G Ace]

Going to trust TSQs analysis and support his vote

Vote lynch Elmage G Ace

It's funny how you seem to trust TSQ, almost without even considering that he may be scum, when I first voted TSQ in DP one, your reply was 'No' basically, when I was just trying to pressure him. Did you even read our interactions? I basically answered all his questions, but I don't know if there's a language barrier there, I started ignoring him because I can't keep repeating myself, but you're trusting his 'Analysis' what analysis? He just seems to be looking for something that is non existent. Re read the interactions if you need to please, don't disappoint me, we've also been playing this game a while now

 

[Elmage G Ace]

Just because you want, or think someone is scum doesn't mean the person is scum, towns usually show a degree of uncertainty when playing. Not him though

 

[SoulKiller]

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[Elmage G Ace]

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You late bro. That's unlike you. Busy?

 

[SoulKiller]

First of all, i noticed i got pinged for not making it toward the end of DP1 or my inactivity, there is multiple reasons to that and ill keep it short since it is not relevant to the game. Time zone difference, and i was busy (still am) writing my thesis, it's done but it's in the editing process now and need to submit the drafts to my committee this monday. Hence, the inactivity in my part. But anyways wanted to get this out of the way.

 

[SoulKiller]

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Alright, let's get this party going.

The kill on Drago is interesting, it's not necessarily bad since it reveals no information to anyone, we are literally at the same point we left DP1. Which might be mafia intentions, it's funny tho since I can definitely see people using this to incriminate me since i was the only one who had a vote on the guy last DP and I think i saw some posts of this while i was skimming. But i will get into them when i probably catch up to DP2.

End of DP1 was quite interesting, ya see in page 29, PK had the lead with 4 votes and Just_Red had 2 votes. Now, jump forward to page 31 and Rej suddenly has 3 votes, it's quite interesting to see the pattern of how this happened. TSQ is being all over the place again, and quite frankly i am not liking it, he changed his vote from rej to tiger to rej again. What's more interesting tho is that Both Michelle and PK switched their vote to rej. Pk went from ansa and the placed his vote to rej. All, this happened in a matter of 2 pages from 29 to 31. What do I make of this? whelp there is couple of situations at hand, either all those 3 are mafia (TSQ, PK, and Michelle) and are cooperating together (highly unlikely unless they are being very bold) . Scum is among them 2 out of 1 or even 1 out of 3.

The more I look at it the more suspicious it gets, something definitely fishy went down during the last couple of pages, i skimmed through DP2 real quickly and i noticed similar pattern, TSQ voted for elmage and michelle followed. I am not sure what is going on, my memory might be blurry but is michelle the type of scum who sheeps people?

PK is not cleared by any means btw, last game mafia had lynch immunity and personally speaking, granting mafia lynch immunity is something i do not really like. Lynching is townies only effective method against scum. Stripping that away is just not fun tbh. But unfortunately i saw it last game for scum so it might very well be the case here as well. There is a chance he might be a townie who has such ability as well, not taking that possibility away.

Time to read DP2 probably and catch up.

 

[SoulKiller]

I don't have much of a read on Hammock tbh but you jumping on this bandwagon on me seems awfully scummy tbh.
You are quite analytical. I saw that last game and took time with your reasoning. Unusual for you to fall for such obvious moves.

I like how you are more on edge now that you don't have your free scapegoat card.

I was ready to make the lynch fail since I was in lead just to prove a point that I was right.
Bdiut then @Thestatusquo made a post.
That townies always self pres no matter what and if I was town I would vote for Rej.

That made sense to me since my lynch immunity would have come in handy in the future and wouldn't have been used now and just in case Rej was a scum.
It would have been a win-win.

I did that so you all could rise above this fixation on me but it doesn't seem to have worked,,

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If ya really wanted to save your lynch immunity for later, a better target would be moving your vote to Just_Red. You would of definitely got a lynch there and saved your precious lynch immunity. But that did not happen now did it? people switched their votes to a person who was completely out of the danger of getting lynched equation. Which is rej and can't believe i am saying this but this by itself could be a hint for me to town clear rej >_>

What do you think of Rej after day 1?

