Kenpachi beat Ichigo... not the other way around.

[KingHashirama]

What I don't get is people believing the garbage "Kenpachi lost to Ichigo".. uh no he didn't.. Kenpachi was still standing.. He forced himself to stand, Ichigo was the first man down.

To kenpachi Ichigo won yes. But in reality, Ichigo lost that fight.

 

[Summer]

I thought it was a draw both men went down.

 

[Mischeif Maker]

is their anyone who really cares......ichigo far surpassed them all

and if you think its impressive to think kenpachi beat ichigo like a month after getting soul reaper powers then cool if it would have been another week later and ichigo had his bankai he would have beat him in less then a minute

 

[Byakuya K]

lolol kenpachi is a badass though.

 

[Summer]

You know that zaraki is the 10th kenpachi in soul society history. Seems like a lot of fallen kenpachi's.

 

[kevenc]

Ichigo > Aizen therefore Ichigo > Kenpachi

 

[KingHashirama]

is their anyone who really cares......ichigo far surpassed them all

and if you think its impressive to think kenpachi beat ichigo like a month after getting soul reaper powers then cool if it would have been another week later and ichigo had his bankai he would have beat him in less then a minute

Kenpachi was stronger then Ichigo even after Ichigo got his bankai.. Did you not see kenpachi's fight with Captain tousin?

Ichigo > Aizen therefore Ichigo > Kenpachi

Ichigo> Aizen.. for like what 30 seconds? and then ichigo looses his powers. lmao

 

[Strata Uchiha]

Yoruichi Shihoin later on in the next episode said that the battle between Ichigo and Kenpachi was a draw.

Fin.

 

[NLee]

This whole debate doesn't even matter.
The entire fight was nothing but plot progression for Ichigo. Let that be the end of it.


Let me try to close this once and for all:
-Kirge was just a Vandenreich Lieutenant. He wasn't even a Stern Ritter, yet he managed to keep Bankai Ichigo busy for a hefty amount of time.
-Kenpachi killed 3 full-fledged Stern Ritters without breaking a sweat.



Now, Shikai Ichigo > Kenpachi? DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH.
This whole Shikai Ichigo vs Kenpachi garbage needs to stop.

 

[mlickko]

Ehm, Kirge in fact WAS a SternRitter ... Opie "J" the Jailer. And he was keeping shikai Ichigo busy, bankai Ichigo overpowered him quite quickly. Opie himself stated that. It was just because Opie was a lot smarter than the SternRitters Kenpachi's beaten that he lasted that long. From what we saw and heard we can almost even say that the SR that fought Kenpachi never used Vollstandig or Sklaverei.
Kenpachi won just because of his brute and raw strength and that he has 'no nonsense' attitude. Ichigo was trying to get some information from Kirge.

Apart from that I agree that the match between Ichigo and Kenpachi in SS arc was for plot. It ended in a draw. (It's funny because Ichigo thought he lost and Kenpachi thought that he lost instead.)
And I think there is a good explanation to why it ended like that.
As it was stated, Kenpachi's "ability" is probably that he matches the strength of his opponent when he's enjoying his fight. That's why he he fought to a draw with Ichigo, because he was having fun.
He won with Tousen, because it was boring.
He was in a draw with Noitra when it was still fun but when it got boring he overpowered him.
He lost the last match with fake Juha Bach because he probably didn't have time to match the fake's strength...or for some unknown reason.

This whole debate doesn't even matter.
The entire fight was nothing but plot progression for Ichigo. Let that be the end of it.


Let me try to close this once and for all:
-Kirge was just a Vandenreich Lieutenant. He wasn't even a Stern Ritter, yet he managed to keep Bankai Ichigo busy for a hefty amount of time.
-Kenpachi killed 3 full-fledged Stern Ritters without breaking a sweat.



Now, Shikai Ichigo > Kenpachi? DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH.
This whole Shikai Ichigo vs Kenpachi garbage needs to stop.

 

[mlickko]

Btw: I don' want to be rude, but some of the posts in Bleach section of NB are so unrefined or they look like they were written by somebody he doesn't give a damn about manga seriously, and is just screwing around. Or even a bunch of kids. I'm a member of another forum for Bleach and if I could recommend it to you, I'd do it cause posts that are there would blow your mind as people there are amazing, analyzing every bit of manga but still keeping it in borders of fun. And they have uncovered many layers of secrets long before they were actually revealed. For one example the revealing of fake Juha Bach.

 

[TheHokage]

This whole debate doesn't even matter.
The entire fight was nothing but plot progression for Ichigo. Let that be the end of it.


Let me try to close this once and for all:
-Kirge was just a Vandenreich Lieutenant. He wasn't even a Stern Ritter, yet he managed to keep Bankai Ichigo busy for a hefty amount of time.
-Kenpachi killed 3 full-fledged Stern Ritters without breaking a sweat.



Now, Shikai Ichigo > Kenpachi? DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH.
This whole Shikai Ichigo vs Kenpachi garbage needs to stop.

While it is true that Ichigo vs Zaraki was for the plot progression I think your being a little hasty.

I thought Kirge was the captain of Hueco Mudo hunting squad or something like that plus I don't think Juha would send a weak Quincy into Hueco Mundo and put him in charge since there are Arrancar that are still powerful, while the Quincies that Zaraki beat were just fodder since they had no real purpose other than to make Zaraki's appearance more badass.

I agree with Zaraki>Shikai Ichigo.
But Bankai Ichigo>Zaraki all the time.

 

[raziel777]

What I don't get is people believing the garbage "Kenpachi lost to Ichigo".. uh no he didn't.. Kenpachi was still standing.. He forced himself to stand, Ichigo was the first man down.

To kenpachi Ichigo won yes. But in reality, Ichigo lost that fight.

the same could be said about the ichigo vs byakuya fight. Byakuya's blade was shattered but he could have finished of ichigo with a hado but he didnt. Ichigo went down and byakuya was still standing