[VS] Kimmimaro VS Neji

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Hobit? I like it too...
Yesterday i watch two towers, today return of the king :d tomorrow ill probably watch Hobit haha
Yea man , the hobbits isn't as great as the originals but i loved them and the Orcs in the originals were muchhhhhhhh better.


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... Seriously? Over a simple argument.

We might as well debate. I told VM'd beans that I was coming after the top debaters. If you're one of them I'd like to debate you.
So this is how Dr. Rat did it , JK proof tho im technically right but anyway PI i thought u ran from our debate here which is why i discussed u in the group since i saw u lurking without replying , but clearly u didn't run which i respect and to be clear i never sneak dissed u only shed light to how i proved u wrong in this thread which isn't exactly a lie..
 
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Yup lotr is way better than Hobit,but it is very good too nonetheless,there are lot superb scenes....
It is VS section after all what do ya think who wins Balrog or Smaug? :d
Yea the fight scenes were epic as hell especially Lord Legolas who's been my fav since i watched the originals , badass.

-LOL Balrog wraps that stupid dragon with his whip to restrict flight then proceeds to spank the lizard neg diff , even if Smaug uses flame thrower Balrog tanks it as the guy is literally made of Fire from the underworld so Dragon flames would be like taking a bath for him LOL..
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Yea the fight scenes were epic as hell especially Lord Legolas who's been my fav since i watched the originals , badass.

-LOL Balrog wraps that stupid dragon with his whip to restrict flight then proceeds to spank the lizard neg diff , even if Smaug uses flame thrower Balrog tanks it as the guy is literally made of Fire from the underworld so Dragon flames would be like taking a bath for him LOL..
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Legolas is cool,one of my fav,i like Boromir and Faramir too...

Yup i agree, there are actually ppl who think that Smaug wins only bc he has thick skin :d.
 
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Neosmith is clearly correct here. The fingers were shown while she was coughing up blood to emphasize where he hit her and how he hit her. Not to mention the position his hand is when Hinata tries to withdraw and counter attack is a flat position with the fingers pointed directly at Hinata. [ ] Which wouldn't make sense if he struck her with an open palm.

So yeah, I guess he did strike her through the headband.


And the anime (which I just checked out along with the Manga) shows the same thing, but much clearer.
Neji's palm is clearly flat and under the headband in that scan.....Coughing blood is a result of hitting the organs in the chest area as demonstrated multiple times in the manga.
 

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No, it obviously can be ruled out because you guys literally pulled that assertion out of thin air. Meanwhile:

-Kisame shows no signs of being damaged.
-Kisame shows no signs that he healed himself from the damage he never took in the first place.
-Neji makes no comments that'd hint that Kisame was damaged.
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Im sick and tired of ppl ignoring a simple fact about Kisame and his sword! One touch! Healed! Boom!

immediatle after he was hit Kishi made it obvious that he grabbed his sword. He constantly heals from either Sama or himself taking willingly.

Facts of manga and databook states internal damage is done, Kisame's grabs sword asap afterward so any affect done is now canceled by default based off previous manga facts.
 
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Neji's palm is clearly flat and under the headband in that scan.....Coughing blood is a result of hitting the organs in the chest area as demonstrated multiple times in the manga.
Dude look at the center of this headband right at the center of the Leaf logo on it.
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Neji's finger is literally located directly on the Logo in the Upper right scan which clearly means that it wasn't underneath the headband , but instead directly on it clearly very much close to the middle of the whole headband.
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Finger Literally on the headband directly on the middle spiral on the Leaf Logo yet u keep saying it was underneath the whole Headband , clearly ur wrong and Blind here and u can compare it Neji's headband at the center of his logo to see that hitting the Logo obviously means his finger wasn't underneath the headband as ur claiming , but watevers if u still dont get it thats fine , not about to get reinstated into this Dead argument when ur clearly dead wrong.
 
