Kimimaro vs Hebi Sasuke

Winner?

  • Kimimaro (full health)

    Votes: 5 26.3%
  • Sasuke (Hebi)

    Votes: 14 73.7%

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Kimimaro is at full health and intends to kill Sasuke (regardless of him being Orochimaru's next vessel).

Sasuke is how he was against Itachi, and is also going for the kill.

Location: Kimimaro vs Gaara + Lee
Knowledge: none
Intent: to kill
Distance: 20 meters
 

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Hebi Sasuke stomps, CS2 Sasuke at VotE would have won and you give it to Part 2 up until Itachi fight? Sasuke stomps like no tomorrow, with instant snake summons and a snake army, oral rebirth if required, 3 tomoe sharingan(which although not emphasized much in part 2 any more, 3 tomoe vote Sasuke outsped Kimi by far), CS2, Goryuuka, Genjutsu, Chidori Eisou, Senbon, Nagashi.....need I go on? This is actually a gigantic stomp now that I listed his jutsu, I change it from "stomp" initially to "massive curbstomp". Unfortunately, Kimimaro stands literally no chance.

I'm seriously extremely curious to anyone who could possibly say Kimimaro in this situation and want reasons to why, because VotE Sasuke is one thing and he arguably stomps. Hebi Sasuke? Please
 

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Sasuke would win but it would be a good fight considering he is healthy. I would have loved to see Kimimaro go up against the Naruto's clone and defeat it. He might have gone up and may have been able to defeat even Hebi Sasuke.
 

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Sasuke stomps with low diff. How can you compare them when Sasuke was chosen as Orochimaru's vessel, and not only that but in Sasuke Retrieval arc, Sasuke could have beat him...but if we're talking about how he was when he faced Itachi then Kimimaro would have no hope of winning... no offence but this thread was pointless considering the circumstances.
 

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lol at people saying Sasuke stomps. He is my favourite character but Kimimaro would give him a good fight. Consider the following, Kimimaro was on the verge of death yet he had the stamina to fight a huge number of Naruto clones, Lee and Gaara.

Hebi Sasuke nevertheless wins high difficulty against a healthy Kimimaro or mid difficulty against a sick Kimimaro. Sasuke's lightning would pierce his bones but Kimimaro could tank some damage from Sasuke's attacks.
 

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Okay, I hope you guys realize Kimimaro Almost killed a Eight Inner Gates master and a Jinchuriki while he was Dying. On top of that, while he was dying he took an a ranked attack that would have killed Sasuke and shrugged it off

Thanks to his untimely death we never saw the full power of the Kaguya and judging them con not really be done in any way
 

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Okay, I hope you guys realize Kimimaro Almost killed a Eight Inner Gates master and a Jinchuriki while he was Dying. On top of that, while he was dying he took an a ranked attack that would have killed Sasuke and shrugged it off

Thanks to his untimely death we never saw the full power of the Kaguya and judging them con not really be done in any way

Lee was still in recovery dont count gears ok yu got me dare
 

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lol at people saying Sasuke stomps. He is my favourite character but Kimimaro would give him a good fight. Consider the following, Kimimaro was on the verge of death yet he had the stamina to fight a huge number of Naruto clones, Lee and Gaara.

Hebi Sasuke nevertheless wins high difficulty against a healthy Kimimaro or mid difficulty against a sick Kimimaro. Sasuke's lightning would pierce his bones but Kimimaro could tank some damage from Sasuke's attacks.
Allow me to create a comparison diagram of irrefutable logic and wit:

Sasu "Chidori Nagashi."

Kimimaro paralyzed "..."

Sasu "Chidori Eisou"

*dead Kimimaro*
Okay, I hope you guys realize Kimimaro Almost killed a Eight Inner Gates master and a Jinchuriki while he was Dying. On top of that, while he was dying he took an a ranked attack that would have killed Sasuke and shrugged it off

Thanks to his untimely death we never saw the full power of the Kaguya and judging them con not really be done in any way
...no he didn't. He almost killed a kid who couldn't use a fraction of his power and just recovered from major surgery from getting his bone crushed and wasn't supposed to be out of bed, and a genin ninja who did not use Shukaku whose attacks were specifically set to not work on Kimimaro.

Sasuke stomps so bad in this match, it's actually one of the bigger stomps I've seen. He completely fodderizes Kimimaro with zero effort, he probably could win this with both legs broken and can't move 1 arm and has to stand still with his eyes shut. At the very least, he doesn't even have to move.
 

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Allow me to create a comparison diagram of irrefutable logic and wit:

Sasu "Chidori Nagashi."

Kimimaro paralyzed "..."

