Killer Bee vs. Might Guy

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Did I say it cant be evaded. It can't be matched or countered with Taijutsu. So 7 swords dance >>> base guys taijutsu. Guy isn't e brightest of the bunch either, he may go in thinking he can counter it, but then fail and get sliced.

And there isn't actually evidence of Itachi evading anything.
Did I say you said so? No I replied he can evade it so there's no point

Lol that doesn't even make any sense. He may go ahead thinking he can counter it is terrible reasoning when everyone know what's at hand here. To make things worse, the intel is full so stop with this reasoning...Not to mention it doesn't take a genius to realize that you need to wait for a counter attack.

Itachi evaded
 

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Killer Bee beats him with V2 only.

The CQC is at Bee's advantage. His reflex and interception could counter Hiraishin without Intel. Gai doesn't have anything that can bypass an instantaneous teleportation, unless he's using the 8th Gates, which he isn't in this match-up. He is more or less as fast as Ay, given that he was equal to him in V1 together. With simple scaling to V2, they're equal. Thus, Bee has the speed to also keep up with 7th Gate, and potentially faster than him. And then the durability of Bijuu cloak, easily could take everything Gai throws.

Bee is overall stronger: Equivalent physical speed, better reflex and could back himself up with Ink Clones. He wins mid difficulty.
 

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Did I say you said so? No I replied he can evade it so there's no point

Lol that doesn't even make any sense. He may go ahead thinking he can counter it is terrible reasoning when everyone know what's at hand here. To make things worse, the intel is full so stop with this reasoning...Not to mention it doesn't take a genius to realize that you need to wait for a counter attack.

Itachi evaded
yeah my bad, i didn't know intel was full.

I never saw those panels of itachi to be honest. I guess he really is just that much better than sasuke. Youd think after sasuke getting sliced once, he'd back off.

So then, what can base guy do against base killer bee, if he is forced to evade the entire time? Not forgetting that Killer bee can use his tentacles for more reach and surprise attacks. He managed to catch itachi, if not for genjutsu, that was gg. His tentacles can actually go underground and catch an opponent unaware.
 

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yeah my bad, i didn't know intel was full.

I never saw those panels of itachi to be honest. I guess he really is just that much better than sasuke. Youd think after sasuke getting sliced once, he'd back off.

So then, what can base guy do against base killer bee, if he is forced to evade the entire time? Not forgetting that Killer bee can use his tentacles for more reach and surprise attacks. He managed to catch itachi, if not for genjutsu, that was gg. His tentacles can actually go underground and catch an opponent unaware.

Killer B throws his swords when he fails to strike ---------> --------->

Gai dodges it. Tentacles aren't helping when they all come from the same directions..Not to mention Killer B never used his tentacles in his 7 swords dance he spins when he does it so no tentacles involved. If you're bringing Tentacles into it, then Gai goes 6G and wrecks.
 

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Killer B throws his swords when he fails to strike ---------> --------->

Gai dodges it. Tentacles aren't helping when they all come from the same directions..Not to mention Killer B never used his tentacles in his 7 swords dance he spins when he does it so no tentacles involved. If you're bringing Tentacles into it, then Gai goes 6G and wrecks.
Him combining tentacles into his 7 swords dance was actually something I saw him do against itachi in the anime, if I recall. It's not impossible and makes perfect sense, if the enemy continues to run all day.

And now you're resorting to 6g just because I said he can use tentacles lol. Bee uses tentacles as part of his base moveset, so not sure what the problem is. You were acting before as if Guy can go aginst bees swords dance in base, yer you've said nothing that base guy can use to fight bee. Point is Guy cannot beat bee in base.

He doesn't even need tentacles, Bee still wins in cqc. How else can Guy fight bee when he has no jutsu or ranged attack in base. Even 30% kisame beat base guy in cqc low diff
 
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Him combining tentacles into his 7 swords dance was actually something I saw him do against itachi in the anime, if I recall. It's not impossible and makes perfect sense, if the enemy continues to run all day.
Don't care, that's the anime so it's not applicable here. When he does it in the Manga, then it becomes applicable...Common sense says if the enemy evades it all day, you resort to another strategy. I've already shown how he resorted to throwing his weapons when they were evaded by a sick opponent...Nothing more to it.


