“i said STILL INTACT key word here. since u apparently think anyone whos not hidan will have their body parts blown off”
This doesn’t proof your point in “tanking”. Bad example: Konan: Are you ok Nagato? Nagato: I am fine I. my legs “tanked” the explosion.
Konan: But Nagato your legs are completely damage and you can’t walk anymore. Nagato: I know but I still “tanked” it.
“there were dozens, so gg.”
You haven’t showed me legitimate tank. The user has to be fully mobilized, now since you said dozen, I would only ask for 3 more.
“distance what distance? can you read the manga please.”
I did read it and I ALSO read the next page. Chiyo said she used it to blow herself away from the explosion. That is not even proof she put the bomb next to her body and was okay. Plus Chiyo replied that this was reckless thing to do, why would she say that knowing the risking of the explosion? Since we both can’t fully see what she did inside the gas, I would make a logical conclusion that she plant it so where she can be pushed away from the gas. Going by Chiyo’s comment to support me.
“hurrdurr wrong scan but you helped me anyway by being desperate to try and counter that random instance.”
Lol no, what Part of tanking do you not understand. Gaara use sand to tank not his own flesh. I’m NOT making an argument that “Neji’s Rotation can tank Raesengan” I am arguing that “Neji’s body can’t handle it. IN fact I take that back, Nagato’s scans was closer the Gaara. But both did not Tank it and is okay.
“my arguments fallible? your the one saying shit like hidan can survive an attack that blow up mountains based on a few times of him tanking a tiny ass bomb that every day noob genin have in ther possession. get real. and no one got hit directly by paper bombs except hidan and obito? i dont know what youre on.”
No one tanked bombs and was okay. (I had a bigger explanation but I lost it so imma paraphrase most of them =( ). And Obito didn’t tank btw he Izanagi out Nor was he fine.
“yeah, his weak ass fire jutsu still scarred his body massively and asuma tanked it easy. so your immortal body bs is ruined.”
Show me "massively". Show me where Hidan has lost mobility after tanking, and then show me lack of stamina after. You also have Kakuzu’s wind jutsu too to explain too, unless you come down to everything becomes noobed to prove yourself “right”.
“how is that irrelevant?! tailed beast balls do THIS and make short work of MOUNTAINS:”
I was never comparing the size of the jutsu or which is which is better that is why I said this is irrelevant. They both blow **** up. TBB has a better radius. You ask me who can blow up mountains like that: I will answer Deidara and Konan. Still off-topic.
“while every single noob genin has craploads of paper bombs. hey thats a good idea, let's just throw a barrage of paper bombs at the juubi! why are they using tailed beast balls, their so useless since suigetsus water body was blasted aside by it. lets just use some paper bombs to beat it.”
Putting words in my mouth so you sound like you are right. Okay now lets get back on topic.
“if you believe hidan can take an attack that leaves no trace of entire mountain ranges after being hit by them, JUST because hidan tanked a tiny ass EXPLOSIVE TAG and STILL takes visible damage from attacks then your an idiot. how does kisame tank a PAPER BOMB? the same way he tanked hirudora WITHOUT samehada, like a boss.”
Kisame reduce hirudora’s attack with great shark bullet. No reduced damage= hirudora does more damage of course. Plus that is not enough to prove Kisame tanking a paper bomb on him. The heat and pressure is enough to destroy his body that is more concentrated then a reduced air pressure punch.
“seriously wtf are you on? you must really love hidan to back him up this hardcore. hidan has BETTER DURABILITY than KISAME? yeah i love where u actually backed this up with proof. Lol”
Picture one shows him tanking a reduce damage hirudora. Please elaborate on this proof Kisames Durability better? Hidan I has actually tank a ninjutsu head on (Intense Wind Pressure) But was perfectly fine.
Picture two only proves Kisames Strength. I never argued that Hidan was “Stronger then Kisame. This picture had no significant.
“your proof that hidan "cant possibly be damaged by any attack that doesnt cut or pierce" is just because he tanked a couple noob paper bombs and cant die even when his heads cut off. nice logic there. got anything else to back it up, didnt think so.”
Then please enlighten me on what a noob paper bomb is compare to a regular paper bomb. Not only did he tank explosions he also tank Intense Wind Pressure from Kakuzu. At least he won’t be laying on the ground like Kisame tanking a Reduce hit from Hirudora. Plus you mentioning him getting cut off shows you that he needs to be decapitated in order to no longer right. Think of it as a rock, paper, scissor. Hidan has feats (as paper) to tank blast and explosions (rock) but not be able to do anything that can decapitate him (scissor).
Also the picture of Shiki almost decapitating Hidan doesn’t prove he nothing. Playing dead is different then fighting 1v1. Hidan can play dead to Bee and do the same thing, if he wanted.