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Im sick and tired of ppl ignoring a simple fact about Kisame and his sword! One touch! Healed! Boom!

immediatle after he was hit Kishi made it obvious that he grabbed his sword. He constantly heals from either Sama or himself taking willingly.

Facts of manga and databook states internal damage is done, Kisame's grabs sword asap afterward so any affect done is now canceled by default based off previous manga facts.
One touch and if he or his sword initiates it then he's healed. Not sure what's so hard for you people to grasp about that. Kisame automatically touching his sword is NOT proof that he healed himself. There is NO proof Air Palm does internal damage and there's no databook scan that actually says it does internal damage. So all you people who support this can stop now. You haven't even said anything that the others haven't said and their arguments didn't make any sense. It's hilarious how people actually think that Kisame was damaged and healed himself all without Kishimoto illustrating it. :lol
 
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Neji's palm is clearly flat and under the headband in that scan.....Coughing blood is a result of hitting the organs in the chest area as demonstrated multiple times in the manga.
Maybe if you are blind it is. But if you actually open your eyes and read the Manga you can clearly see that his hand is NOT flat upon withdrawal as the scan clearly shows. And the scan literally shows his fingers on the headband. Smh. Come on now.
 

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Yea man , the hobbits isn't as great as the originals but i loved them and the Orcs in the originals were muchhhhhhhh better.




So this is how Dr. Rat did it , JK proof tho im technically right but anyway PI i thought u ran from our debate here which is why i discussed u in the group since i saw u lurking without replying , but clearly u didn't run which i respect and to be clear i never sneak dissed u only shed light to how i proved u wrong in this thread which isn't exactly a lie..
When these rats start snitching break em off
 

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One touch and if he or his sword initiates it then he's healed. Not sure what's so hard for you people to grasp about that. Kisame automatically touching his sword is NOT proof that he healed himself. There is NO proof Air Palm does internal damage and there's no databook scan that actually says it does internal damage. So all you people who support this can stop now. You haven't even said anything that the others haven't said and their arguments didn't make any sense. It's hilarious how people actually think that Kisame was damaged and healed himself all without Kishimoto illustrating it. :lol
So even when the manga shows fact that one touch and healing is made whether kisame agrees or not..
So even though the manga never showed or anounced that healing happened, you make your own rules and say "NOT proof that he healed himself" just because he literally did not say "i'm healed"...
I literally showed manga facts, not BS opinions of what simple contact EVERY SINGLE TIME with it's owner meant (forceably or vulentarily).
Jyuken attacks vitals and internal organs! This is used to enter and hit your path ways just like physical contact was made. (I.e. Sasuke coudlnt manifest higher susanoo since his "vital spot" was hit with the byakugans pinpoint hit via kaguya)

At this point it's clear as day you choose what to believe base off nothing! The manga never showed Itachi's dad using genjutsu, but since it is a common fact the eyes give you that ability does he still have that capability even though it was never stated? (that's your logic)

Says healing through touch is only when KG says it's in affect, not through actual touch. lol Done!
 

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So even when the manga shows fact that one touch and healing is made whether kisame agrees or not..
So even though the manga never showed or anounced that healing happened, you make your own rules and say "NOT proof that he healed himself" just because he literally did not say "i'm healed"...

I literally showed manga facts, not BS opinions of what simple contact EVERY SINGLE TIME with it's owner meant (forceably or vulentarily).
Jyuken attacks vitals and internal organs! This is used to enter and hit your path ways just like physical contact was made. (I.e. Sasuke coudlnt manifest higher susanoo since his "vital spot" was hit with the byakugans pinpoint hit via kaguya)

At this point it's clear as day you choose what to believe base off nothing! The manga never showed Itachi's dad using genjutsu, but since it is a common fact the eyes give you that ability does he still have that capability even though it was never stated? (that's your logic)

Says healing through touch is only when KG says it's in affect, not through actual touch. lol Done!
The Manga shows that if initiated a touch is all Kisame needs to heal himself. Samehada willingly gave up the chakra inside of it to B, meaning Samehada initiated it. All this "one touch and auto heal" is fanfiction based on literally nothing. By your logic whenever someone is in contact with Samehada he's automatically receiving chakra from the sword. But of course, like 99% of you and everyone else arguing on your side in this thread it's based on nothing and makes no sense.

