[VS] Kimmimaro VS Neji

[Simbv]

Already tackled the Kaguya God Fist,Air Palm thing. But ehh

 

[KidGamer65]

Already tackled the Kaguya God Fist,Air Palm thing. But ehh

You guys really didn't. You are trying to say it's different when the two techs literally work the same way and they both utilize the Byakugan.

Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack (八十神空撃, Yasogami Kūgeki) is a Kekkei Mora taijutsu used by Kaguya, made possible by her mastery of chakra. She loads chakra into her palm, and then unleashes it as a barrage of countless fists. The fist attacks can also be used defensively, and when coupled with Kaguya's perfect dojutsu, it has the potential to become the strongest offensive ability. The Hyuga clan uses a similar vacuum palm attack, Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm, but there is a wide gulf in power between the two.

 

[neosmith500]

You guys really didn't. You are trying to say it's different when the two techs literally work the same way and they both utilize the Byakugan.

If ur saying the two the techs work the same seeing that both use Vacuum shells then are u now saying that like God palm , Air palm also loads Chakra into the palm alongside the compressed vacuum shell?

 

[KidGamer65]

If ur saying the two the techs work the same seeing that both use Vacuum shells then are u now saying that like God palm , Air palm also loads Chakra into the palm alongside the compressed vacuum shell?

What are you talking about? The databook for Vacuum wall palm posted in this thread over 7 pages ago stated that both techniques work by loading chakra into the palm, and then releasing compressed air. It's not like this matters or proves you guy's arguments anyway.

 

[neosmith500]

What are you talking about? The databook for Vacuum wall palm posted in this thread over 7 pages ago stated that both techniques work by loading chakra into the palm, and then releasing compressed air. It's not like this matters or proves you guy's arguments anyway.

Simply trying to clarify ur meaning here because at first u said Vacuum palm only shoots Air at the vitals and not any form of Chakra.

-But matching description of all Vacuum shell attacks employs a notion that Chakra is compressed into the vacuum shells and sent flying , just trying to clarify here.

 

[KidGamer65]

Simply trying to clarify ur meaning here because at first u said Vacuum palm only shoots Air at the vitals and not any form of Chakra.

-But matching description of all Vacuum shell attacks employs a notion that Chakra is compressed into the vacuum shells and sent flying , just trying to clarify here.

Either Vacuum Wall Palm and Vacuum Palm are different and only one of them doesn't use chakra or they both use chakra because the databook scan (again, posted earlier in this thread) says that wall palm loads chakra into the palms and then shoots air.

 

[neosmith500]

Either Vacuum Wall Palm and Vacuum Palm are different and only one of them doesn't use chakra or they both use chakra because the databook scan (again, posted earlier in this thread) says that wall palm loads chakra into the palms and then shoots air.

I never saw the DB on wall palm in this thread , but wat im trying to understand is are u saying the Chakra loaded into the Vacuum shell isn't propelled alongside the Air? because matching descriptions of the Vacuum techs would indicate that Chakra is sent forward along with the compressed vacuum shell with all of them.

 

[KidGamer65]

I never saw the DB on wall in this thread , but wat im trying to understand is are u saying the Chakra loaded into the Vacuum shell isn't propelled alongside the Air? because matching descriptions of the Vacuum techs would indicate that Chakra is sent forward along with the compressed vacuum shell..

Like I just said. Either Vacuum Wall Palm and Vacuum Palm work differently, or chakra is loaded to the palm for the former and shot out as air.

 

[neosmith500]

Like I just said. Either Vacuum Wall Palm and Vacuum Palm work differently, or chakra is loaded to the palm for the former and shot out as air.

Well logic would deduce that wall palm and vacuum palm work the same since two Hyuga can employ Wall palm by using Vacuum palm togther side by side.

-DB implies a notion that the compressed vacuum shell/Air is shot along with Chakra , through the enemies vitals as the vacuum shell is how the chakra is sent flying via high speed thrust.

 

[BLAZE]

I never saw the DB on wall palm in this thread

here.

Hakke Kuuhekishou (Eight Trigrams Vacuum Wall Palm)
Taijutsu, Kekkei Genkai
Volume 55, Page 132

Two people simultaneously release the vacuum shock wave of “Hakke Kuushou.” Normally, this is done with one hand, but Hiashi released it with both arms to deflect an attack from the Juubi.

