Kiba vs Hidan

[Zexion~]

Even without knowledge Kiba would win. He'd only go CQC against an Akatsuki using garoga, which rotation would make piercing for blood impossible, not to mention Kiba can use kage bunshin, to distract Hidan inside the smoke.

As zexion mentioned, the only way to Kill hidan would be using cerberus but Hidan is pretty fast and we don't have a parameter to tell if Cerberus is fast enough to blitz him, but blinding him with smoke is more than enough.

Kiba wins med diff being generous. Hail lord kiba.

His smoke has about a 1 meter radius Hidan can easily escape it before he gets bisected, why can't he get blood from basic rotation? I don't see why he'd be invulnerable in that state as its not strong enough to physically cut anything so it should be cut.

 

[EZQ]

True

Kiba's speed in DB3 is a 4.5. Now take into consideration that War-Arc Kiba would obviously be even faster then that, in addition to the Four Legs Technique which increases his speed and reflexes even further. Safe to say he's faster then Hidan by a decent margin.

I do not trust databook entries when it comes to speed, since it envolves all types of speed. Tobi side stepped Kiba's gatsuga so that attack at least is really slow. So i won't touch that subject, Kiba wins despite being slower or not.

 

[EZQ]

His smoke has about a 1 meter radius Hidan can easily escape it before he gets bisected, why can't he get blood from basic rotation? I don't see why he'd be invulnerable in that state as its not strong enough to physically cut anything so it should be cut.

Neji's rotation prevented the juubi's spike to "enter" the rotation. I see the same happening with Hidan trying to pierce a drill (kiba spinning). And Kiba can use the smoke and send a bunshin distraction just to keep hidan there. Kiba only needs to cover himself from Hidan, and when he's already transformed an attacked, is irrelevant if Hidan is inside the screen.

 

[Zexion~]

Neji's rotation prevented the juubi's spike to "enter" the rotation. I see the same happening with Hidan trying to pierce a drill (kiba spinning). And Kiba can use the smoke and send a bunshin distraction just to keep hidan there. Kiba only needs to cover himself from Hidan, and when he's already transformed an attacked, is irrelevant if Hidan is inside the screen.

What bunshin? Pretty sure his only clone is Akamaru and he can't merge with him if he's sending him at Hidan. Neji's rotation uses dense chakra not human skin as its rotation factor not human flesh.

 

[BLAZE]

Cerberus cuts hidan in half

What bunshin? Pretty sure his only clone is Akamaru and he can't merge with him if he's sending him at Hidan. Neji's rotation uses dense chakra not human skin as its rotation factor not human flesh.

Kage Bunshin

 

[Zexion~]

Cerberus cuts hidan in half

Kage Bunshin

When did he use this? I'm not doubting you, simply don't recall.

 

[BLAZE]

When did he use this? I'm not doubting you, simply don't recall.

Around 633-634 when Rookie 9 were showing there power.he used it to form Cerberus

 

[Zexion~]

Around 633-634 when Rookie 9 were showing there power.he used it to form Cerberus

Damn you right

 

[EZQ]

What bunshin? Pretty sure his only clone is Akamaru and he can't merge with him if he's sending him at Hidan. Neji's rotation uses dense chakra not human skin as its rotation factor not human flesh.

Kiba has kage bunshin in the war arc. And it doesn't matter what kind of rotation it is, Kiba's rotation becomes hard enough to slice a tree like if it was butter, so Hidan's schyte would just bounce from it.

 

[ToshiZO]

Kiba has kage bunshin in the war arc. And it doesn't matter what kind of rotation it is, Kiba's rotation becomes hard enough to slice a tree like if it was butter, so Hidan's schyte would just bounce from it.

No Hidan would draw blood. Its just him spinning really fast. I don't get how it would bounce, especially in this manga where sharp objects are given such preference.

 

[Zexion~]

Kiba has kage bunshin in the war arc. And it doesn't matter what kind of rotation it is, Kiba's rotation becomes hard enough to slice a tree like if it was butter, so Hidan's schyte would just bounce from it.

