Killer Bee vs Itachi

Who wins

  • Killer Bee

    Votes: 18 38.3%
  • Itachi

    Votes: 29 61.7%

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KidGamer65

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His sight is affected by the disease, so there's the first instance of his reflexes diminishing.

FTG and Susanoo are different since they operate at instant speed. He could activate Susanoo/FTG 0.000000000000001 seconds before the impact and he would still survive.

lol? What? His sight is like that because of MS's side effects. Not because of the disease.

The user still needs to give his input to activate those things in time. If you don't have the reflexes to react to a lighting bolt coming at you with the mental command to activate Susanoo, then you are going to get hit.
 

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I'm sorry, are you implying a young person and a grandpa have the same reflexes?

Can reflexes not be trained?

Reflexes -are- physical. They are related to the senses ( sight, hearing, tactile, smell ) and those senses diminish the less you use them and the more you age.

They can be trained, but using them isn't actually physical is it? It's how quick your brain processes the situation and allows your body to react in time.
 

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If you don't have the reflexes to react to a lighting bolt coming at you with the mental command to activate Susanoo, then you are going to get hit.

How can you not have the reflexes to put up Susanoo when Susanoo is instant? Give FTG to Hiruzen, he could dodge Ay too. It's instant, instant will always beat extremely fast.

It's how quick your brain processes the situation and allows your body to react in time.

Synaps speed. Which decays with lack of usage ( TV, looking at walls ), age and physical condition. It's why a sick person is slower to react, both physically and verbally. His nervous system is under duress.
 

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I may consider sigging that.

Synaps speed. Which decays with lack of usage ( TV, looking at walls ), age and physical condition. It's why a sick person is slower to react, both physically and verbally. His nervous system is under duress.

Do note, I never mentioned anything concerning Itachi's reflexes when I originally posted. All I said was, reflexes aren't physical.
 
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How can you not have the reflexes to put up Susanoo when Susanoo is instant? Give FTG to Hiruzen, he could dodge Ay too. It's instant, instant will always beat extremely fast.

Susanoo's activation is instant. FTG's teleportation is instant. Them giving the command to activate it is NOT instant. The user still needs to give his input to use these techniques.

If Hiruzen can't activate FTG in time due to having insufficient reflexes, then he gets killed by Ay regardless of whether he can teleport or not. That's why Minato's reflexes are also praised along side his FTG.
 

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:leaf: how is Itachi's reflexes being called bad,

I don't give two shits if he missed the trap after doing this is basically proving he has insane physical reaction's


as for a mental feat he put up Susano'o before lightning stuck, aka meaning he was quicker then lightning :|
 

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Its not like it'll matter since Amaterasu would have burnt him up already, just as fast as Danzo got burnt up in the scan I posted. Amaterasu does NOT burn slow, if you have that idea in your head then I suggest you get it out.



From fire jutsus, not all jutsus and definitely not Amaterasu. It tanking a Katon isn't going to let it tank the infinitely stronger Amaterasu, moot point.



That's nice and all, but as seen with the Danzo scan, B would either be severely damaged (Misisng limbs) or completely turned to ash before he ever managed to do this.

Not to mention Itachi can follow up with another Amaterasu just like he did against Sasuke.




So no, Itachi won't be wide open as the manga clearly shows, B pushes the first one of his body and the second one kills him. Not to mention Itachi will be using a lesser amount of Amaterasu than used on that fireball and on Sasuke.

Is the bold referring to when the skeleton comes out of his cloak? Cause that won't push off the flame, it will just have it catch on fire as well. Not to mention Amaterasu burns too fast for that.



Read above. Itachi has used two consecutive Amaterasu's before and he still has his motor skills available to him, he can evade B in his cloaked forms as he attacks via linear movements and Sasuke (who is slower and has inferior reactions) was able to do so. He isn't wide open for shit.


Dodging is one thing. Completely reverting from Bijuu Mode to dodge what he thinks is just an overgrown sword? Yeah right pal.

Clearly we don't read the same manga. If he went to such lengths to dodge simple times, he would never have been hit in this manga, at all.


He can't do anything about it even if he wanted to.



Is this a joke? If B in any form bar his Bijuu form engages Susanoo in CQC, he gets smashed without effort, especially if he's in his V1 form, to say he'll "knock it around like its nothing" is a stupid thing to say.

lol @ this underground tentacle trick. Sharingan can see chakra through hindrances so he'd see that coming before it ever emerged from the ground. Not to mention pre cog allows him to evade it even when in Susanoo. If he tries this in Bijuu Mode all Itachi needs to do is cut his tentacle at the source rendering this attack ineffective.

The only times V2 Jins have used Bijuu Dama is when their Bijuu has been in complete control. You are going to need a scan of him being able to do so in V2 mode.


1. "Its levels to this shit" if you haven't noticed! V1 is the first counter to Ama', V2 is the next counter to a follow up Ama! BM is another counter with Fient! Basically Itachi wasted a shit load of chakra on a move that did nothing! lmao
Itachi I know would never ever do such a retarded tactic! I mean its the dumbest shit you can do, it didnt work teh first time, why use it right after knowing it could possibly not work again. You are horrible defending itachi, you never keep him in character like every other itachi supporter (but a few) on this site.

