Ephemeral + totsuka is a viable combo, in fact any genjutsu immediately followed up by the sword is viable. & Ama still works on gyuki which is bee's only way to kill itachi w/o outlasting.
Yeah then itachi should be able to manage this.
[VS] Killer Bee vs Itachi
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That's why I said genjutsu is his only chance. I don't see why the bijuus chakra wouldn't heal Bee if he's hit with Tsukuyomi. Bee can easily shed his chakra cloak to counter Amaterasu. Totsuka's best feat is cutting orochimaru's hydra, but I doubt it's as fast as Bee.
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Well you did say that tsuku was the only threat so I didn't know you were referring to all genjutsu. :lol
& Yeah V1/V2 can counter ama, but ama is for gyuki & I doubt that bee can revert to his base form then shed it before it does enough damage to him & itachi follows up.
Totsuka doesn't have great feats but that's simply because of it's limited showings. I for one believe that the sword is at least as powerful as the form of susanoo that's wielding it, & since kisame w/ samehada could
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then a superior weapon should also have that ability at the very least.As for gyuki breaking him out of genjutsu, it's debatable whether tsukuyomi would actually trap him for an extended period but I'm not using it as a game finisher here. It would be used to paralyze bee for a moment which allows itachi to land hits on him w/ totsuka.
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Bee did revert back his face pretty fast here. I don't see why he shouldn't be able to do it to the other parts.
Not sure if totsuka can pierce him though. Orochimaru's Kusanagi couldn't pierce a v2 jin, and totsuka was said to be a variant. So I'm not sure if it can pierce him.
I see it as Gyuuki being able to heal Bee after he's hit with Tsukuyomi. He's constantly receiving chakra and it should heal his brain, given that Tsunade was able to heal kakashi and sasuke with a touch. I doubt it'll give Itachi a window big enough to give him an advantage.
I think Bee's best choice is to not use BM here given that he's vulnerable to amaterasu, and is an easier target for totsuka. He's best bet is to keep using v1 and v2 and try to outlast Itachi by making him use susanoo constantly.
Yeah but itachi is also aware of bee's partial transformation so he'd make sure to try & act quickly after he uses his jutsu.
Fair enough regarding V2, but even so it should still do damage considering susanoo's hand tore azura path apart. V1 is definitely getting pierced though.
We've seen what regular genjutsu does to bee, he's been frozen by both itachi & sasuke. It may not do significant damage if gyuki can in fact heal bee [a feat only displayed by kurama] but it will for sure provide an opportunity for itachi to finish it considering he knows bee is a PJ & can get chakra from his bijuu.
Bee only has lariats in V1/2, & using them would be a bad idea considering it's extremely linear. Itachi's susanoo has the speed to manifest before bee gets close enough & as it tanks the strike bee is in a bad position. Itachi can use ama to force bee to shed the cloak then immediately follow up w/ totsuka, he can beat him down w/ his susanoo hands & swords if totsuka can't pierce V2, or if you believe susanoo is slow [actually has
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speed feats] itachi can paralyze him first, since he'd be point blank.& If we take a look at bee's lariat it follows a similar pattern to raikiri/chidori. That jutsu was incomplete because you need the sharingan in order to defend against counterattacks, which makes sense considering it'd be hard to dodge while moving fast in a forward motion. Basically what I'm saying is that once bee lariats into susanoo he's going to be vulnerable, just like ay/3rd raikage were in similar situations while using a similar jutsu.
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Agreed
Don't know man. Asura limbs were pretty fodder. Even Mei tanked a punch from Madara's legged susanoo.
Bee got out of Sasuke's genjutsu pretty fast. Sasuke hit him with genjutsu, turne his head around, and ate a lariat. It won't give him a wide enough window unless Itachi uses genjutsu as a distraction.
Bee still can use his swords in v1. Bee's also fast enough to cover a distance this big in base [
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] He'd have no problem dodging anything susanoo can throw at him. Or he can simply tank whatever it has to offer.Itachi doesn't have feats regarding utilizing enton like Sasuke does. Raikage's only problem was enton. Susanoo's attacks are simply dodged.