Debatable but it doesn't matter too much, in part one Naruto was surviving hits from it I believe.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

I do not trust databook entries when it comes to speed, since it envolves all types of speed. Tobi side stepped Kiba's gatsuga so that attack at least is really slow. So i won't touch that subject, Kiba wins despite being slower or not.

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, and he was also contending with KCM Naruto and War-Arc Kakashi in CQC. So Kiba getting side stepped by him with a linear attack with no AoE is nothing to be really ashamed about.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

No Hidan would draw blood. Its just him spinning really fast. I don't get how it would bounce, especially in this manga where sharp objects are given such preference.

Mere spinning?

Stop it. that sh!t cleaves clean through bedrock without even making contact with it.

Not even rotation has feats like that, only bringing up said effect through direct contact.

The blade wont even get past the wind to touch kiba.

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[ToshiZO]

Mere spinning?

Stop it. that sh!t cleaves clean through bedrock without even making contact with it.

Not even rotation has feats like that, only bringing up said effect through direct contact.

The blade wont even get past the wind to touch kiba.

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true.

 

[EZQ]

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, and he was also contending with KCM Naruto and War-Arc Kakashi in CQC. So Kiba getting side stepped by him with a linear attack with no AoE is nothing to be really ashamed about.

Still, what Kishimoto states in the databook is worth nothing, since Hidan was faster than Asuma in every aspect of their fight except from the attack speed, and Asuma has 1 point higher speed. Honestly, the only thing i see Hidan's speed being a 3.5 in the databook is because of his statement against Yugito. I'm not saying Kiba is slow, but Hidan's feats are not the ones of a slow person, and i don't see Kiba being faster, and let alone considerably faster than him, based on the databook.

And come on dude, Obito literally side stepped it, no sunshin, not jumping, he literally just gave a step to the side.

 

[KidGamer65]

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, and he was also contending with KCM Naruto and War-Arc Kakashi in CQC. So Kiba getting side stepped by him with a linear attack with no AoE is nothing to be really ashamed about.

Holy shit. I did not know that this existed.

 

[EZQ]

And i wasn't even arguing Garoga, sorry, i meant Gatsuuga (the normal one) i don't even see hidan's schyte touching that one.

 

[Zexion~]

Holy shit. I did not know that this existed.

The ratings are still sketchy

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Still, what Kishimoto states in the databook is worth nothing, since Hidan was faster than Asuma in every aspect of their fight except from the attack speed, and Asuma has 1 point higher speed. Honestly, the only thing i see Hidan's speed being a 3.5 in the databook is because of his statement against Yugito. I'm not saying Kiba is slow, but Hidan's feats are not the ones of a slow person, and i don't see Kiba being faster, and let alone considerably faster than him, based on the databook.

And come on dude, Obito literally side stepped it, no sunshin, not jumping, he literally just gave a step to the side.

It occasionally isn't accurate with the manga, but you can't say the DB as a whole is worth nothing. It's written by the author, thus is a credible source. Hidan was never shown to be faster then Asuma, don't know where you got that one from. His weapon is very versatile, which provides for added pressure in medium range combat. You mean based on the manga, because the DB3 states that base Kiba is faster then Hidan. By the War-Arc that gap is increased even further, and then add in the speed boost from All Fours Technique. I don't see how this is even controversial to say that by DB4, Kiba is faster then Hidan. That way I see it, unless proven otherwise by the manga, I'm going to take what Kishi writes in the DB. To each is own though.

Do I need to provide more of Obito's speed and CQC feats? Again, Kiba being side stepped by Obito with a linear attack and no great AoE is nothing to really frown upon. Obito is a high tier character, and his movement/reaction speed is at a high level.

Holy shit. I did not know that this existed.

Lol, I came across this awhile ago, just never felt the need to post it.

 

[Icelerate]

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, and he was also contending with KCM Naruto and War-Arc Kakashi in CQC. So Kiba getting side stepped by him with a linear attack with no AoE is nothing to be really ashamed about.

How was he matching Minato? But I agree, I don't see why people keep on bringing Tobi sidestepping Kiba as some kind of feat to downplay Kiba's speed.

BTW I can't see images from tinypic for some reason. Care to show it differently?