Sasu "Chidori Eisou"

*dead Kimimaro*
Oh allow me to do the same:

Kimimaro: "Dance of the young ferns"

*Sasuke is now dead, pierced by hundreds of huge bones*


...no he didn't. He almost killed a kid who couldn't use a fraction of his power and just recovered from major surgery from getting his bone crushed and wasn't supposed to be out of bed, and a genin ninja who did not use Shukaku whose attacks were specifically set to not work on Kimimaro.

Sasuke stomps so bad in this match, it's actually one of the bigger stomps I've seen. He completely fodderizes Kimimaro with zero effort, he probably could win this with both legs broken and can't move 1 arm and has to stand still with his eyes shut. At the very least, he doesn't even have to move.

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We were not able to see the full power of the Kaguya. The dude was dying, pretty much dead, and was not even able to use a fraction of his powers. Talk about a Handicap. Lee was recovering, peachy, Kimimaro was being eaten away second by second, fighting at probably 5% of what he really could due to this sickness of his, Amazing.

Honestly Kimimaro was on a shelf of his own when it came to power and if he had not been sick he would have been able to destroy both Rock Lee and Gaara in a matter of seconds. People underestimate the Kaguya due to them never really being able to show their power, however if they could half of the people that doubt them would be shown that they were not one to treason with.
 

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Oh allow me to do the same:

Kimimaro: "Dance of the young ferns"

*Sasuke is now dead, pierced by hundreds of huge bones*
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Actually, unlike my example, this is counterable. Lee and Gaara countered it and it's not an unavoidable insta kill as you seem to think. As someone with sharingan who can see chakra, he will easily see that easier than Gaara and Lee who reacted....in Part 1. Considering you avoided your own response to my example leads me to believe you do not have one


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We were not able to see the full power of the Kaguya. The dude was dying, pretty much dead, and was not even able to use a fraction of his powers.
I know I'm probably wrong here but when was that ever said? I know he was dying, but it was never said he was weaker was it? When? I thought it was obvious that he was 'weaker' but I'm curious because I don't think I remember. Being sick and dying from it is different from being weaker, but yeah, out of curiosity.
Talk about a Handicap. Lee was recovering, peachy, Kimimaro was being eaten away second by second, fighting at probably 5% of what he really could due to this sickness of his, Amazing.
This is a blatant exaggeration. He's in no way 20 times stronger when not sick, and even if he was twenty times stronger with absolutely no support for that baseless argument, Sasuke still stomps.

Lee would have also stomped Kimimaro, Lee had just recovered from his bones being completely crushed nad having bone fragments in his spine, and call this a retcon, but Tsunade, who can heal Onoki and Gaara to full health from the verge of death within seconds wasn't confident that he would be able to be healed. Hell the guy wasn't even supposed to be out of bed yet let alone taking names, but he wasn't allowed to enter the higher gates.
Honestly Kimimaro was on a shelf of his own when it came to power and if he had not been sick he would have been able to destroy both Rock Lee and Gaara in a matter of seconds. People underestimate the Kaguya due to them never really being able to show their power, however if they could half of the people that doubt them would be shown that they were not one to treason with.
No he wouldn't have. Where is your support for that argument? What's his counter to being sliced in half with a 15 meter long Chidori Eisou? Counter to genjutsu which he has no knowledge of? Counter to 3 tomoe sharingan which CS2 Sasuke in part 1 who outsped KN1 who outsped KN0 who shat on 2 tomoe who was as fast as weightless Lee who was matching Kimimaro in speed? Counter to Chidori Nagashi? Counter to goryuuka? Counter to Manda? Counter to multiple snake summons? Counter to Chidori?

There isn't any counters. Your entire post when on and on about "ohhh he would have been soooo much stronger" without any support to it whatsoever, fact is Kimimaro has no counters to most of the stuff Sasuke has. He stomps. Hard. CS2 Sasuke would have stomped.
 

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Actually, unlike my example, this is counterable. Lee and Gaara countered it and it's not an unavoidable insta kill as you seem to think. As someone with sharingan who can see chakra, he will easily see that easier than Gaara and Lee who reacted....in Part 1. Considering you avoided your own response to my example leads me to believe you do not have one

Your post is easily counter able. Take this for example, Sasuke Uses Chidori Nagahshi, Kimimaro counters by shooting bones out of his ribs while spinning to give them more momentum. The bones act as lightning rods and whalah. Also the lightning for both jutsu only extend to mid range, so all he would need to do is stay long range.

Also, lee and gaara only survived because gaara was capable of making a cloud of sand for them to sit on, when sasuke get's into the air he is going to be shot down by a barrage of bones and once Kimimaro has the bone field out he can merge with it and continually travel through the bones in which sasuke would not be able to find him because the Sharingan only picks up chakra signatures in which the bones all have.

