[VS] Killer Bee vs Sasori

[Imperious]

I doubt Satetsu can pierce Bee's version two. If we go by powerscaling, then his shroud should be superior to KN4's. That, and he's fast enough to dodge it. Bee would dance through Aka Higi: Hyakki no Soen. They can't pierce his shroud(version two at least), they aren't fast enough to ever tag him, if Chiyo and Sakura were able to keep up with them. Bee would breeze through Aka Higi: Hyakki no Soen, and make his way toward Sasori to finish him. Bijuudama is a compete game-breaker. The only conceivable scenario I could see ending in Sasori's victory, would be if Bee jokes around too much, and doesn't put his shroud up in time, and gets himself scratched in base. Something that isn't giving him the majority victory out of ten battles here.

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[Imperious]

Burning the needles is a possibility. Even if the aura doesn't do that, I'm pretty sure Hachibi could heal the poison the way Kyuubi heals poison.

Heart transfer hardly has speed feats, but I highly doubt that Sasori can escape Killer Bee for long, and if Killer Bee decimates the puppets there won't be a place for the heart to transfer. I don't believe Sasori has the reaction speed to heart transfer before a Lariat hits him.

Killer Bee could easily destroy Third Kazekage before he uses poison gas, even if he does Killer Bee runs out of the range, if poison gas had such a huge range then it would easily have solo'd Sakura and Chiyo.

Hachibi mode is probably a bad move against Sasori, but KB doesn't need to use Hachibi's power to kill Sasori, using three tails or more should be able to take Sasori out due to KB's massive speed and power.
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[Kagustuchi]

Nope. I'm saying Bijuu Dama is never used from the get-go, and it isn't. Sasori uses his Satetsu from the get-go because it's his favourite puppet and is practically normal sand imbued with poison. So nah, that comparison goes out the window.

That must be why hes always in Hiruko and Chico was calling that his favorite before the Kazekage was revealed.

So if your starting him outside of Hiruko then the CIS argument is what goes out the window

 

[Apêx1]

That must be why hes always in Hiruko and Chico was calling that his favorite before the Kazekage was revealed.

So if your starting him outside of Hiruko then the CIS argument is what goes out the window

Again, when you don't know what you're talking about, it's better to say nothing at all. Chiyo didn't know about Satetsu until he used him. Sasori said Satetsu was his favourite puppet, Chiyo said Sasori's favourite was Hiruko. Clearly, he received Satetsu after and thus has a new favourite. So he is 2nd favourite.

Who said he starts outside of Hiruko again? Because I sure as hell didn't.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Again, when you don't know what you're talking about, it's better to say nothing at all. Chiyo didn't know about Satetsu until he used him. Sasori said Satetsu was his favourite puppet, Chiyo said Sasori's favourite was Hiruko. Clearly, he received Satetsu after and thus has a new favourite. So he is 2nd favourite.

Who said he starts outside of Hiruko again? Because I sure as hell didn't.

Refer to your previous post. You said he would "use him from the get go" because it's his favorite puppet.

Not that this argument isn't already stupid, I hate ones where people argue that someone just isn't going to use a move and the other person is going to be throwing everything they got at them.

 

[Lord Tywin]

No, not really. Sakura and Chiyo didn't evade Sasori's attacks because of speed as we've already seen Satetsu attacks move faster than they could run as they had to put up shields instead. It is specifically stated that they did so through Sakura's training at evading in general as a Medic-nin and Chiyo's ability to control her and raise up her evasive skills. Sasori didn't have a particular way to know how to exactly measure Sakura's evasiveness. Which is the whole point for changing tactics into a massive area of effect attack - to eliminate the need to measure their evasiveness.

Once again, I don't see the assumption here. Let me break it down again.

1. We know that Satetsu is controlled by magnetic force for a fact.

2. We know that the stronger magnetic force is, the stronger the repellant property is for a fact.

3. We know that Sasori can change Chakra into Magnetic Force and keep on pumping chakra as long as he has more for a fact.

