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And how? It's easy to say something, but it's another thing to back it up.


Again how?



And again how? If Bee goes full hachibi then he's just a big easy target for amaterasu.


Yea because there's evidence he can tank amaterasu right?
Other than bijuu cloaks having ridiculous durability and KB's speed completely outclassing Sasuke's?

Yea because Sasuke can't dodge it while flying :rolleyes:
Lol dodge ? He gets vaporized.

Yea that's laughable.
In your opinion

You sure like to talk a lot without providing any evidence to back up your claims.
Didn't feel the need to, figured what Bee's done in the manga was common sense and when I said "bijuu dama" you'd understand which technique I meant. And when I said Bee's speed easily outclasses Sasuke I figured you'd naturally agree since it's proven and obvious in the manga. But I guess not
 

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Other than bijuu cloaks having ridiculous durability and KB's speed completely outclassing Sasuke's?



Lol dodge ? He gets vaporized.
:rofl: Lol, why are you showing him the same pic all the time? :rofl: :rofl:
 

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And this is one of the reasons I shouldn't even be wasting my time with you. If Bee enters his full hachibi mode then he just becomes a big target for amaterasu or susanoo arrows, which Sasuke can easily get off before Bee can use his tbb since it takes time gather the chakra.

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Other than bijuu cloaks having ridiculous durability and KB's speed completely outclassing Sasuke's?
And that means nothing considering you're comparing the kyuubi's cloak to the hachibi's when the difference in power is huge. Again you've show no evidence that proves Bee can tank amaterasu, so unless you have some then I suggest you simply stop talking.

And the speed is meaningless if he can't get by Sasuke's defences.



Lol dodge ? He gets vaporized.
You speak as if Sasuke will stand right in front of Bee when the tbb is used.


Didn't feel the need to, figured what Bee's done in the manga was common sense and when I said "bijuu dama" you'd understand which technique I meant. And when I said Bee's speed easily outclasses Sasuke I figured you'd naturally agree since it's proven and obvious in the manga. But I guess not
And you have ZERO proof that a tbb from the hachibi would bust a full susanoo and as I said Sasuke can easily use amaterasu on Bee before he ever gets the chance to use a tbb.

I also never said Sasuke was faster than Bee. It's blantanly obvious Bee's faster, but that is meaningless if you can't get by your opponents defences.

I also forgot to mention genjutsu. Sasuke's genjutsu paralyzed Bee for at least a couple of seconds as shown here.

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That would give Sasuke the opening to hit him with amaterasu or susanoo arrows and kill him.
 
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And this is one of the reasons I shouldn't even be wasting my time with you. If Bee enters his full hachibi mode then he just becomes a big target for amaterasu or susanoo arrows, which Sasuke can easily get off before Bee can use his tbb since it takes time gather the chakra
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Implying Sasuke can use Amaterasu when a mountain busting bijuu dama is being launched in his face? Bee isn't even visible beyond the huge AoE of the blast.
>takes time to gather chakra
>that one was uncharged and launched in no time at all

And that means nothing considering you're comparing the kyuubi's cloak to the hachibi's when the difference in power is huge. Again you've show no evidence that proves Bee can tank amaterasu, so unless you have some then I suggest you simply stop talking.
8 tails>>>>>>>>4 and 6.
I would give proof but you'd dismiss it as bullshit without even clicking the links like usual lol
And the speed is meaningless if he can't get by Sasuke's defences.
Vice versa, Sasuke's tech are useless if he can't hit KB.
You speak as if Sasuke will stand right in front of Bee when the tbb is used.
Proof you didn't even read the chapter in which Bee used his bijuu dama. completely dwarfs Sasuke and his hawk.

And you have ZERO proof that a tbb from the hachibi would bust a full susanoo and as I said Sasuke can easily use amaterasu on Bee before he ever gets the chance to use a tbb.
My proof is bijuu dama from 2-5 tails destroyed a mountain each. 8 tails Bijuu Dama? Yeahh....meanwhile, Tsunade's punches were breaking through Madara's susano'o. Where's your proof of Sasuke's Susano'o from protecting from every direction and being superior to a mountain buster or multiple of them? Oh wait you don't have any because there isn't any because Sasuke dies.

I also never said Sasuke was faster than Bee. It's blantanly obvious Bee's faster, but that is meaningless if you can't get by your opponents defences.
Except where he can and where Sasuke can't hurt him either
I also forgot to mention genjutsu. Sasuke's genjutsu paralyzed Bee for at least a couple of seconds as shown here.

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That would give Sasuke the opening to hit him with amaterasu or susanoo arrows and kill him.
Way to completely ignore what happened on the very next page bro.
 