I can't even fathom why this is such a hard concept to grasp. One touch lets him heal is not the same thing as "touching the sword automatically initiates healing".

Air Palm is not Gentle Fist so that is an irrelevant statement to mention. Like I said, don't bother if you have nothing new to bring to the table. Gentle Fist attacks the vitals by injecting chakra into the target's pathway system. That's internal damage. What Kaguya did with her needles isn't internal damage like Gentle Fist either so why even bring that up? She used a needle to pierce into his skin and pierce his vital point.

Air Palm is only stated to attack the vital points. Not that it bypasses the exterior and hits the vitals directly like Gentle Fist does when they inject chakra into the victim.

-Kisame took Air Palm and took no damage. Shown in the Manga.
-Kaguya's tech is stated to be similar, but far stronger. Does no internal damage to Naruto.
-No Manga scan of Kisame healing. Just assumptions.

You guys really need to stop grasping at straws. This is not debatable by any stretch of the imagination.
 

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The Manga shows that if initiated a touch is all Kisame needs to heal himself. Samehada willingly gave up the chakra inside of it to B, meaning Samehada initiated it. All this "one touch and auto heal" is fanfiction based on literally nothing. By your logic whenever someone is in contact with Samehada he's automatically receiving chakra from the sword. But of course, like 99% of you and everyone else arguing on your side in this thread it's based on nothing and makes no sense.

I can't even fathom why this is such a hard concept to grasp. One touch lets him heal is not the same thing as "touching the sword automatically initiates healing".

Air Palm is not Gentle Fist so that is an irrelevant statement to mention. Like I said, don't bother if you have nothing new to bring to the table. Gentle Fist attacks the vitals by injecting chakra into the target's pathway system. That's internal damage. What Kaguya did with her needles isn't internal damage like Gentle Fist either so why even bring that up? She used a needle to pierce into his skin and pierce his vital point.

Air Palm is only stated to attack the vital points. Not that it bypasses the exterior and hits the vitals directly like Gentle Fist does when they inject chakra into the victim.

-Kisame took Air Palm and took no damage. Shown in the Manga.
-Kaguya's tech is stated to be similar, but far stronger. Does no internal damage to Naruto.
-No Manga scan of Kisame healing. Just assumptions.

You guys really need to stop grasping at straws. This is not debatable by any stretch of the imagination.
And ima make this super simple. How do you know kisame or his sword didnt inniciate any chakra heal? lmao Prove that before saying (he never said "I inniciate that i want to be heal"). Prove he or his sword didnt make any healing happen since its fact if his sword likes you it heals you everytime no matter what. Its a reason he says meaning, as long as i hold this sword I heal and take your chakra. WHy woudn't his sword transfer/heal this one time ever? Lmao Who said he didnt? Show proof of what he said in his head.

Who said Kisame took no damage when the man took a 6th gate kick to the face and didnt make a sound! Again your own bs opinion based off nothing. Prove he took no damage, literally take off his shirt or ask kishi. lmmfao
, ignores and makes it not have jyuken. lmao

Show he didnt take damage, show an Xray! I'll wait! What defies "take damage" since you are now the end all be all in real or fake logic! lmmfao
 

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And ima make this super simple. How do you know kisame or his sword didnt inniciate any chakra heal? lmao Prove that before saying (he never said "I inniciate that i want to be heal"). Prove he or his sword didnt make any healing happen since its fact if his sword likes you it heals you everytime no matter what. Its a reason he says meaning, as long as i hold this sword I heal and take your chakra. WHy woudn't his sword transfer/heal this one time ever? Lmao Who said he didnt? Show proof of what he said in his head.

