KCM vs EMS Speed

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Which one is faster? (Movements, attacks and reactions)
 

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i would say equally maybe EMS has A slight advantage and reaction. KCM and EMS attack were able to read and react to SO6P obito
 

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I saw ems sasuke's speed, attack, and movemnts being on par with bsm naruto when they attacked jyubi jinchuuriki obito but i don't know if kcm naruto's speed got faster when he went up to bsm form.
 

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I saw ems sasuke's speed, attack, and movemnts being on par with bsm naruto when they attacked jyubi jinchuuriki obito but i don't know if kcm naruto's speed got faster when he went up to bsm form.

It SHOULD have, if kcm is that fast cause of kuramas chakra then having easier free access to it should make him faster? Although I’m not sure if blitzing the tbbs was any a better speed feat than what kcm nardo did
 

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It is very hard to tell, but they have both shown that they are just about as fully capable in all of those ways.

Actually, you should compare EMS to BSM, because they were both fighting Obito equally at that level. KCM and BSM may be the same speed, but logically i would assume that BSM got a little faster.

I think that if the opponent is within the line of sight, EMS has better reaction time, but if the opponent is not, then BSM has better reaction time.
 

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EMS Sasuke is faster than KCM Naruto but BSM Naruto is faster than EMS Sasuke.
 

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It SHOULD have, if kcm is that fast cause of kuramas chakra then having easier free access to it should make him faster? Although I’m not sure if blitzing the tbbs was any a better speed feat than what kcm nardo did

For me I thought the speed was the same but the power just magnified significantly. Because kcm is the kyubi's chakra, so with more chakra of that same chakra shouldn't do anything with your speed it would more so stamina and the power you put into your ninjutsu/genjutsu.

This is just my opinion, I could be wrong for all I know. And you're right, speedblitzing-deflecting tailed beast bomb isn't an impressive speed feat more of a power feat.
 

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In terms of Shunshin KCM is superior.

In terms of reflexes and reaction speed EMS is far superior. EMS Sasuke before he could track Juubito was already matching KCM Naruto let alone afterwards. EMS also actually predicts movements while KCM is a raw boost in speed.
 

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KCM in movements and attack speed by a large margin.

EMS in reaction speed also by a large margin because it can predict attacks.
 

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Since when any version of the Sharingan gave the user speed?
 

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Choku Tomoe Sharingan, thats why madara conplimented Sasuke with his moves

I think you're misreading that. If it's the compliment he gave him after he was resurrected and had that little spat with Sasuke's sword it was literally because of that, because of his "moves" (technique, dexterity, etc), not his actual speed. I mean, he literally says "no wonder you have good moves" , if he wanted to compliment his speed he would have said something "no wonder you're fast" or something among those lines.
 

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I think you're misreading that. If it's the compliment he gave him after he was resurrected and had that little spat with Sasuke's sword it was literally because of that, because of his "moves" (technique, dexterity, etc), not his actual speed. I mean, he literally says "no wonder you have good moves" , if he wanted to compliment his speed he would have said something "no wonder you're fast" or something among those lines.

You are actually right and not right, he said you got good moves because of Choku Tomoe. That means not faster indeed, but his movements woudve been way less than if he had never been with Choku(Indra trans style Sharingan( EMS)
 
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Ok, but having better moves (as in more accurate) doesn't translate to speed, which I guess it's what's being discussed here. I think the thread should be if the Speed that the KCM gives you is better or not than the reaction the EMS gives you.
 

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Ok, but having better moves (as in more accurate) doesn't translate to speed, which I guess it's what's being discussed here. I think the thread should be if the Speed that the KCM gives you is better or not than the reaction the EMS gives you.

I agree with you here
 

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In that case I think the reaction EMS gives is superior to the speed any boost may give (due to how the brain synapses work), but as Lee explained to Sasuke when they were kids, even if he can see the movements beforehand, it's a bit useless if the body cannot move at an appropiate speed to react to that, which is why pretty much every character with EMS and above is still getting hit by stuff, and not necessarily insanely fast stuff either.
 

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In that case I think the reaction EMS gives is superior to the speed any boost may give (due to how the brain synapses work), but as Lee explained to Sasuke when they were kids, even if he can see the movements beforehand, it's a bit useless if the body cannot move at an appropiate speed to react to that, which is why pretty much every character with EMS and above is still getting hit by stuff, and not necessarily insanely fast stuff either.

And i disagree with you here, EMS and above isnt going to be hit by KCM. EMS its reaction speed is too fast for that.
 
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