4. We know that Satetsu is moved via magnetism's repellant property for a fact.

5. We know that Sasori raises the speed of his Satetsu with the repellant force of magnetism for a fact, proven by the DB.

Conclusion? Sasori can raise the speed of his Satetsu as long as he has more Chakra to convert and strenghten his magnetic force. More so, we've seen bigger Satetsu attacks that are faster than the smaller Satetsu attacks already. Notably, the Satetsu Spears [

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] which's speed is highlighted by the fact that they: a) elongated after being launched at full speed, b) had the sfx: whoosh effect to highlight the speed they were travelling at, c) had a clear effect on the atmosphere/space surrounding it - most likely breaking the sound barrier. Same doesn't go for the small Drizzle. [

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] Spears are a lot bigger. [

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] Want to know why the spears were faster? Sasori pumped more magnetic force into them. [

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] Point? Bigger Satetsu weaponry can be faster than smaller ones as long as Sasori uses the appropriate amount of magnetic force.

Bee covers the evading area with his own greater speed and reaction time. Heck his evading skills is better than Sakura's, based on his performance against Sasuke.
And one more thing is that Bee can increase his own speed via shunshin. Hell of a lot more than Sasori's, given that Bee's chakra is far greater than Sasori's. So it doesn't matter how much Sasori increases his iron sand's speed when Bee can use shunshin. Bee can even use less chakra for his shunshin than what Sasori's gonna put in his iron sand because of Bee's far superior base speed.
So no, Bee's not going to lose the battle of speed. Not a chance.

The situations are clearly different. As I've said, Bee was expecting an attack all along and it was blatantly clear, the last member would attempt an attack right after he was electrocuted - thus being left in a vunerable state - and they were going for a coordinated attack. Chiyo, who has years of experience above him, wouldn't have been able to notice Sasori sneaking up on her since she thought he was dead.

When Bee strikes Sasori,

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. Bee can even damage it more with his raiton, and Sasori's body being simple wood.
Now what happens when Sasori's entire body is scattered?
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Even Sakura noticed it.
And Chiyo was drawing her last breaths. Different than a fresh opponent like Bee.

And 100 puppets are supposed to help how? With poisoned blades that the third Kazekage already has? Quality > Quantity. All the 100 puppets will accomplish is mess up Sasori's use of Satetsu.

My point is that third kazekage won't help Sasori on its own. All of its attacks are dodged, and Bee can blitz it. Without using the 100 puppets and third kazekage at the same time, Sasori won't survive longer than a minute.

Point being? Said water is Suigetsu's body so it's quite clear why he was affected. Last time I checked, Satetsu isn't Sasori's body nor is it a living being.

He can punch through it with raiton. Redirecting raiton won't help because it's like letting poison run through your body. Meaning raiton being the natural counter for his earth release variant, will just make the iron sand crumble apart.

Destroying Hiruko accomplishes what? Bee doesn't know that Hiruko isn't Sasori's real body and we're back to Bee assuming Sasori is dead. Secondly, I've made it clear why Bee would attack Sasori - who has no weaponry and is human as far as Bee knows - instead of his puppet - who can fight at close range and has weaponry stored inside his point. Attacking the Puppet Master who can't fight is a clear tactic that every opponent of theirs' tries to utilize.

Destroying Hiruko takes away Sasori's most dangerous technique to Bee. Without Satetsu Bee can use his swords which makes it a stomp when Sasori tries to pull out 100 puppets. Which in turn makes his own body vulnerable, as he gives away that he's a puppet himself as he reveals his vulnerable core.

1. We've seen him only cover the palm of his hand like Kakashi/Sasuke do with Chidori/Raikiri. That means he can very much be hurt by the spikes.

2. Kakuzu's point still stands. All he did was branch off the already existant shape into more lightning with the same shape. We don't know whether Bee can coat his whole arms or body in Raiton atm.

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did what exactly Sasuke did with channeling raiton. It's plausible to say he can stream raiton on his hands, instead of a weapon.

