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Sanji has proven to be unpredictable. That skill against a fighter who can see the future for a bit means that Sanji can win this.

Sanji has greater destructive feats than throwing a jellybean really hard.

Sanji one shots this. Doesn't need Ichiji.
 

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Sanji has proven to be unpredictable. That skill against a fighter who can see the future for a bit means that Sanji can win this.

Sanji has greater destructive feats than throwing a jellybean really hard.

Sanji one shots this. Doesn't need Ichiji.
What the **** did i just read?
 

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What the **** did i just read?
The only logical answer this thread will get. Written in the style true wankers can understand.

So this is a match-up between three characters. One of them is Sanji who we know for 20 years. That is fine. The other one is Sanji's brother who can look pretty annoyed and is genetically modified. And the third one is a fortune teller with jelly beans.

Nobody can tell you jack shit about this fight. Every prediction here will be based of a number. Which is Katakuri's bounty. What a weird way to predict and discuss a fight. And even in multiple scenario's.

My my my, I must be surrounded with people who all got amazing CoO haki and can look weeks into the future here. It's either that, or just another open sewer thread to make a shit match-up.

Thanks for the thumbs down guys, I knew that my troll net would at least catch some fat fish that don't understand sarcasm when they read it.
 
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You guys are actually comparing Sanji to that dude? My God, what is wrong with you? Sanji is a Prince! Katakuri is just a bum; a beggar, a nobody.
 
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Im guessing katakuri could win all 3. The third would be ahrd. And yes the bounty definentely means something. We all know how powerful jack is and I dont think you could possibly be more cruel than him. So the extra bounty that katakuri has MUST mean he is more powerful. I dont think sanji can take jack.
 

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The only logical answer this thread will get. Written in the style true wankers can understand.

So this is a match-up between three characters. One of them is Sanji who we know for 20 years. That is fine. The other one is Sanji's brother who can look pretty annoyed and is genetically modified. And the third one is a fortune teller with jelly beans.

Nobody can tell you jack shit about this fight. Every prediction here will be based of a number. Which is Katakuri's bounty. What a weird way to predict and discuss a fight. And even in multiple scenario's.

My my my, I must be surrounded with people who all got amazing CoO haki and can look weeks into the future here. It's either that, or just another open sewer thread to make a shit match-up.

Thanks for the thumbs down guys, I knew that my troll net would at least catch some fat fish that don't understand sarcasm when they read it.
Love Cook is correct. We don't know jack shit about Ichiji or Katakuri. How the **** are you supposed to have ANY idea how this fight would go?

Might as well make up a character from scratch, give him no powers, then ask who wins between him and Aang from The Last Airbender.

Every prediction will be based off "Katakuri's bounty" Lmfao!

Yea, not like he's a sweet commander or anything.
Is that supposed to mean something? Because all commanders of an Emperor's crew are within one point of each other or something? I guess you trained your Observation and acquired Violet's DF to see across the world into the future and read Oda's notes and manuscripts?
 

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My thoughts = you must hate Sanji.
Lmao what? This made me laugh, but why would you say that?
You think Katakuri wins all 3??

You know I love all the SH's anyway..

it would be funny if his bounty doesn't mean anything..
Maybe a big portion of his bounty comes simply from his blood relationship with Big Mom..

The only logical answer this thread will get. Written in the style true wankers can understand.

So this is a match-up between three characters. One of them is Sanji who we know for 20 years. That is fine. The other one is Sanji's brother who can look pretty annoyed and is genetically modified. And the third one is a fortune teller with jelly beans.

Nobody can tell you jack shit about this fight. Every prediction here will be based of a number. Which is Katakuri's bounty. What a weird way to predict and discuss a fight. And even in multiple scenario's.

My my my, I must be surrounded with people who all got amazing CoO haki and can look weeks into the future here. It's either that, or just another open sewer thread to make a shit match-up.

Thanks for the thumbs down guys, I knew that my troll net would at least catch some fat fish that don't understand sarcasm when they read it.
Woah what's the problem here?

I'm asking for opinions and ideas on how yall think these fights could go down..
Something that anyone can share thoughts over..

I like your first post better..

Is that what you really think? (Sarcasm like "Sanji one shots" aside obviously) do you think Sanji wins?

What about your opinion on the Ichiji vs Katakuri fight?


Im guessing katakuri could win all 3. The third would be ahrd. And yes the bounty definentely means something. We all know how powerful jack is and I dont think you could possibly be more cruel than him. So the extra bounty that katakuri has MUST mean he is more powerful. I dont think sanji can take jack.
Damn you think Katakuri can win all 3??

I had a feeling that some people would have different opinions on the 1v1 fights, but I thought for sure that everyone would agree on the 2v1 fight.. with Katakuri losing..


Love Cook is correct. We don't know jack shit about Ichiji or Katakuri. How the **** are you supposed to have ANY idea how this fight would go?

