Killer Bee could defeat EMS Sasuke

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This argument is going in circles cause you have a bad habit of ignoring evidence, pulling shit out of your ass to try and substantiate whatever nonsensical argument that pops into your mind. When we get down to the important stuff, your whole argument is:

"He didn't use PS off the bat, so he doesn't have it"

Lol.
No, it's going in circles because your bias is causing you to substantiate your claims with faulty logic and circumstantial evidence. I've already pointed out that your tengu nose/shoulder pads argument doesn't hold up beyond surface level scrutiny and you respond with bringing up some bullshit about scales. Are you kidding me?

Sasuke had every opportunity to make use of PS if he had it, in fact he had plenty of time to do so, and yet he didn't, because he didn't have it, but you're willing to go as far to assert that not only did Madara use PS off panel to fuse it with Kurama, Sasuke used PS for the first time whilst doing so - even though Kishimoto clearly makes an effort to show it off the first time he actually uses it. It's the most inane, intellectually dishonest argument I've seen around here for a while, and what makes it even more tragic is that believe you actually think it passes muster.
 

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No, it's going in circles because your bias is causing you to substantiate your claims with faulty logic and circumstantial evidence. I've already pointed out that your tengu nose/shoulder pads argument doesn't hold up beyond surface level scrutiny and you respond with bringing up some bullshit about scales. Are you kidding me?
Except you haven't proven that it doesn't hold as identifiers of a Perfect Susanoo. You decided not to directly reply to it, and instead go on about how the swords are different, even though at the end of the day that doesn't mean shit since no two Susanoo will ever look exactly the same, nor does that change the fact that only PS has shown to have Shoulder Guards and Tengu Noses. Pointing out one difference doesn't null my entire argument, especially when I never claimed that Madara and Sasuke's PS would be the same right down to the letter.

Sasuke had every opportunity to make use of PS if he had it, in fact he had plenty of time to do so, and yet he didn't, because he didn't have it, but you're willing to go as far to assert that not only did Madara use PS off panel to fuse it with Kurama, Sasuke used PS for the first time whilst doing so - even though Kishimoto clearly makes an effort to show it off the first time he actually uses it. It's the most inane, intellectually dishonest argument I've seen around here for a while, and what makes it even more tragic is that believe you actually think it passes muster.
Then we are back to this nonsensical argument, that since he didn't use it from the start, he doesn't have it, even though once again I have shown multiple examples on why that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

He did exactly what Sasuke did. I'm not seeing any kind of counter argument but the continuous whining about how my argument is invalid and holds no weight. You've claimed that he armored his unstabilized Susanoo onto Kurama, even though I've shown why that is dumb and makes no sense. You claim that he armored his unstabilized susanoo onto Kurama even though the Susanoo on Kurama, and the Susanoo shown before the explosion don't look anything alike, and instead the Susanoo armored onto Kurama greatly resembles his stabilized Perfect Susanoo....but hey, my argument is the one holds no weight here. :rolleyes:

Once again. Provide a real retort or stop replying. Its pretty sad that some people need everything in this manga broken down for them like its some kind of rocket science even though at the end of the day all you need to be able to do is READ to comprehend this information. I guess you can't read then.
 

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EMS Sasuke does not have PS. Only trolls disagree.
except that is not his ps .

you are the troll here.

OT. Even without ps sasuke beats bee handily.
his v1 and v2 are completely irrelevant near soosano and wont trouble sasuke, he moves in a linear fashion so if comes close sasuke can grab him with soosano fist and smash him, sasuke already tracked his cloaked movements, he also tracked juubito and tagged him, he uses legged v3 and proceeds to cut down bee with enton blade or soosano sword

bee has nothing to get through soosano except bijuu dama and once he transforms to do that amaterasu ignites him like it did in canon except this time sasuke wont cut off his tentacle(which gave bee an escape route, instead he uses enton and spreads the flames all over him effectively killing him.

sasuke shits on killer bee
 
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Why is it so hard to grasp that armoring something with Susanoo = Perfect?

Madara made it clear for us

He says it right here that this is perfect susanoo[ ]. Then says, not yet now stabilize[ ]

The same perfect Susanoo he does here[ ]. And then it stabilizes but this time on Kurama[ ]

It is clear that Sasuke has PS irrefutable[ ]
 
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Except you haven't proven that it doesn't hold as identifiers of a Perfect Susanoo. You decided not to directly reply to it, and instead go on about how the swords are different, even though at the end of the day that doesn't mean shit since no two Susanoo will ever look exactly the same, nor does that change the fact that only PS has shown to have Shoulder Guards and Tengu Noses. Pointing out one difference doesn't null my entire argument, especially when I never claimed that Madara and Sasuke's PS would be the same right down to the letter.
I didn't ignore it, I pointed out the obvious flaw in your logic. Not only is the evidence you provided flimsy, it isn't even consistent. That's hilarious.