 

[Apêx1]

Refer to your previous post. You said he would "use him from the get go" because it's his favorite puppet.

Not that this argument isn't already stupid, I hate ones where people argue that someone just isn't going to use a move and the other person is going to be throwing everything they got at them.

I meant it as in he would drop Hiruko so that he can use Satetsu after analysing Bee's fighting style, given he has a 5 in intelligence in the DB. Anyways, a 4.5 speed was given to Sasuke when he was Hebi, which was practically fast enough to fight head to head with Bee (only dodging v1 blitz with Sharingan). Sasori has the same 4.5 speed as Sasuke, so I fail to see why people put him as someone who can be blitzed with relative ease (he never was blitzed, only reason Sakura smashed Hiruko was because Chiyo manipulated his tail through chakra strings). So even in Hiruko, he's not being raped, especially when Bee won't even know he's still alive after he smashes him.

And it's completely irrelevant whether you like such arguments or not. Fact remains that no one starts off with a BM transformation followed by a TBB against an opponent they have no intel on. Even Kankuro didn't know him until he heard his name, and he's a puppet master. Sasori on the other hand, can use any one of his 298 human puppets. Given we have no intel on 296 of them, Satetsu will always follow Hiruko. Considering his intelligence is a 5, he can analyse the situation and react accordingly. If VS debates worked like how you and others here are trying to make them out to be, then debates would be biased given they don't take into account intelligence and fighting style.

 

[DrProof]

Bee "blitzes" Sasori.. But then this happens:

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Then Sasori does what he does, and wrecks.

 

[Bronze]

The guy who lost to Shippuden Sakura and Chiyo, has no hope of beating Bee.

Scenario 1 ends with Bijuu Dama bombarding him, and scenario 2 ends with Lariat flattening him.

 

[Zexion~]

Lets not forget that, his Instant BD was avoided by a whole team Taka on foot .-.

 

[NarutoX28]

Refer to your previous post. You said he would "use him from the get go" because it's his favorite puppet.

Not that this argument isn't already stupid, I hate ones where people argue that someone just isn't going to use a move and the other person is going to be throwing everything they got at them.

He would certainly do so after analyzing Bee's Kenjutsu and realize anything involving Close Combat would be idiotic. After all, you're literally talking about one of the Akatsuki members who devised a plan to infiltrate the Village of the Sand. That's pretty damn impressive.

 

[Bronze]

Lets not forget that, his Instant BD was avoided by a whole team Taka on foot .-.

Using Suigetsu as protection.

 

[Zexion~]

Using Suigetsu as protection.

It blew right by him,

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[Bronze]

It blew right by him,

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It blew straight through him.

-''Waah!!''

-His water body splashing.

 

[Zexion~]

It blew straight through him.

-''Waah!!''

-His water body splashing.

What is the....

Whatever :lol

 

[Bronze]

What is the....

Whatever :lol

You said the Bijuu Dama blew right by him, meaning it passed next to him without physical contact. Suigetsu shouting ''Waah!!'' and his body splashing indicates it didn't blew right by him but straight through him. Therefore, he was covering Taka and that's how they survived. Not by ''avoided it by foot''.

 

[Zexion~]

You said the Bijuu Dama blew right by him, meaning it passed next to him without physical contact. Suigetsu shouting ''Waah!!'' and his body splashing indicates it didn't blew right by him but straight through him. Therefore, he was covering Taka and that's how they survived. Not by ''avoided it by foot''.

It clearly busted right through him though, so how the hell does that prove anything? The blast still continued after it didn't even slow it down. So yes they did.

 

[Bronze]

It clearly busted right through him though, so how the hell does that prove anything? The blast still continued after it didn't even slow it down. So yes they did.

How could they avoid it on foot if they still remained on the same area that exploded? [X

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Suigetsu blocked the explosion.

 

[Imperious]

Didn't I already neg this Thread ;-; ?

 

[Lord Tywin]

Bee "blitzes" Sasori.. But then this happens:

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Then Sasori does what he does, and wrecks.

Did you ignore what happened next?