And now you're resorting to 6g just because I said he can use tentacles lol. Bee uses tentacles as part of his base moveset, so not sure what the problem is. You were acting before as if Guy can go aginst bees swords dance in base, yer you've said nothing that base guy can use to fight bee. Point is Guy cannot beat bee in base.
Is this a joke ore you're actually trying to be serious?...You initially said Base Bee so you in no way have a right to tell me I'm bringing in the Gates...@bold, it's partially transformation which isn't part of his Base..Using the 8tails tentacles is him resorting to the 8 tails power since his Base doesn't have a tail as well as the fact that he's using the 8 Tails there.

The underline is what usually irritates me...First, you have no proof that he can use his tentacles as part of his Sword dance since you haven't shown anything suggesting so except the anime..Second of all, that's no longer his Base since it's a partial transformation. Thirdly, I've explained how Gai can evade and wait for a counter attacks...Lastly, if he can use the tails, Gai can use the Gates.

He doesn't even need tentacles, Bee still wins in cqc. How else can Guy fight bee when he has no jutsu or ranged attack in base. Even 30% kisame beat base guy in cqc low diff
Nonsense...Base B gets his attacks evaded in a CQC by Gai and eventually loses unless he resorts to other things like transformations and Ninjutsu which then qualifies the Gates. Even Kisame beat the hell out of Bee in his V1 state despite having distraction like Ponta to aid B and he didn't break a sweat..Not to mention the fact that you have no proof on your side that 30 percent Kisame can't beat Base B when his full powered state wrecked V1 B who's way stronger. Lastly, War Arc Gai >>>> Early Shippuden Gai based on feats with Obito.
 
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Lol, wait for counter attacks. What counter attacks? There is no opening with 7 swords dance. The fact you think guy can accomplish something that two sharingan users couldn't is laughable. The best guy can do is run. You have no argument, hoping for counter attacks isn't an argument. Counter with what? He certainly can't use his fists, he'll get sliced. Nunchucks? Bee will cut them in half with his lighting infused swords. Bee can continously spin without leaving any openings, something Guy has absolutely no way to combat in base.

What's funny is that you actually think Guy can evade all day (and find a counter), He doesn't have the sharingan, not is his base speed super incredible. Bee is also extremely fast, he can keep up and apply pressure on Guy just fine. Sasuke couldn't even get away, Itachi could only back off and was forced to flee upon Nagato's summon. Both skilled sharingan users and speedsters, who have way better precog and perception plus reactions than base Guy. Bee isn't going to need to resort to any other tactic, his swords dance will peg Guy.

I won't mention tentacles again, don't worry, you don't need to cry about it. It really isn't that big a deal since bee doesn't need it. Comparing tentacles to 6th gate XD

Kisame didn't beat the hell out of v1 state. What manga are you reading. Samehada was absorbing all his v1 chakra, to the point that it grew so big and was able to parry bees attack. But bee was never "beaten the hell out of". Stop exaggerating.

1. Bee head butted Kisame in v1, and samehada absorbed it.
2. Samehada grew so much bigger, and then parried Bee's lunge and shaved off more chakra.
Samehada is the only reason Bee couldn't harm him properly.

Yet at 30% Kisame completely flattened base Guy, made him bleed and sent him soaring to the bottom of the lake. At just "30%. Bee whose base strength itself is comparable to Kisame will also flatten Guy. In fact Bee has Samehada as well, so even easier.

Be quiet, guy has no feats that put his base greater than war arc. He countered Obito, yeah so? Guy also blocked kisame, but it was strength that overpowered Guy, not skill, or taijutsu, that's why Guy lost out. Nothing Guy did against obito was anything he couldn't already do.
 