2. You assume it wouldnt tank Ama' when there is nothing to suggest it wouldnt protect him even if for 5 seconds. And with Bee he can continuously pump more chakra to protect him from ama and WIth V2 BLOW IT OFF COMPLETELY! Let it go, i countered that lame as Ama' argument for forever! From now on if any one even thinks otherwise they can come back to this thread! Deal with it!

3. Lmao you do know Danzou had Izanagi right?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? As in the "fake" thing that happened never happened. Where did it show danzou being burnt to a crisp asap???? Do you even know what danzou was doing in that fight or how Izanagi works???? Lets go off manga facts while i destroy your thoughts:

Bee:
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Karin:
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Juubi:
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Aye:
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Sasuke:
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And sasuke left his body and left only the shredded skin btw


Nagato:
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And last but not least the most important survivor... The Random Fodder Samurai:
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Damn that was so instantly burnt to a crisp... Oh wait he didnt! Bee literally didnt die and only left with burnt marks to the back!

Aye literally fought With the flames on him no problem!
Nagato with his skinny handicap body only lost a arm and he was burning for forever it would seem! lmao
If a fodder Samurai with samurai armor survived when entire body got hit! He was burning for a longggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg time! And survived by taking off his armour.... You do the math... Dont be retarded!

Owned any and All Ama arguments! With manga facts and feats! Deal with it!

Bee owns him in susanoo or not. He will be too fast for those slow ass punches and or sword swings! Period!

Bee with ink clones will force Itachi into susanoo or he loses asap! Simple! And he cannot stay in susanoo forever let alone switch between all stages asap. Bee goes into BM faster then itachi can put up V4/5 with totsuka blade. How will itachi deal with the whirl wind or Endless TBB????? Are you that slow to think he can last forever with no side effects when sasuke a younger fresher uchiha felt pain/chakra loss every single time! Sasuke stamina/chakra>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Itachis on any day!


SO basically i just owned your entire argument! And you keep repeating the same Bs over and over while Bee destroys any argument you can put up!

According to your retard strategy; after 2 failed Ama's he will be able to fight like its nothing... -___- When he will easily get hit with a Lariat ASAP just like sasuke!!! And if you say "he'll use susanoo" no he will not! If sasuke lost his Ms ability temporarily after susanoo and 1 Ama' then itachi will lose it ASAP No question! Equals a wide open itachi:

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After 2 Ama's this is what itachi looks like basically (and even if its a portion of this, he will be in pain)



And please Shut the hell up about itachi Blocking Kirin!
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Sasuke literally told him when it was coming and what it does and everything like a dumbass! Instead of just Using it ASAP! Itachi had all day to get ready to tank Kirin.. That isnt anything to bragg about!

Minato having no warning or time to think and still reacted and FTG out the way is something to brag about! That is great no questioned reaction speed! Ill break it down further:

Itachi had atleast 2 minutes and had the tech explained to him then pointed towards him (sharingan predicts body movement btw, so he knew when to put susanoo up. lmmfao)

Minato had no time or warning! And reacted and set himself up for a counter attack! That is light years reaction speed above itachi and sasuke put together!!! lmao Deal with it!

And Itachi using V1 susanoo to protect sasuke is nothing to brag about when it was obv kabuto was going after sasuke:
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Useless feat to bring up when itachi literally knew what he had on his mind (fact)!

and right here he was fast enough to use V1 but not V2+ to protect himself and his brother:

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Basically you overestimate your lord itachi and all uchihas like always. That's why im on this site! To put you "fans" in your place! =P

then ! So ill hit you with the same retard logic:
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And all the BIFF (Best Internet Friends Forever) need to get off Kidgamers Tip! I know you guys love each other and are real friends in real life (better be.lol), but help him with proof and logic. Do not tip Ride like all you Extra Friendly Kids do on this site! LMAo
 

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Aww man Draegod you dont know how bad I want to shit on your post bro!
#turn up
 

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Aww man Draegod you dont know how bad I want to shit on your post bro!
#turn up

Brooooooo!!!!

You need to help him badly! But we need to see what he says next first. PM/VM me if you have something.

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You guys talk mad shit.
 

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Narutobase isn't the ghetto, please debate with proper English spelling and grammar.
 

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Narutobase isn't the ghetto, please debate with proper English spelling and grammar.

What does "The Ghetto" have to do with anything?

This is a Internet site; and there are no rules on what you can do or say. Racist PPl like you are what makes me sick, bringing up something that has nothing to do with anything.
 

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Ha, didn't think people would actually take that seriously. I was saying that I see a certain someone posting with horrendous wording.

Also, calling me a racist when I specified the ghetto makes no sense.
 

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Lmao, who does this guy think he is. Not only was this a shameful comment; but it's completely irrelevant and unnecessary.

Exactly! It shows the type of person he is. He probably thinks he is above certain ppl. smh
 

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Well, if you guys think that Grammar police are offensive, then I have nothing more to say.

Also Forbidden, you did insane in week one of the fantasy league.
 

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Ha, didn't think people would actually take that seriously. I was saying that I see a certain someone posting with horrendous wording.

Also, calling me a racist when I specified the ghetto makes no sense.

I see "smart" and "regular" ppl play around with grammar over the internet all the time. Does that make them "ghetto" just because of grammar? Listen to yourself for a second Kid..

No need to Be Ignorant for no reason and even use the Term "Ghetto", knowing there are African Americans on the site and thread you did it on purpose. Just because you are "cool" with Black/Hispanic folks doesn't mean you cannot be ignorant and racist. SMH

Stay in your Lane and mind your business next time!
 
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