Kidomaru vs Tayuya vs Jirobou vs Sakon/Ukon

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Good thread. Jirobo is the easiest kill for anyone. Kidomaro has the advantage in defense/offense , smarts and environment control. Sakon/ukon has the advantage in CQC/Tai. Tayuya has the advantage in CM2 via her Genjutsu.

She escapes via shunshin from the start then uses her Genjutsu. CM2 Tayuya wins.
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Even tho Kidomaru would've also escaped at the start to set up traps all around himself as a cautionary tale. The only trap that would surely catch Tayuya while under her Genjutsu would be ground webs like he used on Kiba nigh instantly.
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But CM2 Tayuya would muscle through it like she did the Shadow bind , or she could use her Chakra ghosts to drain the Chakra out of the fluid under her feet then send an ogre to kill a Kidomaru.
 
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Good thread. Jirobo is the easiest kill for anyone. Kidomaro has the advantage in defense/offense , smarts and environment control. Sakon/ukon has the advantage in CQC/Tai. Tayuya has the advantage in CM2 via her Genjutsu.

She escapes via shunshin from the start then uses her Genjutsu. CM2 Tayuya wins.
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Even tho Kidomaru would've also escaped at the start to set up traps all around himself as a cautionary tale. The only trap that would surely catch Tayuya while under her Genjutsu would be ground webs like he used on Kiba nigh instantly.
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But CM2 Tayuya would muscle through it like she did the Shadow bind , or she could use her Chakra ghosts to drain the Chakra out of the fluid under her feet then send an ogre to kill a Kidomaru.
Jirobo isn't the easiest to take out. That's definitely Sakon/Ukon, as Jirobo has underground leverage, capable of tunneling below the surface.

Sakon/Ukon have no real game changing defense here.

In terms of survivability it goes:

Kidomaru
Tayuya
Jirobo
Sakon/Ukon

Tayuya clearly ends up as #1 if she can get off her entire arsenal, if not Kidomaru utterly shits.

Tayuya is hard countered af by Kidomaru. Sadly.
 

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Jirobo isn't the easiest to take out. That's definitely Sakon/Ukon, as Jirobo has underground leverage, capable of tunneling below the surface.
Thats true. But he's by far the slowest/weakest here and he'd be luckly not to get attacked and beaten by either Sakon or Kidomaru before he vanishes underground as the reason he pulled that over the SRA team was due to them being drained of chakra.


Sakon/Ukon have no real game changing defense here.

In terms of survivability it goes:

Kidomaru
Tayuya
Jirobo
Sakon/Ukon

Tayuya clearly ends up as #1 if she can get off her entire arsenal, if not Kidomaru utterly shits.

Tayuya is hard countered af by Kidomaru. Sadly.

I agree with everything here apart from the Jirobo aspect seeing as i think he'll get wiped out quickly by Sakon/Ukon but if not then i fully agree.

-Yea, if Tayuya doesn't use her CM2 genjutsu from the start and chooses to use the Doki or weaker attacks , she'll get picked off w/Kido likely webbing her along with her Doki all while having already set traps with every move he makes as to not forget about the others.

Kido is a hard counter to all of their strongest abilities even the new ones given by CM2 lol. Golden armour should be able to block Sakon's merg ability , just as his fluid can create ear plugs to handle Tayuya and dont get me started on how superior he is to Jirobo who doesn't get any new attacks in CM2.
 

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I'm going to go with Sakon/Ukon.

Due to having no intel, everyone likely gets hit by Tayuya's sound genjutsu, but Sakon/Ukon should be the first to easily break out of it with partner method. Orochimaru stated they are the strongest of the four, so there is no reason to believe that Tayuya or Kidomaru's webs can hold them off. Only other thing worth mentioning is Kidomaru's arrows, but Sakon/Ukon are capable of being sliced in half without taking damage, not to mention the Rashomon Gate.
 

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I'm going to go with Sakon/Ukon.

Due to having no intel, everyone likely gets hit by Tayuya's sound genjutsu, but Sakon/Ukon should be the first to easily break out of it with partner method..
Why wouldn't the sound affect both of them? It's not like when the other is inside the can do anything. As they even said, only one can take "charge" of the body, the other one is just a passenger.
 

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Why wouldn't the sound affect both of them? It's not like when the other is inside the can do anything. As they even said, only one can take "charge" of the body, the other one is just a passenger.
Regardless if it affects both of them or not, all Tayuya's genjutsu does is restrict the targets movements. Despite being caught in it, Shikamaru was still able to use his Shadow Possession jutsu to break his finger to force himself out of the genjutsu. Sakon/Ukon being already attached to each other should be able to break each other out since it doesn't require any movement to do so.
 

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Regardless if it affects both of them or not, all Tayuya's genjutsu does is restrict the targets movements. Despite being caught in it, Shikamaru was still able to use his Shadow Possession jutsu to break his finger to force himself out of the genjutsu. Sakon/Ukon being already attached to each other should be able to break each other out since it doesn't require any movement to do so.
But shikamaru did so by using his shadow jutsu to break his finger, he didn't have to physically move to break himself free, the idea of the genjutsu is that neither sakon or ukon, even while being inside of each other, will be able to move free to break each other.
 

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Tayuya can destroy Sakon and ukon but they are versatike duo. If they get out of range they could plan a strategy to attack tayuya from blindspot. Kidomaru could probably see through her genjutsu with third eye.
 

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Hard to make a clear decision between Tayuya/Sakon/Kidomaru. All three can turn the tides against one another, it depends on who goes after who first. Tayuya's not dealing with Kidomaru if he's firing his arrows at her or launching webs to ensnare her. Likewise, if the genjutsu or Doki blindside him, I get the feeling he's not surviving past it. Sakon's a pretty good counter to genjutsu thanks to his brother and was said to be the strongest of the Sound Four. So, I'll put my money on him, as there's too many variables to break it down like a 1 v. 1.

I just know Jirobo's probably not going to make it too far. His CM2 state is great at clearing a dense forest, which helps against Kido. Sakon/Tayuya should be able to handle him with ease though.
 
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