I know I'm probably wrong here but when was that ever said? I know he was dying, but it was never said he was weaker was it? When? I thought it was obvious that he was 'weaker' but I'm curious because I don't think I remember. Being sick and dying from it is different from being weaker, but yeah, out of curiosity.

This is a blatant exaggeration. He's in no way 20 times stronger when not sick, and even if he was twenty times stronger with absolutely no support for that baseless argument, Sasuke still stomps.

Oh, and I suppose your going to say that when Orochimaru was weak he was at his strongest. Cause let me tell you, if Orochimaru was not weak, he would have stomped Sasuke. Also yes, it is a blatant exaggeration, just like your blatant exaggeration that sasuke would stomp Kimimaro.

Lee would have also stomped Kimimaro, Lee had just recovered from his bones being completely crushed nad having bone fragments in his spine, and call this a retcon, but Tsunade, who can heal Onoki and Gaara to full health from the verge of death within seconds wasn't confident that he would be able to be healed. Hell the guy wasn't even supposed to be out of bed yet let alone taking names, but he wasn't allowed to enter the higher gates.

Please tell me how you figure that for your argument you can say lee would have stomped when he was recovering but when it comes to my argument I can't say a man that was coughing up blood, on multiple drugs and had so many wires and plugs in his body that one could not count them all was not at full power?

No he wouldn't have. Where is your support for that argument? What's his counter to being sliced in half with a 15 meter long Chidori Eisou? Counter to genjutsu which he has no knowledge of? Counter to 3 tomoe sharingan which CS2 Sasuke in part 1 who outsped KN1 who outsped KN0 who shat on 2 tomoe who was as fast as weightless Lee who was matching Kimimaro in speed? Counter to Chidori Nagashi? Counter to goryuuka? Counter to Manda? Counter to multiple snake summons? Counter to Chidori?

Counter to snakes? Pierce through them with bones. Counter to Chidori? Never let him even get within five meters of you. Counter to Nagashi? Use your bones as a lightning rod. Counter to his speed? Be faster (He was not even supposed to move an inch, Full health I'm sure he would be much faster). Counter to Goryuuka? Please, Kimimaro got crushed by tons upon tons of sand, a little fire is less than a concern, but if he had to all he would have to make is. Counter to Being sliced in half? His bones are harder than tempered steel and his skin in CS2 Was hardened to the point that Gaara's sand could not penetrate him. All he has to do is protrude a bone in the area of contact and his problems are solved. Counter to genjutsu? Use Kai (Genjutsu release).

There isn't any counters. Your entire post when on and on about "ohhh he would have been soooo much stronger" without any support to it whatsoever, fact is Kimimaro has no counters to most of the stuff Sasuke has. He stomps. Hard. CS2 Sasuke would have stomped.

I hear you saying all this CS2 Sasuke would stomp but in the manga it clearly states that both of there CS2 were equal, so just stop that right there. Also even the wikia states that he was not at his strongest, and the wikia gets their facts from the Anime, Manga and Interviews with Kishi.

And here is a little proof from you from the naruto wikia, since you want evidence:

Kimimaro also had a very strong determination, as when his failing body would be impossible to move physically, he forced it through sheer will, and still proved to be a deadly opponent. The fact that he could fight Naruto, Lee, and Gaara while dying of disease, and never actually being defeated by them, indicates he was an extremely powerful combatant at his peak.

This shows that his full power was not shown, and therefore we can't really judge this battle. I know enough to say that neither ninja would "stomp" the other, due to them both being incredibly strong Shinobi. You can put up your counter but I most likely won't reply because I am going to say that he would have been so much stronger. I just gave you proof that stated that
 

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Your post is easily counter able. Take this for example, Sasuke Uses Chidori Nagahshi, Kimimaro counters by shooting bones out of his ribs while spinning to give them more momentum. The bones act as lightning rods and whalah. Also the lightning for both jutsu only extend to mid range, so all he would need to do is stay long range.
Since when did bones work as lightning rods? Since when was Kimimaro fast enough to do that? Since when would kimimaro, a close range fighter, fight at long range? Ok, he goes long range? Goryuukas, Eisou, Genjutsu, GG. Kimimaro can't hurt Sasuke in any way.

Also, lee and gaara only survived because gaara was capable of making a cloud of sand for them to sit on, when sasuke get's into the air he is going to be shot down by a barrage of bones and once Kimimaro has the bone field out he can merge with it and continually travel through the bones in which sasuke would not be able to find him because the Sharingan only picks up chakra signatures in which the bones all have.
Considering Sasuke easily tanked Deidara's bomb that dwarfs boss summons with his wings, that's not happening. Kimimaro's only ranged jutsu was his finger bullets, he's never rapidly fired a crapload of sword sized bones, dont' give me that. They're easily as counterable as kunai. Sasuke uses chidori senbon, then wut? Goryuuka? He cant just sit there and shoot a bone at him when theres gigantic fire dragons being shot in his face.