 

[neosmith500]

here.

That really says ntn here lol but it basically shows that Wall palm and vacuum palm work exactly the same so if one shoots Chakra via compressed vacuum shell = high speed thrust , then other should also , and its the same with Kaguya's Vacuum attack which loads Chakra into a vacuum shell and shoots it out in the form of fists since it apparently utilizes the same Vacuum shell method as the others.

 

[KidGamer65]

Well logic would deduce that wall palm and vacuum palm work the same since two Hyuga can employ Wall palm by using Vacuum palm togther side by side.

-DB implies a notion that the compressed vacuum shell/Air is shot along with Chakra , through the enemies vitals as the vacuum shell is how the chakra is sent flying via high speed thrust.

The original answered it. If Wall Palm is two Vacuum Palms then they work the same.

 

[neosmith500]

The original answered it. If Wall Palm is two Vacuum Palms then they work the same.

Ok. So both compresses a Vacuum shell with Chakra loaded into it , which is then launched together , similar to Kaguya's vacuum tech then..

 

[BLAZE]

That really says ntn here lol but it basically shows that Wall palm and vacuum palm work exactly the same so if one shoots Chakra via compressed vacuum shell then other should also , and its the same with Kaguya's Vacuum attack which loads Chakra into a vacuum shell and shoots it in the form of fists..

yes and since the bold never did internal damage to RSM naruto so don't see why either vaccum palm or wall will do internal damage

But not gonna get in debate since i have papers going

Already tackled the Kaguya God Fist,Air Palm thing. But ehh

no i just left since i realised Kaguya loads her chakra in palm and your point was

Sorry the point I made was not clear. What I was trying to imply is that the Hyuga's Gentle fist have been known to attack the users chakra point and cause damage from emitting chakra through their palms and finger tips. Air Palm shoots a pressurized blast from their palms and is used in conjunction with Byakugan. While Kaguya's technique is also used in conjunction with Byakugan, the technique forms huge-chakra fist which punches down on the opponent. Hyuga's don't use their fist to cause internal damage, only their palms and finger tips. It is stated to be similar, IMO, because of the air pressure while also using Byakugan. Even though it is used with Byakugan, it doesn't explicitly state anywhere in the manga that it targets "Vital Spots" like Air Palm is stated to also.

also since i have papers lml

 

[Haizaki]

Neji wins this fight. Air Palm damaging the internals or not.

 

[neosmith500]

yes and since the bold never did internal damage to RSM naruto so don't see why either vaccum palm or wall will do internal damage

Yea but God palm doesn't shoot its Chakra through the vitals like Air palm but instead pummels the enemy externally with a barrage of fists , meaning the Chakra isn't being sent internally like Air palm.

Edit: I told u this before in the thread but u didn't reply , niklaus.

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[Simbv]

yes and since the bold never did internal damage to RSM naruto so don't see why either vaccum palm or wall will do internal damage

But not gonna get in debate since i have papers going


no i just left since i realised Kaguya loads her chakra in palm and your point was



also since i have papers lml

You obviously didn't read what i stated after this which was:

Than you see where this doesn't make sense. There is a huge difference, it isn't stated to target vital spots, only to be similar to air Palm. Similar can mean many things, if it was exactly the same but wayy more powerful then it would have said that. Those fist are huge, bigger than Naruto, if they targeted vital organs he would be dead or severely injured. Not come out still able to fight.My claim is air Palm hits vital spots, which is heavily back by the Databook, and God Palm doesn't, or else Naruto's cloak would have been drained and/or he would have died or been severely injured. I have nothing else to add.

To help make sure the attack lands? If you're trying to say it damages vital organs then you would be supporting my claim instead of denying it,as to why air Palm hits vital organs or else Neji wouldn't need Byakugan to use it.

But, it also doesn't state that God Palm targets or shuts down the chakra network(Jyuken does both) which is the biggest denominator. If it did, Naruto's cloak would have been drained from an attack of that magnitude and he would have most likely died considering the size of Kaguya's Chakra Fist. It wouldn't make since that he would get hit by an attack that is bigger than him and also hits vital organs and come out still able to fight and NOT be dead or severely injured.

 

[KidGamer65]

Ok. So both compresses a Vacuum shell with Chakra loaded into it , which is then launched together , similar to Kaguya's vacuum tech then..

Yes, meaning all this internal damage business is fanfiction.