Might as well make up a character from scratch, give him no powers, then ask who wins between him and Aang from The Last Airbender.



Is that supposed to mean something? Because all commanders of an Emperor's crew are within one point of each other or something? I guess you trained your Observation and acquired Violet's DF to see across the world into the future and read Oda's notes and manuscripts?

I'm just asking for people's thoughts/guesses/opinions on the three fights..


What do you personally think though bro?

You think Katakuri wins all 3?!
 

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Woah what's the problem here?

I'm asking for opinions and ideas on how yall think these fights could go down..
Something that anyone can share thoughts over..

I like your first post better..

Is that what you really think? (Sarcasm like "Sanji one shots" aside obviously) do you think Sanji wins?

What about your opinion on the Ichiji vs Katakuri fight?
The problem is that we know nothing about 2 out of the 3 people in this fight. It's silly. Of course I think that Katakuri wins all scenario's after the current introduction. But that has to be the only logical conclusion that everybody has after the last chapter. So the point is that there isn't much flesh on the bone in this thread.

If for some reason Katakuri is a jellybean man with the jelly jelly fruit and has a soft center, and Ichiji has an ability that counters that really well, or if Sanji thinks of a way to dissolve the jelly with a recipe. Then we have something to discuss.

But for now it's a scary man throwing Jelly beans vs a grumpy man in a cape and Sanji. Bounty and rank mean nothing. Especially when you're on the side of the enemy because that means that you will go down sooner or later. And there is no one in the alliance close to that bounty. So that begs the question how ? And until that is revealed there is no use guessing if a made up attack of Ichiji can surpass the unknown CoO capabilities of Dogtooth.

Every prediction will be based off "Katakuri's bounty" Lmfao!

Yea, not like he's a sweet commander or anything.
oooh he has a rang ? Please let me change my prediction and make an uneducated guess. Your way of thinking is so much more logical than mine. Geez look at me not making any baseless accusations.
 
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And its not like Capone fear's him more than Big Mom lol
Dw my dude, some people are just slow on the uptake. Can't follow basic grade school literature, I want to say require spoon feeding, but we're already being spoon fed Lmfao, this is a notch or two above that.

There is always that one guy in the room who needs to ask what 1 + 1 is to get the memo.



Lmao what? This made me laugh, but why would you say that?
You think Katakuri wins all 3??

You know I love all the SH's anyway..
Katakuri 100% wins scenario 1, and most likely wins the other two as well. Ichiji is an unknown rn, but no real reason to place him anywhere near Katakuri. There are only a handful of people on that level and it's more feasible that Ichiji is closer to the other Vinsmokes than Katakuri.

I can tell you one thing though, if Ichiji is anywhere near the other Vinsmokes in strength, he is getting wrecked. Most likely this is the case.

If you switched Ichiji with someone like Judge I could with 100% confidence say, Katakuri shits. The unknown that is Ichiji leaves me with only making an educated guess. Sanji for obvious reasons gets stomped, probably not even low diffed.
 
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The problem is that we know nothing about 2 out of the 3 people in this fight. It's silly. Of course I think that Katakuri wins all scenario's after the current introduction. But that has to be the only logical conclusion that everybody has after the last chapter. So the point is that there isn't much flesh on the bone in this thread.
I think Katakuri loses for sure against both Sanji and Ichiji in a 2v1 though..

We can have somewhat of a guess on these characters power based on comparing them to other characters that we do know about..

If for some reason Katakuri is a jellybean man with the jelly jelly fruit and has a soft center, and Ichiji has an ability that counters that really well, or if Sanji thinks of a way to dissolve the jelly with a recipe. Then we have something to discuss.
I see what you're saying, but this post right here is exactly what I like to read and this is what I was looking for.. theories and ideas.. using our imagination sometimes..


But for now it's a scary man throwing Jelly beans vs a grumpy man in a cape and Sanji. Bounty and rank mean nothing. Especially when you're on the side of the enemy because that means that you will go down sooner or later. And there is no one in the alliance close to that bounty. So that begs the question how ? And until that is revealed there is no use guessing if a made up attack of Ichiji can surpass the unknown CoO capabilities of Dogtooth.
Bounty and rank mean nothing is true, but, to a certain extent..

We can still have somewhat of an understanding on how powerful Ichiji and Katakuri are by looking at their allies, feats, hype and portrayal..

Ichiji: Sanji, the other siblings, and their Dad Judge..

Katakuri: his siblings, and Big Mom, and other Yonko's commanders or top ranks..



That being said... I'm still on the fence about the 1v1 match ups, but I know for sure that I don't think Katakuri would win against Sanji and Ichiji in a 2v1.



Katakuri 100% wins scenario 1, and most likely wins the other two as well. Ichiji is an unknown rn, but no real reason to place him anywhere near Katakuri. There are only a handful of people on that level and it's more feasible that Ichiji is closer to the other Vinsmokes than Katakuri.
I can see what you mean, but there is the possibility of Ichiji being a lot stronger than his brothers and Judge..

