[VS] Kimimaro Vs Kakuzu
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It's a method of "absolute defence" and Kimi managed to make a hole through it, although he couldn't pass through it. Earth Spear was never mentioned has such and doesn't have outstanding feats so it's hard to say. Dance of the Clematis: Flower is supposed to be Kimi's best attack derivated from his Kekkei Genkai, Earth Spear is a strong Doton, for me it's safer to assume that the strongest/absolute/hardest bone KK > Doton.
I find it harder for Kakuzu to hurt Kimi than the other way around, and Kimi has what it takes that's why i choose him.
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Kakashi tried suiton, noticed it didn't work and still had time to jump back and dodge... He even said the suiton did nothing...
I said Kakashi dodged the wind mask. Kakashi isn't that much faster than kimimaro. You're saying kakashi will effortlessly dodge these attacks but kimimaro won't? The lightning attack needs prep time so that's not hitting anyone at point blank.
Kakashi could have dodged it. Why would he dodge it? He jumped infront of it to save his teammates who couldn't dodge it. Kakashi wasn't even in the attack target area at the time. He just came in to save the fodder. He had enough time to jump in, and start up a raikiri with his hands up.
How is kakuzu dodging dance of the seedling fern? He ain't jumping up and kimimaro can pop out of any one of the several bone flowers.
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If you have something to say, go ahead and say it. If you didn't want to I doubt you would have made that comment.
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Indeed I do have something to say. I shall type the ultimate counter.
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... The only advantage Kimi has on kakuzu is Digital Sharpnel To the hearts But since it doesnt Affect Domu even if he somehow managed to shoot down all of them while being attacked by elemntal Jutsu and kakuzu himself
The suiton slowed down the attack during few seconds levaing time to Kakashi to evade then the katon overpowered it, it wasnt a wasted move, Kimmimaro wont be able to dodge it, does he have suiton? I don't think so.
I said he dodged it due to his sharingan and you still didn't answer my question, does Kimmimaro have the sharingan yes or no? No then he won't be able to dodge it.
Again, Kimmimaro isn't piercing through Kakuzu's Domu so whatever he does is meaningless.
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Its quite simple really kakuzu Grabs Kimi With his Super quick threads then blasts him with wind+fire....
Yeah I can see that happening
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Alright, you're hell bent on saying that kimimaro is slow even though he's shown so many speed feats. The fact is, if it wasn't for hidan, that wind mask would have never been that close to kakashi to warrant him having to pulse poundingly escape. I like how you skipped the part about hidan. These masks all need prep time, enough for kimimaro to start moving before they shoot.
How are any of these attacks getting through his bone anyway? He can't pierce the bone either, so i don't see your point on domu.
Now, answer my question. How does kakuzu beat this:
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He can't Fly. Nor can his masks.
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The wind one was proven to glide/fly and Once Again Those are not getting past Domu .lol it may lift him up but it wont peirce him .
And Btw Kimimaro really is not that fast SPEED wise kakuzu is faster. kimimaro is all agility and evasiveness ( dont get me wrong hes one of the most agile characters in NV) But kakuzu was able to Disappear from "un-focused eyes" And travel medium distances in a blink of the eye
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Domu needs to be active. It will eventually drop, or kakuzu runs out of chakra at best. Seedling fern is kimimaro's only ninjutsu move. Running out of chakra isn't a worry for him.
The mask can fly this high? (look at kimimaro in relation to the bones. And that's still not the base of the bone)
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That's at the least 30 feet. Scans Please.
How are his bones protecting him against a super powerful fire blast? I love how you think his bones can tank almost anything when in reality it was just shown to be useful against melee attacks only.
The fact is Kakashi who has the sharingan and who's faster than kimmimaro wasn't able to evade his fire+wind mask at point blank range without using a suiton, Kimmimaro can't use suiton ,not hard to understand really, you are just saying Kimmi could dodge it when I have refuted that argument.
Kimmimaro will already be dead before he gets to pull off that move, in any case Domu would protect him against it.
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I'll start this out complex.
Countering Kakuzu's Earth Spear/Taking Out The Masks
Kakuzu's Earth Spear is known to block any physical attack the user uses, that is indeed a great feat. However, Earth Spear also presents a disadvantage: The hardened body part cannot be moved. (Go to if the spoiler below doesn't work:
This provides a huge advantage to Kimimaro as Kakuzu's body would be unable to move, and protect the other hearts in which are bestowed upon his body. Kakuzu's Lightning, Wind, and Katon mask would be smashed (his hearts are kept within his mask, Earth Spear is only effective toward the skin) thus, a simple Sawarabi no Mai > Kakuzu's mask:
Countering Kakuzu's Earth Spear/Taking Out The Masks
Kakuzu's Earth Spear is known to block any physical attack the user uses, that is indeed a great feat. However, Earth Spear also presents a disadvantage: The hardened body part cannot be moved. (Go to if the spoiler below doesn't work:
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This provides a huge advantage to Kimimaro as Kakuzu's body would be unable to move, and protect the other hearts in which are bestowed upon his body. Kakuzu's Lightning, Wind, and Katon mask would be smashed (his hearts are kept within his mask, Earth Spear is only effective toward the skin) thus, a simple Sawarabi no Mai > Kakuzu's mask:
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I've said Kimimaro dodges attacks, but that's not good enough for you. Now Him being impervious to crushing is not enough either? The guy had his skin ripped off. The fire would burn his skin off, it wouldn't get past the bone. He's already showed he can survive with ripped skin. His bone layer is right under his skin protecting everything vital.
