Killer Bee vs Itachi

[PretaPath]

He suffered from a deadly Sickness

And what? Do you realize "normal" Itachi is actually Itachi with his sickness? That's the way he is and he has always been this way. You can't use the "what if" argument in this debate.

 

[PretaPath]

Well , If this is the Normal "sick" Itachi , then he loses.
Healthy Itachi will win.

There's no such thing as healthy Itachi, you don't know what he's capable of, you don't know what he would be like if he wasn't sick.
Although you can say that Prime Itachi exists. This is Itachi during his fight against Sasuke, but he was sick.

 

[Dubbuoo]

Trying to play philosophical huh? This role doesn't suit you ,especially because you don't make any sense. Rofl.
Because i'm pointing out negative sides of someone does that necesssarely means I am what I accuse the other to be? Think about that for a sec, then come back to me kid

you don't get it do you???

of course when you're angry, anger tends to cloud one's judgement and perspective of things

"I suggest you follow the debate before you say even more crap". this is the statement you made towards me.

now this whole time, you're the hot headed guy going around saying crap to others, but somehow im the one saying crap???

im done here

this is what MubiOxx replied to counter your theories

Genjutsu is not Useless , even if Bee can escape , He will get hurt. , Tsukyomi will surely Kill him.
How can TBB shatter susanoo ? The Yata mirror reflect almost every attack.
Amaterasu , Dodged ? Please....

If Bee transformes , He will get Amaterasued or sealed.
If he stays is base , He will get owned by Susanoo , the same thing would happen to V2 Bee.

 

[PretaPath]

Amatersu is apart of itachis kekki genkai

Samheda sword isnt apart of bee natural arsnel

itachi>bee

It doesn't matter, he earned it, therefore it's his property.

Bee > Itachi.

 

[PretaPath]

Healthy Itachi is basically Normal Itachi but with Better chakra reserves , better Reflexes and Can defeat Killer bee.

Nothing proves it therefore your argument is invalid

 

[PretaPath]

you don't get it do you???

of course when you're angry, anger tends to cloud one's judgement and perspective of things

"I suggest you follow the debate before you say even more crap". this is the statement you made towards me.

now this whole time, you're the hot headed guy going around saying crap to others, but somehow im the one saying crap???

im done here

this is what MubiOxx replied to counter your theories

Haha, i'm not even gonna reply to this. You're not worth my time

Didn't you say you were done here like 20 minutes ago? Kids contradict themselves so much nowaday.

 

[PretaPath]

no

that guy is trolling.


he is trying to say that amatersu isnt apart of itachis arnsal .

the op didnt say killer bee had kisame sword.

so he say "the op didnt say itachi had amatersu"

but itachi has amatersu no matter what.

Then Killer Bee has samehada, it's part of his arsenal. As simple as that, quit playing this one sided game will you? You sound like a desperate fanboy to me.

 

[PretaPath]

a single Amaterasu is enough for Bee.

Didn't you already admit Bee > Itachi?

I said you don't know and we will never know what an healthy Itachi was capable of. He was never healthy so you can't say he was, as simple as that.

 

[Dubbuoo]

Nothing proves it therefore your argument is invalid

EDO itachi should give you a fair idea of how itachi, without the conditions he was in, performed

 

[PretaPath]

Samehada is not in Bee's arsenal , He can lose it , but Itachi can't lose Amaterasu.
That's really a stupid Logic.

Does Bee have samehada right now? Does he have it?

 

[PretaPath]

EDO itachi should give you a fair idea of how itachi, without the conditions he was in, performed

It doesn't prove anything, Edo Itachi means he can use his MS as much as he likes without going blind, it also means he can't die nor run out of chakra. It definitely has nothing to do with being healthy.

You're acting like Samehada will do anything , He'll still get owned.

Too late fanboy you've already admitted being wrong. And you were right.. about being wrong.
Bee stomps

 

[PretaPath]

Actually ,Everything you said is "Bee stomps" without Giving any arguments + you didn't counter my arguments.

I did counter them.
I said genjutsu was useless.
Bee is clearly fast enough to dodge amaterasu or he can absorbs it with Samehada.
Then he would toy around with Itachi's susanoo, breaking it with his lariat.
When Itachi's out of chakra he would simply go full Hachibi and TBB him in the face.
Stomp.

 

[Dubbuoo]

It doesn't prove anything, Edo Itachi means he can use his MS as much as he likes without going blind, it also means he can't die nor run out of chakra. It definitely has nothing to do with being healthy.