The bones all share all of Kimimaro's chakra and split it evenly like shadow clones? Huh? Support this please?


Oh, and I suppose your going to say that when Orochimaru was weak he was at his strongest. Cause let me tell you, if Orochimaru was not weak, he would have stomped Sasuke. Also yes, it is a blatant exaggeration, just like your blatant exaggeration that sasuke would stomp Kimimaro.
Except the part where I actually backed it up with proof and you haven't whatsoever. Orochimaru isn't related to Kimimaro and he didn't have the same sickness why are you using him as an example? And Orochimaru wasn't twenty times weaker either, enough with speculating

Please tell me how you figure that for your argument you can say lee would have stomped when he was recovering but when it comes to my argument I can't say a man that was coughing up blood, on multiple drugs and had so many wires and plugs in his body that one could not count them all was not at full power?
Since when does "full power" mean "the ability to beat Hebi Sasuke" or "twenty times stronger"? Because none of those are true it doens't matter if he was weakened. He gets stomped, you've given pretty much no counters.


Counter to snakes? Pierce through them with bones.
Then he gets chidorid.
Counter to Chidori? Never let him even get within five meters of you.
All of his taijutsu is useless, so GG 99% of Kimi's moveset. Good thing Sasuke's a long range fighter.
Counter to Nagashi? Use your bones as a lightning rod.
Lol, support this shit right now, he gets paralyzed. I hope you know if his bones act as a lightning rode, those are his bones getting shocked. Even if they did work as "lightning rods" which is baseless, I hope you know holding up a metal rod in lightning won't avoid hurting you entirely, it would just be easier to conduct and shock you to death.

Oh yeah, and Yamato's wood which is an insulator didn't seem to perform that lightning rod deal too well.
Counter to his speed? Be faster (He was not even supposed to move an inch, Full health I'm sure he would be much faster).
Lol? You might be sure, but that's speculation and baseless. Weighted Lee was keeping up with Kimimaro effortlessly, and KN0 shat on Sasuke's speed who was faster than weighted Lee. Then Sasuke gained 3rd tomoe and proceeded to crush KN0's speed. 2 years later? .
Counter to Goryuuka? Please, Kimimaro got crushed by tons upon tons of sand, a little fire is less than a concern, but if he had to all he would have to make is.
Withstanding pressure=/=being blasted with an attack that effortlessly breaks through buildings and concrete. So basically "no counter"
Counter to Being sliced in half? His bones are harder than tempered steel and his skin in CS2 Was hardened to the point that Gaara's sand could not penetrate him.
Unfortunately, Raiton>>>>Kimimaro's bones as proven time and time again.
All he has to do is protrude a bone in the area of contact and his problems are solved. Counter to genjutsu? Use Kai (Genjutsu release).
Lol wut? Where's Kimimaro's genjutsu prowess, exactly? Because last I checked even a genjutsu user fell to Sasuke's genjutsu, instantly, and at long range. Kimimaro has literally shown 0 genjutsu defense and a genjutsu user became immobile and couldn't use no "kai genjutsu release". Sasuke looks at him and puts him in a genjutsu, then proceeds to decapitate him GG.

I noticed you "skipped" the counters to Eisou? Counters to Manda? Of course you'd ignore them though since Kimimaro dies by them, not like he has an answer to any of the others.

I hear you saying all this CS2 Sasuke would stomp but in the manga it clearly states that both of there CS2 were equal, so just stop that right there.
CS2's being of equal level means they're of equal power? Orochimaru chose Sasuke for a reason, and he has Sharingan. And Eisou. And Manda. And Genjutsu. And Goryuukas. and Kirin. And Nagashi. So seriously, back up any way Kimimaro stands a chance which you can't, he loses.
Also even the wikia states that he was not at his strongest, and the wikia gets their facts from the Anime, Manga and Interviews with Kishi.
Not being at your strongest=/= being "20 times stronger" and being able to beat Hebi Sasuke. Seriously, he stomped the entire Team 7 with little effort and put Yamato on the defensive and could have killed him. Yamato, a Jonin ROOT member. who would also destroy Kimi while we're on the subject.
And here is a little proof from you from the naruto wikia, since you want evidence

This shows that his full power was not shown, and therefore we can't really judge this battle. I know enough to say that neither ninja would "stomp" the other, due to them both being incredibly strong Shinobi. You can put up your counter but I most likely won't reply because I am going to say that he would have been so much stronger. I just gave you proof that stated that

Ok, that's cool, but unless he's literally 50 plus times stronger he will stand no chance against Sasuke. Seriously, stop the BS and speculating, there's no way he's near that strong. It's a VS Match for a reason
 

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Hebi Sasuke would win, it's a good matchup not far fetched at all
 
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