[VS] KCSM Naruto vs Ay v2

How does this battle play out

  • Nardo gets soloed like Oh No

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • Orange flash mid diff

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Nardo stomps

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Ay treats him like he dropped the soap

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • Naruto wins high diff

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ay high diff

    Votes: 1 9.1%

  • Total voters
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iNotorious

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lmao, Naruto gets manhandled then. My bad for not reading the restrictions.



I don't know about him winning, I'd have to think some more, but under these conditions he gets stomped.

BSM is too much for the raikage to handle, heck he can't even manage to defeat BM/KCM
 

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lmao, Naruto gets manhandled then. My bad for not reading the restrictions.



I don't know about him winning, I'd have to think some more, but under these conditions he gets stomped.
Raikage can't really damage him much plus his reaction and speed is higher, he doesn't need frs Or rasengan frog fu go Ham and he'll be worn down
 

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Sometimes i get confused with KCSM and BSM, xD my bad

Its cool. XD

Raikage can't really damage him much plus his reaction and speed is higher, he doesn't need frs Or rasengan frog fu go Ham and he'll be worn down

Ay can hurt him, in fact he can do much more than that. [ ]

Naruto is the one who can't hurt Ay, this guy can take a Chidori (which focuses its output energy into one point) with no noticeable damage. Frog Fu isn't going to help him here. Engaging Ay in CQC will just lead to him getting beaten down as Ay is physically superior to Naruto in every way bar speed.
 
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Ay has better control over Speed than Naruto and even 3rd Raikage managed to dodge KCM Naruto's attacks so I can't see a problem for Ay to dodge his attacks.

Ay wins this according to OP.
 

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KCM Naruto mid-high diff,

KCSM Naruto low diff or stomps him
 

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I fail to see how Ay trumps KCSM reactions -using SM sensing he could track jubito's movement and outmanuver 3rd raikage.

The scan shows Ay hurting naruto,- but naruto insot in SM- his durability shoots through the roof in SM.

It seems like your comparing KCM to Ay and your forgetting the SM bit.

Ay being physically superior to naruto is utter nonsense- why do you say that- becaue he has muslces.
Lets look at feats:

Lifting/Crushing/Throwing Feats -Naruto had the physical streanght to through summons to the cloudline-- KCM naruto's chakra arms could casually crush large boulders.- naruto was so strong he accidently crushed boulders-- - KCSM logically is stronger than both forms individually. Naruto can through a biju around in SM- This aspect of streanght is so obvious I doubt I even need to post raikage's feats.

-Lets compare their punching streanght:


In the scan Raikage Punched a fist sized hole inn juugo's arm/shield and chest.



In this scan, Naruto took Asura path out of commission with a single punch, asura's arm was detached and he was in pieces after being hit by Naruto.

Now, remember- these feats are difficult to compare because juugo and asura path have different durability levels- however, these feats show that at the very least- both characters have similar striking streanght ability.


SpeedNow, you already conceded that raikage is slower- if raikage is slower than KCM, you would be several times slower with sage mode added to the mix.


In sage mode naruto has better reaction feats, streanght feats ( lifting - they are about equal in striking)- and in KCM naruto is faster- and you could argue that his chakra arms are stronger than raikage aswell.

-combining sage mode's enhanced reflexes, streanght, durability with KCM's speed puts naruto above Raikage.
 

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Its cool. XD



Ay can hurt him, in fact he can do much more than that. [ ]

Naruto is the one who can't hurt Ay, this guy can take a Chidori (which focuses its output energy into one point) with no noticeable damage. Frog Fu isn't going to help him here. Engaging Ay in CQC will just lead to him getting beaten down as Ay is physically superior to Naruto in every way bar speed.

Sage mode increases durability tho and with kuramas chakra it would be a bigger boost than from base -->sm. For example Narutos punch in sm should be enough to kill him in base but If sm Naruto went against himself he wouldn't be one shotted because his durability increased proportionally like his strength so a punch that would hurt him in kcm wouldn't have the same effect in kcsm.. nice argument though.
 

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I fail to see how Ay trumps KCSM reactions -using SM sensing he could track jubito's movement and outmanuver 3rd raikage.

The scan shows Ay hurting naruto,- but naruto insot in SM- his durability shoots through the roof in SM.

It seems like your comparing KCM to Ay and your forgetting the SM bit.

Ay being physically superior to naruto is utter nonsense- why do you say that- becaue he has muslces.
Lets look at feats:

Lifting/Crushing/Throwing Feats -Naruto had the physical streanght to through summons to the cloudline-- KCM naruto's chakra arms could casually crush large boulders.- naruto was so strong he accidently crushed boulders-- - KCSM logically is stronger than both forms individually. Naruto can through a biju around in SM- This aspect of streanght is so obvious I doubt I even need to post raikage's feats.

-Lets compare their punching streanght:


In the scan Raikage Punched a fist sized hole inn juugo's arm/shield and chest.



In this scan, Naruto took Asura path out of commission with a single punch, asura's arm was detached and he was in pieces after being hit by Naruto.

Now, remember- these feats are difficult to compare because juugo and asura path have different durability levels- however, these feats show that at the very least- both characters have similar striking streanght ability.


SpeedNow, you already conceded that raikage is slower- if raikage is slower than KCM, you would be several times slower with sage mode added to the mix.


In sage mode naruto has better reaction feats, streanght feats ( lifting - they are about equal in striking)- and in KCM naruto is faster- and you could argue that his chakra arms are stronger than raikage aswell.

-combining sage mode's enhanced reflexes, streanght, durability with KCM's speed puts naruto above Raikage.
I agree with everything You Just said I couldn't have worded it better myself -bows - btw I put that pic there Just to ask if with the sm boost could he beat him.
 
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