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He's basically got his own version of domu under his skin. Most likely not as strong, but any attack on him needs to actually damage something to kill him. Damaging his skin is useless, he already breaks it with his bone... And Kakuzu's domu was broken by raikiri so we know it's not all impervious. kimimaro's bone spear was shattered when kimi tried to force it through shukaku ultimate defence. you're also wrong about the wind and fire thing.
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He already dodged the attack. He just tried to out it instead of evading more but that didn't work so he had to continue evading.
Kimimaro literally just needs to do some handseals(unconfirmed if handseals are even necessary) and touch the ground. To do any of those moves, kakuzu needs to release his mask. It's much more likely for kimimaro to do this before kakuzu. Domu won't protect the masks though, so now kakuzu is on 1 heart and kimimaro is jumping through bones. He just lost the fight because he can do nothing but defend.
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Yeah basically you keep repeating the same thing that has been refuted many times already. You say he dodges his attacks and I have proved that wrong.
It is not a simple fire technique it is fire combined with wind which makes it a hundred times more powerful, he isn't tanking this, it will melt and incapacitate him.
Does Kimmimaro have any raiton attack at all? if he tries to attack Domu with his bones they will break.
You make no sense at all, why would he waste his chakra doing a suiton if he could have evaded it? He countered with a suiton leaving him time to evade the attack before it got overpowered, since Kimmimaro has no suiton he will get roasted.
Did Kimmimaro ever start off a fight using this jutsu? if not then it's an invalid argument, he has no reason to use his most powerful jutsu right away.
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You've actually not proved it wrong that he can dodge the attack. Kakuzu couldn't hit anyone except his team mate. lul.
Why continue running when you can try to stop an attack? You're sounding desperate now... That's like asking why did mei use waterspout against madara, they could've just flown away with sand or something, right? Did you even look at the scan? The guy was already in the air when he used suiton, that means he already dodged the initial attack.
I've proved so many times that kakuzu's attacks don't even hit anyone yet you say kimimaro can't dodge it just because.
Kimimaro had one fight and he toyed with them. 2 of the people were using taijutsu, he underestimated gaara. you do realise there's a 20m start distance right? kakuzu can't just pop out masks and point blank attack. He needs to get to point blank, and by that time kimimaru is out taijutsuing him. If he tries to attack, kimimaro protrudes bone. If he domu's a spot, he can't even move it.
You can't even counter seedling fern. you just desperately use the good old "Why would he use that jutsu early?". You're trying to tell me that kakuzu is faster than rock lee after opening a gate? right... Even then kimimaro whipped lee.
You continually skip over all the prep time required for all these masks moves. Prep time for masks to come out. Time for them to join together. Time for them to prepare and use an attack. None of this is instant, and once kimimaro is within melee distance, he's destroying anything without domu in an instant. Any one of his bone dances will crush the mask before it preps it's attack, because apparently you like talking about point blank. Point blank is taijutsu distance, and ninjutsu masks won't survive at point blank for long against a taijutsu specialist
You can clearly see that hes doing the hand sign when the fire jutsu is coming at him, are you blind or just stupid?
He blocked the fire jutsu with a suiton leaving him time to jump back and evade. You're the one who sounds desperate trying to contradict the manga itself.
Yet I have just proved that Kakashi could not have dodged his fire jutsu without his suiton yet he's just as fast as Kimmimaro if not faster, I have proved so many times that Kimmimaro won't be able to but for some reason you have trouble comprehending.
Just because? Wow you've just proved that you can't read.
No worry, Kakuzu would pop out his masks and wait for Kimmimaro to come near then fodderize him with his 3 masks.
You're just pulling that out of your ass, you can't prove with a manga scan that Kimmimaro ever started off a fight using this jutsu, no one use their ultimate jutsu right off the bat in a fight against an opponent who he has no intel on.
What prep times? Are you telling me that Kimmimaro can move at the speed of light, lmao, taking his masks out of his body barely takes 1 second he won't have time to do jackshit.
Sadly Kimmimaro isn't getting close to Kakuzu, he will get destroyed by his fuuton + fire mask in no time. You do realize that by getting close to Kakuzu he would just be signing his own death warrant? What is he going to do once he's close to him? Lmao, his bones can't even hurt Kakuzu due to Domu he will get fodderized by his lightening + fire + wind mask, Kimmimaro just doesn't stand a chance.
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None of those elemetal masks are going to hurt kimi at all.
Bone forest kills every mask at once,there are several thousand bones that pop up,and he can come out of any one,remeber,he was 200 feet below the surface when he used it,and his bones instantly jotted right upwards and even extended above,those masks of kakauzu and kakauzu himself have shown levitating about 30 feet. No way is any mask surviving bone forest,kimi dosent need to move for that jutsu too,or for bones to jot out of his body,so any threads that gab him will be cut off.
His speed is great in base and even greater in CS mode,coupled with his taijutsu being a complete 5.
In cs2,his body becomes impenetrable,fire isnt going to help at all,neither is wind nor gian.
His earth spear however,makes this a draw,as kimi relies on sharp piercing attacks with his bones which wont work
Bone forest kills every mask at once,there are several thousand bones that pop up,and he can come out of any one,remeber,he was 200 feet below the surface when he used it,and his bones instantly jotted right upwards and even extended above,those masks of kakauzu and kakauzu himself have shown levitating about 30 feet. No way is any mask surviving bone forest,kimi dosent need to move for that jutsu too,or for bones to jot out of his body,so any threads that gab him will be cut off.
His speed is great in base and even greater in CS mode,coupled with his taijutsu being a complete 5.
In cs2,his body becomes impenetrable,fire isnt going to help at all,neither is wind nor gian.
His earth spear however,makes this a draw,as kimi relies on sharp piercing attacks with his bones which wont work