Then we are back to this nonsensical argument, that since he didn't use it from the start, he doesn't have it, even though once again I have shown multiple examples on why that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

He did exactly what Sasuke did. I'm not seeing any kind of counter argument but the continuous whining about how my argument is invalid and holds no weight. You've claimed that he armored his unstabilized Susanoo onto Kurama, even though I've shown why that is dumb and makes no sense. You claim that he armored his unstabilized susanoo onto Kurama even though the Susanoo on Kurama, and the Susanoo shown before the explosion don't look anything alike, and instead the Susanoo armored onto Kurama greatly resembles his stabilized Perfect Susanoo....but hey, my argument is the one holds no weight here. :rolleyes:

Once again. Provide a real retort or stop replying. Its pretty sad that some people need everything in this manga broken down for them like its some kind of rocket science even though at the end of the day all you need to be able to do is READ to comprehend this information. I guess you can't read then.
They're nonsensical to you because they don't jive with your flawed logic. This isn't a matter of being obtuse in the face of obvious. You offer supposition and bias driven analysis of points you believe are connected but you can't back up anything you say with real evidence.

I never said Madara used an unstabilised Susanoo. I'm saying he used a stabilised, armoured full-body Susanoo, as is depicted in the manga.

My retort has been clear. You claimed Madara used PS off panel, but have no proof of that. You then claimed the tengu nose and shoulder pads are evidence of this but get asshurt when I point out that by that same token Sasuke's armoured Susanoo didn't match his PS.

In other words, your arguments aren't actually backed by an concrete evidence but purely speculation and inference.
 

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Why is it so hard to grasp that armoring something with Susanoo = Perfect?

Madara made it clear for us

He says it right here that this is perfect susanoo[ ]. Then says, not yet now stabilize[ ]

The same perfect Susanoo he does here[ ]. And then it stabilizes but this time on Kurama[ ]

It is clear that Sasuke has PS irrefutable[ ]
Lol, right. It literally can't get any simpler than it does with this post. It cannot.

I didn't ignore it, I pointed out the obvious flaw in your logic. Not only is the evidence you provided flimsy, it isn't even consistent. That's hilarious.
Except you didn't, cause like everything else you've posted, you don't make sense.


I never said Madara used an unstabilised Susanoo. I'm saying he used a stabilised, armoured full-body Susanoo, as is depicted in the manga.
See, now I know for a fact that you have absolutely no idea what the hell you are talking about.

Unstabilized Susanoo=The picture you posted. I.E. this in case all the BS you've spouted caused you to lose track.

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Stabilized Susanoo=Perfect Susanoo. They are the same exact thing, just referred to with different terms. So no, you claimed that he armored an unstabilized Susanoo onto Kurama, even though manga clearly shows that is false as the resulting armor on the Susanoo is the same armor on his Perfect Susanoo.

My retort has been clear. You claimed Madara used PS off panel, but have no proof of that.
Plenty of proof has been provided. Tengu Nose, the blades, and his shoulder guards are evidence as those things are traits of his Perfect Susanoo, not his unstabilized Susanoo. I'm still waiting for a real retort to that instead of "Sasuke's blades are different, so you're wrong" Not only does that shit not make sense, its nigh irrelevant.


You then claimed the tengu nose and shoulder pads are evidence of this but get asshurt when I point out that by that same token Sasuke's armoured Susanoo didn't match his PS.
Another thing that shows me you don't know what you are talking about. The Susanoo he put on Kurama was PS, how hard is that for you to understand? It not matching exactly doesn't mean shit when his Susanoo clearly got an upgrade when he got Hagoromo's power, and when they are still Samurai Blades in the first place, thus my overall point still stands.

I'm still waiting for a real retort to the fact that the Tengu Nose and the Shoulder Guards along with the Samurai Blades are traits of Perfect Susanoo and Perfect Susanoo alone, thus any variant of Susanoo that shows these is that person's Perfect Susanoo. Not that hard to grasp. If it looks like a duck, 99% of the time its a duck. Kids grasp this logic yet somehow you can't. Pretty sad.




In other words, your arguments aren't actually backed by an concrete evidence but purely speculation and inference.
Not really. I do know that your argument is pretty much backed by nothing at all, bar the stuff coming from your ass of course.
 
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lol kid gamer you are clearly wasting your time, anyone who still says Ems sasuke didnt have ps obv shouldnt be taken seriously, thats equivalent to indirectly telling kishi that you denied his fact and instead prefer your fan fiction.
 
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