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Implying Sasuke can use Amaterasu when a mountain busting bijuu dama is being launched in his face? Bee isn't even visible beyond the huge AoE of the blast.
>takes time to gather chakra
>that one was uncharged and launched in no time at all
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What does it look like Bee's doing? That's right gathering chakra for the bijuu bomb, which took "Time"


8 tails>>>>>>>>4 and 6.
I would give proof but you'd dismiss it as bullshit without even clicking the links like usual lol
Vice versa, Sasuke's tech are useless if he can't hit KB.
The hachibi only has the chakra cloak when used in V2 mode and Naruto's kyuubi V2 mode was a hell of a lot more powerful than Bee's. Bee was screaming in agony when hit by amaterasu in full hachibi mode. And you've still presented me with ZERO proof that Bee can tank amaterasu.

Proof you didn't even read the chapter in which Bee used his bijuu dama. completely dwarfs Sasuke and his hawk.
And once again you don't get it. Sasuke could easily fly out of Bee's range before it's even used. Try reading.

My proof is bijuu dama from 2-5 tails destroyed a mountain each. 8 tails Bijuu Dama? Yeahh....meanwhile, Tsunade's punches were breaking through Madara's susano'o. Where's your proof of Sasuke's Susano'o from protecting from every direction and being superior to a mountain buster or multiple of them? Oh wait you don't have any because there isn't any because Sasuke dies.
That hardly qualifies as proof. Try a scan, databook or character statement. As for Tsunade's punch it destroyed a ribcage susanoo, so you fail yet again. I never said I had proof that it wouldn't because I honestly don't know, but I don't believe I need to present it since I'm not the one who stated Bee's tbb could destroy a full susanoo, that was you thus the burden of presenting proof falls on you.

Except where he can and where Sasuke can't hurt him either
With what a bijuu bomb? Lol is that your only argument? Because if it is it's a pretty weak one. For one to use its full power he needs to enter full hachibi mode and secondly that just makes him a huge target for amaterasu/susanoo arrows. He's already been hit by amaterasu once, so I can confidently say Sasuke can do it again.

Way to completely ignore what happened on the very next page bro.
Way to completely ignore what I said. The scan was to show that Bee was paralyzed for at least a "couple of seconds", which would give Sasuke an opening to kill him with amaterasu or susanoo arrows.

Please bring a better argument than bijuu bomb this or bijuu bomb that.
 
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What does it look like Bee's doing? That's right gathering chakra for the bijuu bomb, which took "Time"
Implying a non charged bijuu dama wouldn't take less time and that Bee needs to make it
The hachibi only has the chakra cloak when used in V2 mode and Naruto's kyuubi V2 mode was a hell of a lot more powerful than Bee's. Bee was screaming in agony when hit by amaterasu in full hachibi mode. And you've still presented me with ZERO proof that Bee can tank amaterasu.
Implying I should provide proof when you think the number 4 is stronger than 8 for some reason

And once again you don't get it. Sasuke could easily fly out of Bee's range before it's even used. Try reading.
Lol what the ****? Way to ignore the bijuu dama scan buddy, you expect me to want to waste my time to get any other scans when you ignore them entirely and dismiss them as shit? He moves out of the way, Gyuki turns in his direction. GG.
That hardly qualifies as proof. Try a scan, databook or character statement. As for Tsunade's punch it destroyed a ribcage susanoo, so you fail yet again. I never said I had proof that it wouldn't because I honestly don't know, but I don't believe I need to present it since I'm not the one who stated Bee's tbb could destroy a full susanoo, that was you thus the burden of presenting proof falls on you.
uhhh wat
"Hurr, this obviously happened in the manga but you're going to have to waste your time to find the scan everyone knows exists or else it didn't happen." Ok you go

Tsunade's punch in which a bijuu dama is hundreds of times more powerful than? I'm ok with an incomplete version.
With what a bijuu bomb? Lol is that your only argument? Because if it is it's a pretty weak one. For one to use its full power he needs to enter full hachibi mode and secondly that just makes him a huge target for amaterasu/susanoo arrows. He's already been hit by amaterasu once, so I can confidently say Sasuke can do it again.
Uhh, well a bijuu dama works just fine and you haven't given shit proof in terms of Sasuke's defence that he's surviving a mountain buster. So it works just fine. Killer Bee will survive an Amaterasu, so even if Sasuke fires one, he still dies via Bijuu Dama so it's fine he can take it. Where's your proof that Sasuke can tank a mountain buster? Oh wait, he can't. He dies.
Way to completely ignore what I said. The scan was to show that Bee was paralyzed for at least a "couple of seconds", which would give Sasuke an opening to kill him with amaterasu or susanoo arrows.
Bullshit I ignored what you said.
Please bring a better argument than bijuu bomb this or bijuu bomb that.
Why, because it works, Sasuke dies and he has no counter for it, and there's no way you'll admit Sasuke loses? You realize Bijuu Dama kills Sasuke so by all means you must forbid anyone for using it in an argument! Please no!

