Killer B gauntlet (cqc)

[LightningNinja]

Location: open field
Restrictions: Genjutsu and Ninjutsu.
Only Taijutsu and Kenjutsu are allowed.
Condtions: B is healed after every match.

1. Kisame
2. Base Gai with his nunchaku
3. Kcm Naruto
4. Edo Hiruzen with Enma
5. Edo Itachi with katana (can die by normal means).
6. War arc EMS Sasuke.
7. 3 tomoe Madara with his gunabi and scythe.
8. EMS Madara with gunabi and scythe.
9. SM Hashirama with his sword from Vote fight.

 

[Mellanoma]

Location: open field
Restrictions: Genjutsu and Ninjutsu.
Only Taijutsu and Kenjutsu are allowed.
Condtions: B is healed after every match.

1. Kisame
2. Base Gai with his nunchaku
3. Kcm Naruto
4. Edo Hiruzen with Enma
5. Edo Itachi with katana (can die by normal means).
6. War arc EMS Sasuke.
7. 3 tomoe Madara with his gunabi and scythe.
8. EMS Madara with gunabi and scythe.
9. SM Hashirama with his sword from Vote fight.

LOL no one in this series can beat Killer Bee's illogical fighting style without the use of jutsu.

 

[KidGamer65]

All of these people lose except for Hashirama and Madara.

-Madara is far faster than Taka Sasuke, physically superior and his Gunbai offers a great defense for B's Seven Swords Dance.
-Hashirama in Base can clash equally w/ Madara and Sage Mode greatly increases physical strength, speed and reactions.

EMS Sasuke and Edo Itachi also have a good chance of winning. An injured Sasuke was capable of clashing w/ B momentarily, and eMS Sasuke along w/ Edo Itachi are far above that Sasuke in speed, reactions and overall CQC ability.

The rest don't stand a chance.

 

[LightningNinja]

All of these people lose except for Hashirama and Madara.

-Madara is far faster than Taka Sasuke, physically superior and his Gunbai offers a great defense for B's Seven Swords Dance.
-Hashirama in Base can clash equally w/ Madara and Sage Mode greatly increases physical strength, speed and reactions.

EMS Sasuke and Edo Itachi also have a good chance of winning. An injured Sasuke was capable of clashing w/ B momentarily, and eMS Sasuke along w/ Edo Itachi are far above that Sasuke in speed, reactions and overall CQC ability.

The rest don't stand a chance.

Which gate do you think it will required Gai to beat Killer B? Also only cqc.

 

[KidGamer65]

Which gate do you think it will required Gai to beat Killer B? Also only cqc.

5th or 6th Gate.

 

[Mellanoma]

All of these people lose except for Hashirama and Madara.

-Madara is far faster than Taka Sasuke, physically superior and his Gunbai offers a great defense for B's Seven Swords Dance.
-Hashirama in Base can clash equally w/ Madara and Sage Mode greatly increases physical strength, speed and reactions.

EMS Sasuke and Edo Itachi also have a good chance of winning. An injured Sasuke was capable of clashing w/ B momentarily, and eMS Sasuke along w/ Edo Itachi are far above that Sasuke in speed, reactions and overall CQC ability.

The rest don't stand a chance.

I wouldn't consider that a Clash. He parried a sword or 2 then evaded and ran.

Also if we are factoring in Senjutsu / ninjutsu then I can see Hashirama beating Bee through sheer contact force but what about Bee's ligtning enhanced blades vs Madara?

 

[KidGamer65]

I wouldn't consider that a Clash. He parried a sword or 2 then evaded and ran.

Also if we are factoring in Senjutsu / ninjutsu then I can see Hashirama beating Bee through sheer contact force but what about Bee's ligtning enhanced blades vs Madara?

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He was holding is own, until here:

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That's more than a sword or two and he wasn't running. If Raiton is actually allowed then I take back what I said about Itachi winning, but Vibrato blades aren't going to cut through Madara's Gunbai.

 

[Mellanoma]

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He was holding is own, until here:

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That's more than a sword or two and he wasn't running. If Raiton is actually allowed then I take back what I said about Itachi winning, but Vibrato blades aren't going to cut through Madara's Gunbai.

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You call that holding your own? Sasuke is retreating back the entire time. Matter of fact what let Sasuke last that long was him back peddling giving him an advantage to evade better but there is no way he could have gotten a clean hit on killer bee OR held his ground to combat him.

As for lightning i forgot Gunbai can reflect Chakra but I'm still not convinced Madara could take bee on with that crazy fighting style.

Also Itachi canonically was not stupid enough to fight bee.

 

[Eng nawashi]

He beats all except for Madara and Hashirama .

 

[KidGamer65]

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You call that holding your own? Sasuke is retreating back the entire time. Matter of fact what let Sasuke last that long was him back peddling giving him an advantage to evade better but there is no way he could have gotten a clean hit on killer bee OR held his ground to combat him.

As for lightning i forgot Gunbai can reflect Chakra but I'm still not convinced Madara could take bee on with that crazy fighting style.

Also Itachi canonically was not stupid enough to fight bee.

That is exactly what holding his own is. I didn't say he was matching him nor did I say he would've been able to hit him. I said he was holding his own and he was until he got knocked down.

There's no reason to believe Madara loses.

 

[Mellanoma]

That is exactly what holding his own is. I didn't say he was matching him nor did I say he would've been able to hit him. I said he was holding his own and he was until he got knocked down.

There's no reason to believe Madara loses.

Ah I see what you're saying. For me holding your own means maintaining position.

As for Madara I believe he would lose simply because he lacks the SM reflex and power to counter Bee.

EMS Madara isn't that much faster than sasuke is he? Especially with that massive warfan

 

[KidGamer65]

Ah I see what you're saying. For me holding your own means maintaining position.

