KCM Naruto vs EMS Sasuke

[Omar19992010]

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Conditions
KCM Naruto (War-Arc) vs EMS Sasuke. Naruto is on good terms with Kurama.

Location
Destroyed Konoha

Intel
Full Intel for Both Sides

Restrictions
Perfect Susano'o and Legged Susano'o

Mindset
Bloodlusted

Scenario II
Legged Susano'o is unrestricted​

 

[ARGUS]

Naruto wins the first scenario and loses the second

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto might win the first scenario. Definitely loses the second one.

 

[-immortal-]

Sasuke wins both low diff what yall think?

 

[Unorthodox]

Sasuke wins both

 

[TRE MERCER]

Naruto wins both scene's.

Scene 1- Kyuubi chakra easily rips him out of his Susanoo just like [

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] Once ripped out of his Susanoo clones bombard him with FRS.

Scene 2- Naruto simply summons Ma and Pa and his clones can keep there hands together while he hold off Sasuke. If his clones can't summon them he simply does it himself while the clones hold off Sasuke.(Inb4 some buthurt says it's KM Naruto that doesn't mean he can't use SM clones or summon Ma and Pa)​

 

[Narutp1sasuke2 LetsGo]

Naruto no diffs the 1st one
Med diffs the second one

 

[Unorthodox]

Naruto wins both scene's.
Scene 1- Kyuubi chakra easily rips him out of his Susanoo just like [

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] Once ripped out of his Susanoo clones bombard him with FRS.​

If only it was that simple A chakra hands gets bisected on its way up to sasuke with enton blade or susanoo blade going underground is useless sharingan can see chakra furthermore the clones or naruto thats trying to rip him out of susanoo gets massacred with susanoo arrows. Sasuke can also float in his susanoo

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giving him enough breathing room to counter underground attacks assuming they make it that far Rasenshurikens are tanked or shot down with Magatamas naruto could try to play the running game but then kirin 1 shots him that way.

Scene 2- Naruto simply summons Ma and Pa and his clones can keep there hands together while he hold off Sasuke. If his clones can't summon them he simply does it himself while the clones hold off Sasuke.(Inb4 some buthurt says it's KM Naruto that doesn't mean he can't use SM clones or summon Ma and Pa)

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How many clones can he make exactly only 15 and KM and 14 of these clones are not holding off a v4 standing susanoo the clones are picked off rather easily. They do not have the speed to intercept susanoo arrows going towards to the real naruto or who's ever holding their hands together. Summons gets 1 shotted especially the boss summonings fodder snakes along with aoda can kill off gamakin (Or whatever that thang name is) He pressures the clones in CQC while holding a susanoo blade and enton blade in each hand the other 2 hands casually fires arrows. With his susanoo showing no lack in speed meaning it could move as fast as sasuke on foot possibly faster due to its size. His speed is great he has already shown he can keep up with kmc Naruto in speed and he tracked juubito who is tiers above kmc naruto inconsistent speed so they're movements are no problem at all. Sound genjutsu is a non factor it has a small aoe and lets say sasuke is caught amaterasu burns his arm via path method thus the genjutsu is broken its a non factor here. By this time the battlefield is nothing but pure amaterasu naruto is half dead then sasuke ends this with a susanoo arrow through the chest.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Naruto wins Scenario 1 low-mid diff especially with Kurama being friendly here (not sucking his chakra & could give him more.)

Sure outside of shunshin they're same speed, but Sasuke and his V4 Susanoo would be overwhelmed by 13+ KCM Naruto clones or SM clones, spamming Rasengan variants or Rasenshuirkens at him. When his only defenses are Susanoo & Enton, he's a sitting duck who'll get obliterated.

Scenario 2. Sasuke never used legged susanoo without a Kyuubi cloak :| so I'm not sure how I'd gauge its power.

...Sasuke probably mid-high diffs scenario 2

 

[Izanamı.]

Naruto wins 1, Sasuke wins 2.

 

[King Of Pop]

S1. a good argument can be made for sasuke taking this although his lack of soosano mobility leaves him a sitting duck for clone bombardment from clones with several frs so naruto probably takes this more times than not.

S2, with, legged soosano , any attempt to bombard him, gets evaded with ease. cofrs is met with soosano arrow or amaterasu which turns it to pure flame, smaller ones get intercepted with enton magatama and with v4 he can also tank some so clones arent doing a thing. eventually the real naruto gets engaged and bisected with enton blade or soosano sword. amount of enton on the field means kirin is prepped with ease and sasuke destroys him with it

sasuke low difs this one.

 

[Xlad]

Lol Sasuke wins both scenarios.

 

[TRE MERCER]

If only it was that simple A chakra hands gets bisected on its way up to sasuke with enton blade or susanoo blade going underground is useless sharingan can see chakra furthermore the clones or naruto thats trying to rip him out of susanoo gets massacred with susanoo arrows. Sasuke can also float in his susanoo

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giving him enough breathing room to counter underground attacks assuming they make it that far Rasenshurikens are tanked or shot down with Magatamas naruto could try to play the running game but then kirin 1 shots him that way.