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Lol, wait for counter attacks. What counter attacks? There is no opening with 7 swords dance. The fact you think guy can accomplish something that two sharingan users couldn't is laughable. The best guy can do is run. You have no argument, hoping for counter attacks isn't an argument. Counter with what? He certainly can't use his fists, he'll get sliced. Nunchucks? Bee will cut them in half with his lighting infused swords. Bee can continously spin without leaving any openings, something Guy has absolutely no way to combat in base.
You lack common sense.

- The more B attacks with a Spin, the more Gai evades like Itachi easily did

- Once B realizes his spin is evaded, he resorts throwing his swords like I showed..That's easily evaded with Gai's reflexes so using 2 sharingan users that are inferior isn't saving your argument.

- The more B throws his swords, the more they reduce in number.

Once again you're here showing your stupidity? Gai evades the attack as he has full intel...He doesn't have to attack and B cannot do that all day long unless you're stupid enough to believe that.

What's funny is that you actually think Guy can evade all day (and find a counter), He doesn't have the sharingan, not is his base speed super incredible. Bee is also extremely fast, he can keep up and apply pressure on Guy just fine. Sasuke couldn't even get away, Itachi could only back off and was forced to flee upon Nagato's summon. Both skilled sharingan users and speedsters, who have way better precog and perception plus reactions than base Guy. Bee isn't going to need to resort to any other tactic, his swords dance will peg Guy.
What's funny is that you're dumber that I actually thought especially with the bold.

He evaded being touched by Obito despite already attacking ..Meanwhile Minato got touched after attacking . Only a clown would be arguing about how Gai cannot evade the 7 swords dance when the Uchihas did...His speed is a 5 out of 5 and an extremely weak Sasuke with a 4.5 did so...Think before speaking.

One again, Gai evades the sword dance and his stamina is a 5 out of 5...B definitely would try to throw his swords at him or resort to another tactic.

@theunderline Pitiful excuses you have there....Main point is they were avoided and that's all.


I won't mention tentacles again, don't worry, you don't need to cry about it. It really isn't that big a deal since bee doesn't need it. Comparing tentacles to 6th gate XD
What a moron...Well what's expected when your arguments don't go along with the Manga...Tentacles increases his range as well as the fact that he's resorting to the 8 tails which isn't his Base power but rather an assist to his Base.

Kisame didn't beat the hell out of v1 state. What manga are you reading. Samehada was absorbing all his v1 chakra, to the point that it grew so big and was able to parry bees attack. But bee was never "beaten the hell out of". Stop exaggerating.
Look like we're not reading the same Manga..Kisame:

- Reacted to him
- Matched his headbutt
- Swung him around
- B had people to distract Kisame but yet couldn't put him down
- B said Samehada was too fast
- Gai was only punched and battled Kisame on top water which gives him the Geographical advantage.

Nice try with your weak comparison

1. Bee head butted Kisame in v1, and samehada absorbed it.
2. Samehada grew so much bigger, and then parried Bee's lunge and shaved off more chakra.
Samehada is the only reason Bee couldn't harm him properly.
Lol with this rubbish...your arguments become terrible when you think of the fact that Gai also had to deal with Samehada.

Yet at 30% Kisame completely flattened base Guy, made him bleed and sent him soaring to the bottom of the lake. At just "30%. Bee whose base strength itself is comparable to Kisame will also flatten Guy. In fact Bee has Samehada as well, so even easier.
So? B cannot use Samehada and sword dance at the same time..Gai already battled Samehada as well as the fact that there's nothing suggesting B can wield Samehada as well as Kisame can.

Be quiet, guy has no feats that put his base greater than war arc. He countered Obito, yeah so? Guy also blocked kisame, but it was strength that overpowered Guy, not skill, or taijutsu, that's why Guy lost out. Nothing Guy did against obito was anything he couldn't already do.
Well coming from you it this nonsense shouldn't be to surprising. Reacting to Obito twice clearly puts his War arc feats above his early Shippuden since we never had in mind that he could do so.