As for Madara I believe he would lose simply because he lacks the SM reflex and power to counter Bee.

EMS Madara isn't that much faster than sasuke is he? Especially with that massive warfan

"SM reflex" doesn't make sense. SM is just a buff. It has no set reflex level. EMS Madara is more reflexive and far faster than any Sage in this Manga bar the Rikudo Sages and SM Hashirama. Sasuke was able to clash w/ B's weapons so physical power isn't an issue, especially since Madara>>Sasuke physically as he is strong enough to knock SM Naruto on his ass and strong enough to block top speed Ay's punch. Madara is faster than Base B, and the Gunbai acts as a shield and weapon from his blades while Madara also has his scythe.

Yes, he's much faster than he is. He's fast enough to catch SM Naruto off guard and w/ no eyes he was consistently dodging Sasuke. You can argue that he had SM, but he lacked eyes and EMS yields a boost on par or greater than Sage Mode as seen w/ Sasuke being able to track what BSM Naruto can also track.

 

[Mellanoma]

"SM reflex" doesn't make sense. SM is just a buff. It has no set reflex level. EMS Madara is more reflexive and far faster than any Sage in this Manga bar the Rikudo Sages and SM Hashirama. Sasuke was able to clash w/ B's weapons so physical power isn't an issue, especially since Madara>>Sasuke physically as he is strong enough to knock SM Naruto on his ass and strong enough to block top speed Ay's punch. Madara is faster than Base B, and the Gunbai acts as a shield and weapon from his blades while Madara also has his scythe.

Yes, he's much faster than he is. He's fast enough to catch SM Naruto off guard and w/ no eyes he was consistently dodging Sasuke. You can argue that he had SM, but he lacked eyes and EMS yields a boost on par or greater than Sage Mode as seen w/ Sasuke being able to track what BSM Naruto can also track.

Both Kabuto AND naruto stated Sage mode enhances their abilities and hand to hand combat skills get boosted

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Also in reference to Sasuke and Madara strength: YES Madara is stronger but the issue is Bee's Raiton swords. Madara Lacks the affinity to guard it properly

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[KidGamer65]

Both Kabuto AND naruto stated Sage mode enhances their abilities and hand to hand combat skills get boosted

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Also in reference to Sasuke and Madara strength: YES Madara is stronger but the issue is Bee's Raiton swords. Madara Lacks the affinity to guard it properly

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Yes, it's a buff. Not a set level. That doesn't prevent people from already having superior abilities to Sages, and Madara is far faster than Naruto or Kabuto.

No, he doesn't. The Gunbai reflects chakra and is durable enough to block KCM Rasengan and Mini Bijuu Dama. So Raiton isn't cutting through it.

 

[Mellanoma]

Yes, it's a buff. Not a set level. That doesn't prevent people from already having superior abilities to Sages, and Madara is far faster than Naruto or Kabuto.

No, he doesn't. The Gunbai reflects chakra and is durable enough to block KCM Rasengan and Mini Bijuu Dama. So Raiton isn't cutting through it.

Fair enough.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

If Samehada's abilities aren't restricted, and nothing indicates that they are, Kisame wins a CQC battle against base (or V1) Bee. Bee's speed is not an issue until V2, as canonically shown when Kisame kept out-maneuvering Bee in CQC. The only thing that should be left to discuss is the 7 swords dance. The unpredictable nature of Bee's 7 swords dance is rendered ineffective against an opponent that can easily withstand being stabbed and completely heal from it as well. Without the issue of having to avoid/parry all the blades, Kisame can simply aim and swing Samehada at Bee's body. They either exchange blows, which favors Kisame due to Samehadas range and healing; or Bee is forced to completely dodge, which disrupts his assault.

This whole maneuver is Bee doing acrobatic somersaults. As seen in the

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, Bee is continuously adjusting the positions of his swords in order to move around and advance towards the target. So it is important to understand that the speed that Bee's body is traveling is not the issue. Therefore, Bee wouldn't be forcing Kisame on the back-peddle since Kisame can (already has) handle Bee's movement/traveling speed and can also withstand the damage output of this attack. Instead, Kisame would be coming at him which completely disrupts the whole dance as you can't somersault properly into an opposing object. And even if Bee was able to skillfully jump over Kisame or to the side of him, Kisame has canonically adjusted his body position and Samehada fast enough to counter Bee's movement speed so this never an issue either.

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[Zexion~]

If Samehada's abilities aren't restricted, and nothing indicates that they are, Kisame wins a CQC battle against base (or V1) Bee. Bee's speed is not an issue until V2, as canonically shown when Kisame kept out-maneuvering Bee in CQC. The only thing that should be left to discuss is the 7 swords dance. The unpredictable nature of Bee's 7 swords dance is rendered ineffective against an opponent that can easily withstand being stabbed and completely heal from it as well. Without the issue of having to avoid/parry all the blades, Kisame can simply aim and swing Samehada at Bee's body. They either exchange blows, which favors Kisame due to Samehadas range and healing; or Bee is forced to completely dodge, which disrupts his assault.

This whole maneuver is Bee doing acrobatic somersaults. As seen in the

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, Bee is continuously adjusting the positions of his swords in order to move around and advance towards the target. So it is important to understand that the speed that Bee's body is traveling is not the issue. Therefore, Bee wouldn't be forcing Kisame on the back-peddle since Kisame can (already has) handle Bee's movement/traveling speed and can also withstand the damage output of this attack. Instead, Kisame would be coming at him which completely disrupts the whole dance as you can't somersault properly into an opposing object. And even if Bee was able to skillfully jump over Kisame or to the side of him, Kisame has canonically adjusted his body position and Samehada fast enough to counter Bee's movement speed so this never an issue either.

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Was right about to type this tbh.