Too late fanboy you've already admitted being wrong. And you were right.. about being wrong.
Bee stomps

well how does bee progress from a discussion on itachi's condition???

sick or not, in his fight with sasuke he managed to

use genjutsu consecutively

tsukuyomi sasuke

forgot how many times katon was used

ameterasu the surrounding of the uchiha hideout

tank kirin with susanoo rib cage

(virtually blind) activate full susanoo

seal orochimaru

install amaterasu only to be activated at the sight of obito's sharingan

im not sure why "sick itachi" would give bee a slight advantage

 

[PretaPath]

Tsukyomi is not Useless , It's 1 hit K.O.
V2 Raikage barely Dodged Amaterasu , Bee can't just "Dodge it". , Samehada had troubled absorbing Fire-based Jutsu , and here we're talking about a fire which is Hotter than the sun , Samehada is not absorbing Amaterasu.
-Lariat ? Smash the ultimate defence ? Please... Totsuka will pierce through bee like Butter.
-Bee in base , and v2 Bee are not enough to deal with The Yata mirror and Totsuka sword , and if he transforms , he will get burned or Sealed.
Let's not forget that Itachi was keeping up with bee in Taijutsu and almost Got him into an Illusion if Naruto didn't warn him to not look into his eyes.
Just give up.

Bee has already shown himself being able to break out of tsukuyomi, try again
Barely? Well you clearly don't read the manga, he dodged it without breaking a sweat. Dodging it as V2 bee would be child play.
Do the mats: Raikage piercing through Sasuke's susanoo and owned him. later in the manga they confronted each other and it was shown that Bee's lariat was stronger than A's. Itachi will get destroyed.
Susanoo has weak spots, he just have to hit spots where the shield isn't protecting him.
Bee is a professional taijutsu user, he outplayed Sasuke's in sword play and totally owned him. Both, Sasuke and Itachi are sharingan user, Itachi will get owned the same way.
How about you give up?

 

[UchihaInza]

Itachi would scrape and hes the smarter ninja :itachi:

 

[obscoral]

half blind itachi roflstomps over bee while having a cup of tea

 

[genii96]

Okay,first of all
killer b is NOT breaking out of itachi's tsukiyomi,it takes one second to complete it's purpose,it would take more than that for hachibi to break bee out,so tsukiyomi is a one hit KO on bee if it hits. Sasuke's genjutsu is much much weaker than itachi's own,so please do ot compare them at all.

Bee reacted to minato's ftg as well as amaterase,IIRC he used a tentacle to block it,though he still got burned. He reacted to v2 A as well,while in base,however,not saying he is in the league of A in speed,but definately in his leage in reaction and reflexes. Also,in v2 mode,the chakta around him is the hachibi's own,which is powerful enough to block the ama flames if it hits,basically,the ama flames will hit the shroud instead of bee,and he will be fine,sasuke's amaterasu flames failed to burn through the chakra of gaara's sand,itachi's own wont burn through the chakra of the v2 shroud as well.

In a taijutsu/kenjutsu fight,bee is superior,and whuile itachi can hold his own against km naruto in a taijutsu match,bee is a different story and iIRC he pushed back itachi in base when he faced him.

Bee also has ink clones,capable of doing hachibi transformations as well,and can be a good distraction while bee preps biju bomb in his v2,also while in full susanoo,itachi's mobility is reduced,allowing bee to attack from blindspots more easily.

Healthy or not,it's still ms he has,and chakra drain will be severe as well as body pains.

For these reasons i'd say bee wins high diff.

 

[NarutoIndra]

Itachi wins high diff. He would have to keep turning Susano'o on every time a TBB comes at him, and he would eventually suffer the side effects. Other than that one tsukoyomi/amateratsu and the fight is likely over.

 

[genii96]

Itachi wins high diff. He would have to keep turning Susano'o on every time a TBB comes at him, and he would eventually suffer the side effects. Other than that one tsukoyomi/amateratsu and the fight is likely over.

his susanoo can't tank a tbb

 

[NarutoIndra]

his susanoo can't tank a tbb

No Susano'o can't tank a TBB from 6-9 tails, not even Madara's can take on Gyuki's TBB let alone a continous TBB. Itachi's is different though, he wields the Yata Mirror which would just Nullify a Continous TBB from Kurama, with the disadvantage of being pushed back 20 meters.