Who said Kisame took no damage when the man took a 6th gate kick to the face and didnt make a sound! Again your own bs opinion based off nothing. Prove he took no damage, literally take off his shirt or ask kishi. lmmfao
, ignores and makes it not have jyuken. lmao

Show he didnt take damage, show an Xray! I'll wait! What defies "take damage" since you are now the end all be all in real or fake logic! lmmfao
Lmao what? Are you kidding me? The Manga didn't show, hint or state that Kisame healed himself in that instance. If you want to argue that he did then you better provide the actual evidence for it. Bold is literally something you made up. The sword will heal you or he will heal himself if needed, and there was no need to heal him there because he didn't take damage. :lol

Kisame's statement doesn't prove he's always absorbing chakra from Samehada. That in itself makes no sense because he's not always absorbing chakra from his opponents either. When he needs to heal or take chakra, he takes it. Simple as that. If he healed himself it would've been shown like every other instance was shown in this Manga. Point blank period.

And lmao Haizaki literally posted that argument (that he said came from you :lol) earlier in this thread. Who cares if he didn't make a sound? The Manga illustrated the fact that he was damaged and that is the main point. We aren't arguing about pain tolerance we are arguing about damage. Where was the illustrated damage when Air Palm hit him? Oh wait, nowhere, because it didn't happen. And I suggest you read that databook scan before you reply again. It says it attacks the vitals just like the Gentle Fist fighting style does. Where does it say it's the same as Gentle Fist? Nowhere. It only says it attacks the vtials. Where does it say that it channels chakra into the pathway system to damage it and surrounding organs? Nowhere. Meanwhile:

-Manga doesn't show Kisame taking damage.
-Manga doesn't show Kisame being healed.
-Manga shows an attack stated to be just like Air Palm aside from the wide gulf in power (Kaguya's Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack) hitting Naruto directly and doing no internal damage to him at all.

Yet somehow I've encountered 3-4 people in this thread who actually think Air palm does internal damage. Lmao you guys are something else.
 

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Lmao what? Are you kidding me? The Manga didn't show, hint or state that Kisame healed himself in that instance. If you want to argue that he did then you better provide the actual evidence for it. Bold is literally something you made up. The sword will heal you or he will heal himself if needed, and there was no need to heal him there because he didn't take damage. :lol

Kisame's statement doesn't prove he's always absorbing chakra from Samehada. That in itself makes no sense because he's not always absorbing chakra from his opponents either. When he needs to heal or take chakra, he takes it. Simple as that. If he healed himself it would've been shown like every other instance was shown in this Manga. Point blank period.

And lmao Haizaki literally posted that argument (that he said came from you :lol) earlier in this thread. Who cares if he didn't make a sound? The Manga illustrated the fact that he was damaged and that is the main point. We aren't arguing about pain tolerance we are arguing about damage. Where was the illustrated damage when Air Palm hit him? Oh wait, nowhere, because it didn't happen. And I suggest you read that databook scan before you reply again. It says it attacks the vitals just like the Gentle Fist fighting style does. Where does it say it's the same as Gentle Fist? Nowhere. It only says it attacks the vtials. Where does it say that it channels chakra into the pathway system to damage it and surrounding organs? Nowhere. Meanwhile:

-Manga doesn't show Kisame taking damage.
-Manga doesn't show Kisame being healed.
-Manga shows an attack stated to be just like Air Palm aside from the wide gulf in power (Kaguya's Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack) hitting Naruto directly and doing no internal damage to him at all.

Yet somehow I've encountered 3-4 people in this thread who actually think Air palm does internal damage. Lmao you guys are something else.
So you have no proof from the manga or kishi or databook of your opinion? lol Ok done!
 

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How is this thread still alive? People honestly think neji can put up a fight against Kimi? Lmfao Kimi shits on his chest then sticks a home up his ass
 
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