[Game] KINGDOM [ 킹덤 ] MAFIA GAME #25

[Thestatusquo]

Still a lot scummy mate.

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[Thestatusquo]

This is more or less a pressure vote. Not really a RVS for me. As for intention behind the vote I couldn't sense a move that being motivated by desire to shading/framing Michelle. Honestly scum will attack a slip/suspicious play from town and rarely attacking player's Meta.

This feels like quite the leap of faith. I do the meta accusations as scum all the time. I am a weak wolf, so is Poison (sorry, it is what it is though ) and the meta angle is the easiest thing to fake in order to feign solving and gain credit.

As a result you're town reading her for something as silly as Poison mentioning that Michelle wasn't here, after 10 minutes or so after she posted. What do you find so hard about scum!Poison making that post?

 

[Thestatusquo]

Hello everyone, sorry for the super late appearance. Gonna catch up with the spam xD

For scum this all feels like spam, because you already have the game solved

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[Rej]

Why was she scum to you?

because of what I stated earlier, in summary she was all over the place after her entrance
dunno if that's her meta or whatever

 

[Rej]

@Michelle I apologize for using the f word
so you quite wuickly pulled back your vote, why so trigger happy this game? don't tell me again I am giving you paranoia lmao

 

[Thestatusquo]

All I need to do is get a big fat hard covered terminology book and hit my head with it.

I successfully f*ck up the terms every time, every where, but even though people kept telling me about, I meant it as a no serious reason and hence me calling it RVS.

Why aren't you asking any questions? Whenever you're posting you are defending yourself, I associate that with scum!you more.

 

[Thestatusquo]

I'll unvote and vote another player when I get to see pretty scummy posts from people. I might look dumb but keeping a vote on the player after all that controversies and everything would not be done even by a stupid person
And besides I have stated I am neutral on her so it's very likely to shift my vote. I'm just waiting to get the peace from explaining the same thing over and over again and waiting when people will actually stop winning over a single terminology and will try to catch scum!

Why not just hunt for another vote?

 

[Thestatusquo]

I feel like Tiger's catchup on page 16 is also pretty bad in the sense that he finds it hard to find anything to comment on / probe. Pretty safe and surface level catchup. It's like he didn't retain anything from 10 whole pages.

 

[Thestatusquo]

I know what you mean, I was refering to the two first lines where you said the interaction is scary and that your two townreads are TSQ and Michelle
I tried to dig myself into Poison, if she is scummy, doesn't mean she is scum actually, she could just be a town with bad early game. That's why I pushed her and pointed out her flaws.
Except that I had the same thoughts as you while reading that page and the previous one.


read my fucking posts, I already hinted to it, Michelle and ted are townreads, but will give more later on

Vote lynch @Just_Red

jus get her lynched already and get her scum partner @aa-dono into the lynch pool


I am at page 13 will catch up more, I am multitabbing and need to catch up in another game too

You still feel like you're forced to make these posts Rej. Are you held at gunpoint when making these?

How'd you take the leap to dono - Red. Also, can you elaborate on when you hit the pivotal point for scum reading Red? If I remember correctly, you had a shot at interacting with Red's push on me, but you didn't.

Elaborate?

 

[Thestatusquo]

Man this is going to be a hard god damn game, I only have like 4 town reads.

Red, PK, SK, what are your thoughts on Tiger / Michelle / Rej / Poison?

I feel as though 2 scum at minimum are in there.

 

[Thestatusquo]

Tiger / Michelle / Rej / Poison / Ansatsuken as well actually

Maybe 2 scum at least in there?

Leaning Poison and Tiger, I have sinking feelings for Ansatsuken's pushes as well as Michelle's posts aren't really reflective of her "lock town" game. Rej is probably the one I'm wrong on in there, but I have no clue on others.