So basically tl;dr feats that suggest Sasuke's susano'o taking on a mountain busting bijuu dama or gtfo
 

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Implying a non charged bijuu dama wouldn't take less time and that Bee needs to make it
And that can easily be dodged by Sasuke since it's simply compressed in a small ball, which isn't very difficult to avoid.

Implying I should provide proof when you think the number 4 is stronger than 8 for some reason
The proof is in the manga. Naruto's V2 kyuubi mode proved far more powerful than Bee's. I'm not saying it's more powerful than Bee's full hachibi mode, only his V2 mode. The kyuubi is MUCH MUCH more powerful than the hachibi.

Lol what the ****? Way to ignore the bijuu dama scan buddy, you expect me to want to waste my time to get any other scans when you ignore them entirely and dismiss them as shit? He moves out of the way, Gyuki turns in his direction. GG.
*Sigh* you simply don't get it and that's quite sad.

uhhh wat
"Hurr, this obviously happened in the manga but you're going to have to waste your time to find the scan everyone knows exists or else it didn't happen." Ok you go


Tsunade's punch in which a bijuu dama is hundreds of times more powerful than? I'm ok with an incomplete version.
I mean proof that Bee's bijuu bomb can bust susanoo. Do you have a scan of it doing so, a character saying it can or the databook saying it can? That's proof, not it busting moutains so it can bust a full susanoo. As I said that's hardly proof.

And once again it was an incomplete version, so you fail yet again. Just stop talkin now.

Uhh, well a bijuu dama works just fine and you haven't given shit proof in terms of Sasuke's defence that he's surviving a mountain buster. So it works just fine. Killer Bee will survive an Amaterasu, so even if Sasuke fires one, he still dies via Bijuu Dama so it's fine he can take it. Where's your proof that Sasuke can tank a mountain buster? Oh wait, he can't. He dies.
Lol he can take it? Do you read the manga or are you just downright ignorant that you don't get it?

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What's this? Oh that's right Bee screaming in agony from amaterasu. He's definitely not firing a bijuu bomb like that. Your logic fails as does your argument.

Bullshit I ignored what you said.
And you're just proving more and more to me how much of a joke you are. I know Bee can break the genjutsu, but what DON'T you get about it paralyizng him for a couple of seconds? He clearly even said he couldn't move and fell to the ground, which means he was paralyzed for a few seconds. That easily gives Sasuke the opening to kill Bee through amaterasu or susanoo arrows.

Why, because it works, Sasuke dies and he has no counter for it, and there's no way you'll admit Sasuke loses? You realize Bijuu Dama kills Sasuke so by all means you must forbid anyone for using it in an argument! Please no!

So basically tl;dr feats that suggest Sasuke's susano'o taking on a mountain busting bijuu dama or gtfo
Actually no because the funny thing is if Bee goes full hachibi to use bijuu bomb then he'll simply get one shotted by amaterasu. Sasuke already demonstrated this during his fight with Bee.

And you've yet to provide me with any proof that a bijuu bomb from Bee will bust a full susanoo. Until you do you're simply wasting my time.

Besides even if he can't tank it he can easily summon his hawk and keep his distance from Bee, so he won't be hit by Bee's bijuu bomb. Sasuke can then proceed to just spam amaterasu and susanoo arrows at him. All he needs is for Bee to be in his line of vision to use amaterasu, so as long as he can still see him then he can still use it.



Anyway I'm done with you.
 
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And that can easily be dodged by Sasuke since it's simply compressed in a small ball, which isn't very difficult to avoid.



The proof is in the manga. Naruto's V2 kyuubi mode proved far more powerful than Bee's. I'm not saying it's more powerful than Bee's full hachibi mode, only his V2 mode. The kyuubi is MUCH MUCH more powerful than the hachibi.



*Sigh* you simply don't get it and that's quite sad.



I mean proof that Bee's bijuu bomb can bust susanoo. Do you have a scan of it doing so, a character saying it can or the databook saying it can? That's proof, not it busting moutains so it can bust a full susanoo. As I said that's hardly proof.

And once again it was an incomplete version, so you fail yet again. Just stop talkin now.



Lol he can take it? Do you read the manga or are you just downright ignorant that you don't get it?

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What's this? Oh that's right Bee screaming in agony from amaterasu. He's definitely not firing a bijuu bomb like that. Your logic fails as does your argument.