“yeah, i guess he totally survives a taijutsu battle with B the walking train wreck of razors with raiton chakra and 7 blades and the entire hachibi, because hidan's head was easily almost cut in 2 by some noob with a 2 in strength with a basic steel sword..”
Show me where I stated of Hidan charging in and just decide to walking train Bee? Show me where Hidan even fights like that. Oh god, I understand you don’t like Hidan but at least know what you are talking about, giving him false characteristic. Asuma has 4/5 strength dumbaz. And read up what what his Chakra Sword is, which you made another false accusation and characteristics, this is sad. Please bring back a professional approach before you mentally start sprouting everything “noob”. You are clearly showing you ignorance.
“your point wasnt proven by far your spouting horse shit. why does he take damage from attacks in the first place if tailed beast balls leave no trace of mountains behind.”
Because Hidan is immortal and has feats the tanked blasts before and was fine. Let me clearly this and I was also clarify this again in the end of my post. WE BOTH cannot PROVE or DisPROVE that Hidan can Tank TBB. We can both only make a logical conclusion whatever he can or not, since the manga has never SHOWN him Doing or NOT . This is why I brought feats of Tanking Intense wind pressure and Explosions. By Tanking the blast of this things and was fine, mobilized, stamina was still perfected. Then I CAN come a Conclusion that he can Take Blast from TBB. Also Sueigetsu had experience of taking the Blast from TBB, with his unique body type. Why can’t I make a logical conclusion that Hidan’s immortal was able to do it, which provided feats that MAY BE POSSIBLE.
hidans head was cut through effort-lessly by a tiny steel sword by shikamaru, get out of here. not to mention that but hidan couldnt even react to that attack from behind, like hell react to bee whos far faster.
Paper beats Scissors, I’m going to use this analogy for now on. Also faking your death doesn’t support your argument. Bee did the same to Sasuke when he turned around after hitting him with Genjutsu, does that mean Sasuke is slow, by your logic?
in before u try to back up hidans speed by comparing kakashi easily fighting hidan off WITH A KUNAI and fighting equally with asuma. guess what, hidan has 3.5 in speed and sasuke treated a fellow 4.5 like fodder. bee has done this:”
Trust me I never going to back up hidan’s speed. Go ahead and read the stats on Asuma’s speed. This doesn’t help your argument since Asuma Speed>Hidan (you will understand until you look up Asuma’s stats. And since you brought up the fight with Kakashi let me bring this up. Shikimaru already plan the whole battle out and how to deafeat Zombies. Shikimaru gave Kakashi knowledge on Hidan so Hidan cannot trick Kakashi. Shikimaru made sure TO NERF Hidan and ruin his Kenjutsu style.
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If you don’t understand what just happened. Shiki used a kunai with+ explosive tag. Shiki nows that this kind of “scissor” would be able to decapitates him. Hidan is force to block it, since piercing and exploding can decapitate. This is clearly an Advantage in this battle since Shiki ruined Hidan’s main fighting style, By destroying the rope first. Hidan cannot fight like he did with Asuma to Kakashi. NOW, about the part where you said Kakashi was keeping up. It was NEVER Hidan’s attention to fight Kakashi head on and take blood from him YET (Notice I said YET).
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Hidan informs Kakuzu to do the “usual”. Meaning they had a trick up their sleeve to use (Which you can see):
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But this is not the case in this vs thread.
“cuz he ACTUALLY TAKES DAMAGE FROM ATTACKs, so much for an "immortal body that can SURVIVE BEING HIT BY AN ATTACK THAT DESTROYS MOUNTAINS if a tiny sword does damage to his body.
Rock, Paper, Scissors. Hidan has feats tanking Rock.
and guess what? Bee took a giant sword that made a giant crater in the earth by blocking it WITH HIS ARM, hidan would be cut through by butter. your logics not looking too good”
Hidan doesn’t fight like Suiegetsu, Hidan way of fighting doesn’t try to plumber down his opponent to death . his style is to keep distance and find openings with his own style to draw blood. Hidan has his own type of weapon. It wasn’t design to wreck things out with sheer force:
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My logic consistent unlike yours so far.
“yeah because this was said in the manga where? lol, its really really obvious your desperate. this was never said anywhere, u mean to tell me the wires CUT hidan to death and the bombs did nothing? shit, whyam i taking this seriously? i should have not even responded the first time you said hidan could actually survive tailed beast balls.”
It seems that I actually wrote what I meant wrong. Let me explained it better because it seemed like my sentence did sound like the explosion did nothing (sew me it was late and I was tired, I don’t attack you with your incomplete sentence/ spelling) . Anyway, What the Wires did was Strapped Hidan where it helded his body where he cannot move at all. Similar to what Sasuke did to orochimaru in part one, without using explosions.
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The SFX is really important to read. Metal wires helps with deception, thus explosions makes him decapitate. I already showed you scans that he can’t tank anything “scissor”. Hidan had to block the kunai do he won’t get pierce from it like in the scan I will show you in the bottom. If it pirece and explose this still counter has “scissor” support.