So with that in my mind, I see Katakuri losing the 2v1.. being Extreme diff for Sanji and Ichiji of course..

I can tell you one thing though, if Ichiji is anywhere near the other Vinsmokes in strength, he is getting wrecked. Most likely this is the case.
Lol I can agree.. but I'm wondering if Ichiji might end up being significantly stronger than his brothers and father.. idk tho..

If you switched Ichiji with someone like Judge I could with 100% confidence say, Katakuri shits. The unknown that is Ichiji leaves me with only making an educated guess. Sanji for obvious reasons gets stomped, probably not even low diffed.
Lmao I agree bro.. and yeah same here.. the Unknown that is Ichiji is where I start my wishful thinking.. lol (just hoping for an entertaining fight, without any major stomping)
 
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Damn you think Katakuri can win all 3??

I had a feeling that some people would have different opinions on the 1v1 fights, but I thought for sure that everyone would agree on the 2v1 fight.. with Katakuri losing..
Well I think the arc is ramping up to have sanji beat ichiji. I dont know ichijis strength and if sanji will beat him (educated guess is high diff minimum) then that puts him close to ichiji. but based on sanjis current strength and a reasonable guess as to what would be a realistic power boost, he still isnt ready for jack. Katakuris bounty puts him slightly better than jack (oda puts bounties for a reason guys, they arent arbitrary numbers, thats kinda insulting to oda i think So with all that info and some reasonable inflation of sanjis surrent strength, no I do not think ichiji and sanji could beat him. Luffy and nami took an entire day to defeat cracker who by all expectations should be weaker than katakuri. I dont think sanji and ichiji are stronger than luffy and nami by enough to beat katakuri.
 

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So basically, Sanji vs Katakuri, then Katakuri stamping some noob into the carpet, then Katakuri stamping some noob into the carpet while Sanji watches.

Sanji is unlikely to be on the level where he can defeat a Yonkou Commander alone yet. Come Wano, he might be, but until then who knows.

Ichiji is featless, but implied to be weaker than Sanji. Katakuri is also featless, but looks like he wrestles bears for fun. That says it all really.
 

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Well I think the arc is ramping up to have sanji beat ichiji. I dont know ichijis strength and if sanji will beat him (educated guess is high diff minimum) then that puts him close to ichiji. but based on sanjis current strength and a reasonable guess as to what would be a realistic power boost, he still isnt ready for jack. Katakuris bounty puts him slightly better than jack (oda puts bounties for a reason guys, they arent arbitrary numbers, thats kinda insulting to oda i think So with all that info and some reasonable inflation of sanjis surrent strength, no I do not think ichiji and sanji could beat him. Luffy and nami took an entire day to defeat cracker who by all expectations should be weaker than katakuri. I dont think sanji and ichiji are stronger than luffy and nami by enough to beat katakuri.
Oh okay, so you're expecting Sanji and Ichiji to fight eachother..

I wouldn't mind seeing that fight (especially if they both get to go all out) but I honestly can't figure out a proper time for this match up to happen.. at this point in the story it looks like it's going to be everyone who's not with Big Mom, teaming up to go against her.. unless, maybe, they fight after everything with the Big Mom conflict is done..? idk..


So basically, Sanji vs Katakuri, then Katakuri stamping some noob into the carpet, then Katakuri stamping some noob into the carpet while Sanji watches.
Wait..what?


Sanji is unlikely to be on the level where he can defeat a Yonkou Commander alone yet. Come Wano, he might be, but until then who knows.

Ichiji is featless, but implied to be weaker than Sanji. Katakuri is also featless, but looks like he wrestles bears for fun. That says it all really.
Just curious, what makes you say that Ichiji is implied to be weaker than Sanji?

I haven't really seen any portrayal like that myself, but I'm interested in what makes you feel like that.. the Sanji vs Judge skirmish perhaps?

I, on the other hand, have been thinking that it might be possible for Ichiji to be the strongest one out of the Vinsmokes.. but idk yet..
 

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Well.....I don't know but for some reason I am getting a hunch that Ichiji might be a lot stronger than other Vinsmokes and probably he might be key to defeat Katakuri after Big Mom's plans are exposed!. Dunno if he will be able to defeat alone or a tag team!. But we will see!.

At this point claiming either of them wins is a just a 'theory' and 'assumption' to be be very honest!. We haven't seen anything from either Katakuri or Vinsmokes!. Katakuri is a Good Fortune Teller tho!.

I would love to see either Ichiji Vs Katakuri or Vinsmokes Vs Katakuri!. And yeah ain't they are modified humans?!. Pudding showed that 'Jacketed Bullets' are a means to assassinate Vinsmokes in chapter 850 I guess!. Not saying Vinsmokes are totally invulnerable tho!. But we will see!.
 
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