And you're just proving more and more to me how much of a joke you are. I know Bee can break the genjutsu, but what DON'T you get about it paralyizng him for a couple of seconds? He clearly even said he couldn't move and fell to the ground, which means he was paralyzed for a few seconds. That easily gives Sasuke the opening to kill Bee through amaterasu or susanoo arrows.



Actually no because the funny thing is if Bee goes full hachibi to use bijuu bomb then he'll simply get one shotted by amaterasu. Sasuke already demonstrated this during his fight with Bee.

And you've yet to provide me with any proof that a bijuu bomb from Bee will bust a full susanoo. Until you do you're simply wasting my time.

Besides even if he can't tank it he can easily summon his hawk and keep his distance from Bee, so he won't be hit by Bee's bijuu bomb. Sasuke can then proceed to just spam amaterasu and susanoo arrows at him. All he needs is for Bee to be in his line of vision to use amaterasu, so as long as he can still see him then he can still use it.



Anyway I'm done with you.
Nice lack of proof and ignoring my scans. Compressed ball? The hell? Way to ignore it dwarfing Gyuki and Unraikyo. Sasuke's not dodging shit.

That's quite the outlier, because every other time Amaterasu was used nothing happened whatsoever other than someone's clothes barely burned through. Hardly burned through Samurai armor and Nagato and Karin's clothes.And guess what happened? Killer Bee survived. So Sasuke dies, KB is hit with Amaterasu but survives. No big deal. Assuming Sasuke ever gets the chance...but still.

Thanks for giving absolutely 0 proof that Sasuke can do shit to survive a bijuu dama, I guess you forgot its destructive power and are avoiding it because you realize Bee wins now and Sasuke has no way to defend against it. I understand bro, it's all good. But if you're going to post any more it's best to provide proof Sasuke's Susano'o can do anything at all vs the bijuu dama or else there's no point in even bothering
 

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oh come one, now that sasuke can use his MS jutsu properly then i don't see any problem why he can't beat bee this time
Coz he got owned last time. Sasuke maybe improved but that doesn't mean it's enough. It's like saying that Sasuke when he was 8 wasn't capable to beat Itachi, but cuz he improved since then, he was able to beat Sasuke at 13?
 

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Coz he got owned last time. Sasuke maybe improved but that doesn't mean it's enough. It's like saying that Sasuke when he was 8 wasn't capable to beat Itachi, but cuz he improved since then, he was able to beat Sasuke at 13?
Regardless if he got owned by Bee. He lost most of his powers that he obtained from Orochimaru and he was still injured from his final battle with Itachi. The lack of experience is another factor to take in. I'm not saying Bee lost to Sasuke. But Bee's chances against Sasuke are pretty slim, if they actually fight.
 

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I can agree with you on some of the stuff but grest ninjas find a way to adept to situations and having sameheda will drastically change this battle because susanoo will be eaten instantly and with all of that chakra he could spam tbb in v2 plus having like 6 or seven tails flying behind you yea i dont think sasuke can handle all of that
 

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Coz he got owned last time. Sasuke maybe improved but that doesn't mean it's enough. It's like saying that Sasuke when he was 8 wasn't capable to beat Itachi, but cuz he improved since then, he was able to beat Sasuke at 13?
wrong comparison is wrong,now that both user have info for each other tech, the better and smart fighter will win,

sasuke can use susano'o to protect himself from bee v2 attack, and bee have nothing against that unless TBB which will required him to get into 8 tail mode or use TBB in v2 mode

but both take time and when he did that he need to stay still guess what coming from sasuke ?, susano'o arrow imbued with amaterasu **** yeah
 

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wrong comparison is wrong,now that both user have info for each other tech, the better and smart fighter will win,

sasuke can use susano'o to protect himself from bee v2 attack, and bee have nothing against that unless TBB which will required him to get into 8 tail mode or use TBB in v2 mode

but both take time and when he did that he need to stay still guess what coming from sasuke ?, susano'o arrow imbued with amaterasu **** yeah
I've already proved that Bee doesn't need to transform completely to beat Sasuke and his Susanoo
I don't know why people say Bee needs to go in full Hachibi mode to go through Susanoo. V2 is enough:
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And he has more destructiv power and speed in this mode. Even Sasuke say that:
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Sasuke won't last long.
 

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People say Sasuke has improved now but they overlook the fact that Bee has improved as well, Sasuke got EMS but Bee got Samehada, which can absorb Susanoo since it's chakra.

Anyway, I think the fight could go either way, though I give the edge to Bee.
 

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I've already proved that Bee doesn't need to transform completely to beat Sasuke and his Susanoo
that under ground attack is way to obvious, since bee need to put his hand to the ground and sasuke will notice that

and move himself from the attack point when the arms is about to appear, bee can try it again but sasuke will take advantage from bee stances while bee do that move and shoot the arrow,
 
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