What you're saying is equivalent to "Gai can't improve because he should have had that before" Dumb to the core.

Main point of the argument was Gai being able to evade his sword dance, yet you're bringing all sorts and saying I'm the one resorting to something else...This isn't Base Gai vs Base Bee which you're trying to run to Lol.
 
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Why do Minato fans hate Might Guy?
Lmaoo you noticed right?? Ever since 7G Gai vs Minato...Gai became their Number 1 enemy cuz we proved them wrong multiple times and they saw Gai as a Major threat to their precious Minato. They basically thought Minato stomps Gai but they received a shocker.
 
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Did I say you said so? No I replied he can evade it so there's no point

Lol that doesn't even make any sense. He may go ahead thinking he can counter it is terrible reasoning when everyone know what's at hand here. To make things worse, the intel is full so stop with this reasoning...Not to mention it doesn't take a genius to realize that you need to wait for a counter attack.

Itachi evaded
He retreated just like sasuke did. Basically he didn't give bee the chance to land the "bee strike". The tech works by first throwing your movement and timing off, then strikes when you least expect. Itachi was smart to get the fuq away when he did instead of trying to counter attack and risk getting fatally wounded.
 

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Lmaoo you noticed right?? Ever since 7G Gai vs Minato...Gai became their Number 1 enemy cuz we proved them wrong multiple times and they saw Gai as a Major threat to their precious Minato. They basically thought Minato stomps Gai but they received a shocker.
Ah, right. I remember reading that thread. Tbh I thought about that matchup before and thought that Minato would win, but I revised my opinion afterwards
 
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He retreated just like sasuke did. Basically he didn't give bee the chance to land the "bee strike". The tech works by first throwing your movement and timing off, then strikes when you least expect. Itachi was smart to get the fuq away when he did instead of trying to counter attack and risk getting fatally wounded.
Yeah but considering he avoided being touched, I'm sure Gai easily dodges it as well. Don't see that touching someone of Gai's calibre..It would only catch him off guard if he decides to attack which we he won't be doing against that stance.
 

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Guy stands no chance once Bee transforms to full hachibi

--his gated attacks are tanked without much damage, especially when the hachibi has shown to tank his own TBB (sommething thats well above AT and MP) so guy has no way whatsoever of hurting him

--once he uses his big guns, or the instant he runs out of gates, bee blows him up with a Bijuu Wave or a TBB, he cant evade them and he certainly cant tank them, so he dies,

 
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Guy stands no chance once Bee transforms to full hachibi

--his gated attacks are tanked without much damage, especially when the hachibi has shown to tank his own TBB (sommething thats well above AT and MP) so guy has no way whatsoever of hurting him

--once he uses his big guns, or the instant he runs out of gates, bee blows him up with a Bijuu Wave or a TBB, he cant evade them and he certainly cant tank them, so he dies,

Gai punches his eyes out.
 

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looool

Why there be arguement of base gai vs base bee. Anyine with brain know it impossible for gai to win. Like already said, 30 pervectn if kisame > base guy loool
Don't embarrass yourself by not reading properly, no one is making an argument for Base Gai vs Base B..it's evading his sword dance that's being discussed #readfirst.

2- When you can prove that Base B stands a Chance against 30 precent Kisame, then you'll be worth replying.
 
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Don't embarrass yourself by not reading properly, no one is making an argument for Base Gai vs Base B..it's evading his sword dance that's being discussed #readfirst.

2- When you can prove that Base B stands a Chance against 30 precent Kisame, then you'll be worth replying.
Dont need to be prove anything. Base bee strength > v2 ei strength, enough to send ei flying . V2 ei strength >>>> kisame

Base guy strength no where near the level of ay, bee or kisame. Stip comparing fodder 30% kisame and base bee to base guy.

cant combat sword dance, then he cant win, simple. Sharingan user can just barely to evade, yet yout hink base guy same calibre lol.
 
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