I don't really understand where this is coming from. Rej did not post anything so far, so what will exactly change with his thoughts regarding the guy?

 

[osieorb18]

TSQ is townie AF!
Michelle and poison chan continue to look townie!

Elmage's posts look bad but might be irritated/lurky/wrong townie!
Tiger's posts continue to look scummy but might be able to be sorted later!

Just_Red looked scummy all day yesterday and comes in looking even scummier!

Vote Lynch: Just_Red

We should have done this during the previous Day!

 

[SoulKiller]

These are my theories about him. I'll now look at others without removing an inch of Scum read from him.

"without removing an inch of scum read from him" that made me crack up rofl.

Anyways, the way PK has played is not the one of the scum mentality that has a bulletproof and more of a town one.

Man meme'd with GIFs the whole game and barely contributed, laughed at town, that's never a mafia does when he knows he's going to get pushed for surviving

Get Elmage for not having any town progression and hedging on every single one of his reads and not caring for top wagons at all, especially when one of them is at lynch point.

I am sorry what? this is just speculation from your part. Why wouldn't he meme with gifs the whole game? he had lynch immunity. Nothing could touch him, regardless of his alignment being mafia or townie i can see PK doing that shit from either alignment.

 

[SoulKiller]

I'm like never moving my vote off Elmage today and if people aren't voting for him today you all are committing a cardinal sin of letting outed wolves survive so they snowball into an easy town read

Elmage is never town

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Those are some bold accusation and if he is? then what? are ya willing to put your life in the line for this?

1) Dafuq is Town JOAT?
While we are at this @Michelle whats wifom-y?


2) That's exactly what I SAID in my first post. Why would scum kill Drago? A person with no hold in the game. Did he even make 5 posts? It's a rather silly move.

Do you think the chaotic person I am would want my team to go for such a tame kill? You are making me laugh.
If my scum team was letting me chat shit all of previous day phase then they would have also let me influence the night phase and honestly if I wanted more chaos I would have killed you in the night phase.
Then poor PK would have no way escaping this lynch.

Alright PK, this entire post screams WIFOM and does not help your case at all. Explaining a situation that fits your own narrative. All of this could very well be bunch of BS.

 

[Just_Red]

TSQ is townie AF!
Michelle and poison chan continue to look townie!

Elmage's posts look bad but might be irritated/lurky/wrong townie!
Tiger's posts continue to look scummy but might be able to be sorted later!

Just_Red looked scummy all day yesterday and comes in looking even scummier!

Vote Lynch: Just_Red

We should have done this during the previous Day!

full of yourself are you?

Define scummy in this context.

 

[SoulKiller]

Okay before anything else, @Ansatsuken is likely to be scum. I'll bet a 85% - 90% chances on that. I'll get to that but I missed the last two pages imma read those

I can definitely see Ansa being scum in this game, he is being passive as **** and not getting townie vibe from him at all tbh

LMAO.

Why would mafia kill an inactive!??

Simple. These fools are cocky in their ability to win.

So you are saying ya are little bit too cocky with your own ability to win this game?

I have a theory that SK is mafia.

In past meta where I was scum with him, he chose to kill off an inactive instead of a strong townie position.

My point, he probably could be mafia. Just based on that alone. Of course its just a thoery.

A game....

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I knew something of this sort would come up. Ya see i can make my own theories as well, since you were my partner in crime that game. Ya are new, ya learn, and ya could very well learned from that game and is now using what ya learned from the past and implying it this game. Of course, it's just a theory right? right Red?

 

[SoulKiller]

But even though Drago was inactive, the other members who played with Drago before Could clearly see him as a threat later on and chose him instead.

Damn, i guess you can make good posts every once in a while.