 

[Thestatusquo]

{Red, PK, SK}
{osieorb18}

{Hammock}

{aa-dono}

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{Dragomir, Elmage}
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{Rej} - maybe up more? I need to prod his thoughts more, I got the short end of the stick when I assumed he was town in a game he was scumming in

{Michelle, Ansatsuken}

{Poison, Tiger}

 

[Thestatusquo]

So my issue with Tiger is that his catchups are safe and it's almost like he can't focus on imitating a townie thought process. Reads as the wolf that's left out of the loop and didn't get to insert himself as a town lean by tone at SoD, if that makes sense. I can't sense where he's going / what he finds scummy and not, I don't sense a genuine town thought process, it feels as if he already has everyone's alignments. The margin of error that's not my fault in this read is if he's a lot more better at scum than town and he has some decent experience, which I don't know.

Michelle has been making...I don't know, I guess...Easy points for someone that has started using the method that she's using? Some examples :

Not having big reads but asking for solid town reads from others

Vote lynch: Rej

Her engagement with Poison wasn't really heading anywhere much, it was more a "is she playing seriously or not?" rather than an actual lead that town!her would chase in order to catch a scum. Tone-wise she'd probably get the town slot but I pay more stock in mentality anyway.

Poison is trying to feign her genuineness imo. Nothing that she's said or done is reflective of her goofy town self that has no idea what is going on. She doesn't seem to be that interested in people's alignments. I hate using this word but the best that would fit her reactions would be "fakeness" towards the pushes on her. I think Poison was trying to play the "I have high ground" point and holding her nose up, feigning arrogance : "Do you think 3 votes would create pressure on me this early? Oh you, dear" and shit like that.

If she felt as if she was not attacked genuinely by people, she would've raged. That combined with her post to SK in which she goes "I don't think SK voted me for fluff" is almost projecting the self-consciousness of a scum that KNOWS THEY'VE DONE SOMETHING WRONG / SCUM MOTIVATED. As town, 100% she throws a fit and calls everyone idiots for dragging this on, if she really believed it was "unimportant". She's not world building around her to see who's the scum pushing her and who the town is that's pushing her wrongly. She just defaults to defending herself and that's it, and that's always a scum angle. No world building = wolf.

Ansatsuken had several moments where he looked like he was pulling the Poltergeist out his ass on something non-existent and it felt as though he was reaching hard to justify a scum lean on me, but he just couldn't do it.

The only thing holding me back from placing him on the Tiger / Poison tier is that he wasn't necessarily...Making a mountain out of a mole hill with it, but the suspicion was evenly rounded in his other pushes as well. But it still tingles my scumdar.

 

[-PK-]

I may or may not already conclude that you're town for making that comment, because you didn't have any balls last game against me wolf cub

Honestly like I didn't even have that bad of a game, I imploded town and I still got lynched. I had to differentiate scum and town that decided to throw the game, I got 3 scum in my PoE and 2 slots that were barely talking in PoE because they weren't town, and that was all on Day 1.

I don't get the hate for that game, I still did great, town threw the game honestly /shrug

3 scum were on my wagon, that's 3/4 of the scum team. If I was so easy to lynch, why were you all on my wagon

I outed every scum on my wagon and we still lost lol

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Tbh you were the only thing keeping me interested in that game.
It just wasn't the same after we got you lynched man.

 

[Thestatusquo]

Tbh you were the only thing keeping me interested in that game.
It just wasn't the same after we got you lynched man.

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[Thestatusquo]

@Michelle the ultimate test to reveal your true colours. You gotta shield me from a potential wagon today I swear.

I'm eating the NK 9/10 times.

I won't be that active, if I find the time to post, I will. I really have plans and stuff to focus on.

 

[-PK-]

What for?

You remember how I was playing last game right when i was scum?
On the defensive. Very passive aggressive.
That's the kind of play style I am pickin up from Poison and I am not liking the feeling of it.

@Michelle

You can read this too I guess.

 

[Thestatusquo]

You remember how I was playing last game right when i was scum?
On the defensive. Very passive aggressive.
That's the kind of play style I am pickin up from Poison and I am not liking the feeling of it.

@Michelle

You can read this too I guess.

I mean it's not just defensiveness, but there's no world building around her to see if town pushes her or if scum is taking advantage of it.

Defensiveness in itself is not a scum tell at all. This is by far more reliable.

 

[Thestatusquo]

PK, give your thoughts in that post where I asked you about certain people?

 

[Thestatusquo]

@Rej, give your g2h lean on me right now.