How are chakra hands getting bisected while inside the Susanoo? Enton blade inside the Susanoo as well? Yes he can but how is he going to protect his Susanoo from getting bombarded by FRS all while being completely focused on the chakra arms coming underground. If he tries to shoot arrows at the clones using chakra arms underground Naruto himself simply intercepts them with chakra arms. [

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] they can do the same feat with Susanoo arrows. Also Madara's Magatama's also showed they they are very powerful seeing as the went through Gaara's Mom sand defense and cracked Oonoki's rock golem which tanked [

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]with very minimum [

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] at all. with the proof provided above Susanoo arrow is swatted. Sasuke floating in his susanoo isn't going to help him much at all. Counter underground attacks with what? Amaterasu was cannonly shrugged of raiton isn't cutting it either so with what? No need to throw and FRS when a clone can simply run up close and hit it with it. Enton Magatama's don't have speed feats suggesting they can hit Naruto plus if clones attack from the back and the front they render that agrument useless because as shown here Susanoo back side is completely [

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] so the back gets wrecked. Also how is Sasuke going to be evading/counter chakra hands from the inside of his Susanoo and attacking/countering clones from the inside? He won't survive long enough to use Kirin. And if he does Naruto simply use the Run out method to evade.​

How many clones can he make exactly only 15 and KM and 14 of these clones are not holding off a v4 standing susanoo the clones are picked off rather easily. They do not have the speed to intercept susanoo arrows going towards to the real naruto or who's ever holding their hands together. Summons gets 1 shotted especially the boss summonings fodder snakes along with aoda can kill off gamakin (Or whatever that thang name is) He pressures the clones in CQC while holding a susanoo blade and enton blade in each hand the other 2 hands casually fires arrows. With his susanoo showing no lack in speed meaning it could move as fast as sasuke on foot possibly faster due to its size. His speed is great he has already shown he can keep up with kmc Naruto in speed and he tracked juubito who is tiers above kmc naruto inconsistent speed so they're movements are no problem at all. Sound genjutsu is a non factor it has a small aoe and lets say sasuke is caught amaterasu burns his arm via path method thus the genjutsu is broken its a non factor here. By this time the battlefield is nothing but pure amaterasu naruto is half dead then sasuke ends this with a susanoo arrow through the chest.

Susanoo arrows are swatted Enton arrows are swatted then the remaining enton are the chakra arms are removed like it was in cannon. Why can't they dodge a standing susanoo assasult? 3Boss toads wrecked Aoda Next!!!!!. Yes he can track Juubito. [

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] who is slower than v2 Juubito so this goes to prove his striking speed isn't anywhere near his tracking speed. You mean via Pain method not Path l0l. Inb4 he tooken out via Rasenshuriken or simply getting his body decimated by chakra arms. It's clear the user [

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] Also does the pain method even work for high level genjutsu? Susanoo arrows are dodged or swatted etc.​

 

[ShogunSpiderman89]

Not sure who wins this 1.

Speed: KCM Naruto

Power: EMS Sasuke

Flexibility on atk: KCM Naruto

Durabilty: EMS Sasuke

 

[Xlad]

Ah, the good old times. Sasuke wins on both scenarios, for sake of replying to an almost 4 year old thread.

 

[Edogawa]

A legged-Susanoo wouldn't be possible without Kurama's Chakra cloak, but even then Naruto still wins. If a Kage can handle 5 legged-Susanoo from Madara, whose superior to this EMS Sasuke, then Naruto whose stronger than the Kages can do so easily. Naruto wins both scenarios low-mid difficulty.

 

[salamander uchiha]

A legged-Susanoo wouldn't be possible without Kurama's Chakra cloak, but even then Naruto still wins. If a Kage can handle 5 legged-Susanoo from Madara, whose superior to this EMS Sasuke, then Naruto whose stronger than the Kages can do so easily. Naruto wins both scenarios low-mid difficulty.

That's not how it works, Kyubi chakra only enhances the strength of an existing jutsu or it's size, not it's stages or grant new abilities.

 

[Edogawa]

That's not how it works, Kyubi chakra only enhances the strength of an existing jutsu or it's size, not it's stages or grant new abilities.

Legged Susanoo isn't a new stage or new ability, it's a completion of the current stage. And since it requires additional Chakra expenditure, something EMS Sasuke didn't have the cloak that enhances and gives more Chakra reserves, it becomes obvious Legged Susanoo was because of the cloak and not Sasuke. As it happened with every person who got Naruto's Chakra.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Legged Susanoo isn't a new stage or new ability, it's a completion of the current stage. And since it requires additional Chakra expenditure, something EMS Sasuke didn't have the cloak that enhances and gives more Chakra reserves, it becomes obvious Legged Susanoo was because of the cloak and not Sasuke. As it happened with every person who got Naruto's Chakra.

That fanfic though? When did it say it requires more chakra? The only thing that happened with more chakra was stronger output. So Sasuke would be able to use the legged Susanoo but it might be stronger. I say might because the Uchiha especially Indra incarnate have powerful chakra.

 

[Edogawa]

That fanfic though? When did it say it requires more chakra? The only thing that happened with more chakra was stronger output. So Sasuke would be able to use the legged Susanoo but it might be stronger. I say might because the Uchiha especially Indra incarnate have powerful chakra.

Creating a lower body for Susanoo requires more Chakra, not stronger Chakra. That’s common sense and you should differentiate between quality and quantity. Anyway, don’t have the intent of prolonging this discussion. Manga ended 5 years ago and all of this should be obvious long ago.