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“how is it relevant because they have different fighting styls? HMM LETS SEE, suigetsu made a HUGE CRATER and B BLOCKED IT WITH HIS ARM NO DAMAGE. where has hidan ever caused that much damage with just his scythe? he hasnt? then good luck trying to scratch B.”
I explained about Hidan’s fighting style already, So re read above.
“i hope your not offended by my caps, im trying to getmy point across since you love ignoring.”
I know your not. You are trying to offended me only with insults, both of them don’t phase me nor do I need to flame back and forth, I simply here to have a debate that is all.
“well there sure as hells a doubt in MY mind, maybe not your clouded mind but for the rest of us with coherence and not in denial were going to need something that backs up what u say. & i'm underestimating hidan when he gets cut up by regular swords on a regular basis yet mountain buster tailed beast balls wont do shit to him. this guy right here”.
It’s okay to disagree you don’t see Hidan’s feats dangerous at all nor understand them. You ARE clearly underestimating Hidan, you are a liar lol. You don’t understand his feats and also find them useless, so useless to even consider him even being an Akatsuki memeber. You are also making a conclusion that Bee takes this “S-rank”, “Akatsuki member”, with no difficulty at all.
I am going by Paper>Rock>Scissor analogy that is why I see him tanking it.
“that thread was retarded, it just proves to me now that your desperate enough to make a giant thread with false proof scans to back up hidan like he would ever stand a chance in the world. and your counters EMBARRASS mine? let me point out that youre the one who just said you stand corrected on points and were actually proved wrong and b stomps with knowledge. so youre almost there but still in denial by far.”
Best laugh of the year to Mr. I don’t underestimate Hidan. The threads purpose was to show you his strength completely analyzed. You failed to look at it as something that makes Hidan “beats all”. You still haven’t proved how someone PHYSICALLY tank and explosions and came out perfectly fine. So I still stand corrected.
“says the guy who thinks hidan can survive tailed beast balls or a taijutsu battle with spinning raiton charged bee who takes giant sword slashes to his bare base body with 0 damage and therefore hidan would be able to draw blood.”
I have the right to make that conclusion by his immoral feats. Where did I claim of him charging to win again? Where talking about Hidan right? The one also also had to fight smart when against the 2-tailed Cat? And where did I state the Hidan can’t tank “scissor” without any damage? Of course he is going to bleed out But it just doesn’t matter to Hidan to ash you have seen in the MANGA. Let me elaborate on what I have mention. Bee 7-style is to attack from unorthodox directions. Hidan needs to keep his distance, like he Did with fighting Asuma chakra sword, while evening 5 shadow stitches from Shikimaru. Bee is bound to be open. Bee was confident that after using his final tech of 7-style on Sasuke, throwing like 6 unto Sasuke to finish him off. Sasuke can no longer fight in this position, Hidan can. With no knowledge, pulling that stunt puts Bee open for a SCRATCH. Since Hidan can be sneaky with his attacks:
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“so does shikamaru, and let me post that image again so you see what happened:”
Oh for real? Shikmaru tank TBB, when? So you circle Suigetsu getting hit by TBB at point blank. While Moutains get destroy. Therefore Suigetsu didn’t live because the Moutains didn’t? I don’t get it please elaborate.
“guess what, as yo ucan see that bijuu dama took 1/2 second to charge. the one before that put the entire citys size to shit.
and to top it off? the v2 bijuu cloak with only 6 tails tanked the entire hit. so hidan scratch it?
please. i like how you killed your argument even worse now lol, continuing this argument isnt a good idea for you, thinks are just looking worse and worse.”
Hidan Scratching TBB huh??? And how is it getting worst? You are showing that TBB is losing more feats of people tanking. So far Suigetsu, 6 tails, and full 8 tails, has tanked TBB without them being “MOUTAIN BLAST AWAY”.
This post conclusion: I like how you continue to insult me simply because I not bandwagoning on the favored side. That is pretty sad. You don’t see me attacking you for having garra as you avatar. That is bad character and logic. I could just go and say that “Since you are debating on Killer Bee side for this fight I am going to conclude that you like his tentacles inside you, there is no other explanation to go with Bee.” If I go defending any other character that doesn’t make me or you or me a fanboy.
I decided to go with Hidan because he was design by Kisi to be able to fight jinkurki’s regardless the difficulties. SINCE we BOTH CAN’T PROVE that Hidan TANKS TBB and NOT Disintegrate, I can only simply use a logically conclusion and why I think he can. Hidan’s fighting-style can hold on the Bee devastating Kenjutsu, he needs to keep his distance and find in opening, just like fighting the 2nd tail cat and ASUMA w/ Shikimaru 5 shadow stitches back stabing him. With his 5 Stamina he can endure and will be able to scratch.
