Kid vs Shanks

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I don't think it's likely, of all the Yonko Shanks always seems to be within a feet of his
crewmates.. Would be surprised if his alliance could get past those guys in decent enough
condition to even put up a fight. Then again there's really no telling what Kid and the alliance
are now capable of.
 

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If kidd is to be any rival for luffy then he will have to defeat shanks with his alliance, but i dont see how luffy will fulfill his promise of meeting/beating shanks if kidd kills him.
 
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If kidd is to be any rival for luffy then he will have to defeat shanks with his alliance, but i dont see how luffy will fulfill his promise of meeting/beating shanks if kidd kills him.
(DISCLAIMER: I do NOT want this to happen!)

But he could always return the strawhat by placing it on Shanks' grave. :NO:
 

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So are you still going to ignore the fact that Doflamingo also got help?
What help that offsets the help Luffy and Law received? Trebol and Bellamy? Bellamy did little damage and trebol did little damage. Neither of them stopped Luffy or Law from delivering a fatal blow. Luffy & Law had an entire town helping them by giving them more time(which they clearly needed) delaying Birdcage and Luffy had help from a town keeping Doffy from reaching his motionless body and delivering a kill shot. Besides the point isn't who needed and didn't need help, the point is 2 of the top Super Nova's together plus some couldn't beat 1 Shichibukai and a few of his underlings on their own so why are we indulging this concept that 1 of the top 3 SN's could beat a Yonkou capt?
 

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What help that offsets the help Luffy and Law received? Trebol and Bellamy? Bellamy did little damage and trebol did little damage. Neither of them stopped Luffy or Law from delivering a fatal blow. Luffy & Law had an entire town helping them by giving them more time(which they clearly needed) delaying Birdcage and Luffy had help from a town keeping Doffy from reaching his motionless body and delivering a kill shot. Besides the point isn't who needed and didn't need help, the point is 2 of the top Super Nova's together plus some couldn't beat 1 Shichibukai and a few of his underlings on their own so why are we indulging this concept that 1 of the top 3 SN's could beat a Yonkou capt?
Doflamingo took advantage of Luffy's friendship with Bellamy in order to stall Luffy so that Doflamingo and Trebol could fight Law 2v1. Bellamy fought Luffy from before Hajudin beat Machvise to after Zoro beat Pica. So that was a good amount of time for Bellamy to damage Luffy and use up some of Luffy's Haki. In my opinion if Law and Luffy weren't separated, and if it was just them vs Doffy, then they would have won mid diff.
 
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