[VS] Katakuri vs marco

[ArabianLuffy]

Beckman----dofla-----luffy-------katakuri/marco-----jinbei/sanji-----cracker/smoothie

This is just wrong. We don't know how far is Beckman strong. I can't bet on him yet. I may consider Doffy as the Freeza of One Piece. Meaning, Doffy can get more stronger than before in Dressrosa. It took Luffy twice or more the effort of Enies Lobby against Lucci. The only thing that puts Katakuri on high list is not his haki, but his Mochi ability. It is serious. Once some touches it, it never let go. As for Cracker, it takes 2 or 3 times King Kong Gun to destroy his armor and do some damage and pain for Cracker which he hates. As I asked before and I ask again: Does Marco's DF have a heat trait? If yes, it may melt Mochi. However, that messy formula you made makes no sense. To list characters from strongest to weakest is not worthy time to analyze each one's powers and abilities. And how unfair! Why not throw Lucci in that silly line of yours? What about Perona? She can stomp Luffy anytime she wants, right? Does that put her above Luffy?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

you are underestimating luffy. Luffy can beat cracker. Nami's work help luffy a lot. But when it comes to worse,luffy will find another way to beat cracker



But it is Oda showing us that luffy's crew and luffy cant deal a yonko yet. Imagine that cracker, 1 of the commander of big mom(probably the weakest of the three). Force luffy to use his gear 4th

Dude it took Luffy (who was spamming G4) 11 hours to beat Cracker even though he had his biscuit soldiers heavily weakened by Nami... And you think that Sanji, who Luffy could mid diff, can beat Cracker?

 

[Jaylord]

Dude it took Luffy (who was spamming G4) 11 hours to beat Cracker even though he had his biscuit soldiers heavily weakened by Nami... And you think that Sanji, who Luffy could mid diff, can beat Cracker?

Yeah i get your side bro

So in total luffy cant be a yonko yet. And he cant deal a yonko.

 

[Bimbonium]

what's wrong dude?

I was asking how you came at that conclusion, like is it feats, portrayal, intuition or what?

Like how can you place Doflamingo above Luffy, cracker and Smoothie (we've see nothing from Smoothie), Luffy needed G4 to start a fight with Cracker, the same G4 that made DD his ******.

Even worse you put doflaming above katakuri and Marco.



Cutting the story, that's my question.

 

[MasqueradeNX]

From what we have seen...

Katakuri>Marco>Cracker>Doflamingo>Luffy>Jinbei.

Could change it up a bit. You could swap Cracker and Doflamingo depending on the scenario. They are kinda equal in my opinion. I think Doflamingo is stronger then Cracker but most people dont agree.
You could also change Katakuri and Marco they are close aswell.

 

[Shanks]

Well it would be interesting i guess Marco is pretty strong since i see him second strongest after shirohige himself and Katakuri is second strongest after Big Moms .

I would give high diff to Marco also because his ancient Zoan ability of becoming phoenix , he is totally hax mate .

 

[BLAZE]

sanji-----cracker

what the hell

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Dofla can cut the biscuits of cracker. He have awakening that can even pierce cracker or smoothie.
If luffy use his strongest attack that beats dofla awakening then it can pulverized crackers biscuit

Luffy used his strongest attacks against cracker dude. And cracker can produce as much biscuits as much as doflamingo produce strings.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Luffy used his strongest attacks against cracker dude. And cracker can produce as much biscuits as much as doflamingo produce strings.

I'm sorry but when was king Kong gun used against cracker??

Also I still don't understands why people r referencing the time frame between the two fights

Sure craackers fight with luffy was longer

But his fight with doffy luffy def fought harder and needed way more help against dofflamingo then he did cracker (no one busted up crackers organs) you also should factor in that luffy needed a break in his fight with doffy..
Lastly the only reason (until proven other wise) luffy was able to fight that long and contend with cracker that long was because he was constantly replenishing his energy/stamina with the food he was consuming... this was stated awhile back that he regains his stamina and will to fight after eating (which he had to do constantly to stay in the fight)

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I'm sorry but when was king Kong gun used against cracker??

That is not his strongest move. His full version canonball is his strongest.

Also I still don't understands why people r referencing the time frame between the two fights

Sure craackers fight with luffy was longer

But his fight with doffy luffy def fought harder and needed way more help against dofflamingo then he did cracker (no one busted up crackers organs) you also should factor in that luffy needed a break in his fight with doffy..
Lastly the only reason (until proven other wise) luffy was able to fight that long and contend with cracker that long was because he was constantly replenishing his energy/stamina with the food he was consuming... this was stated awhile back that he regains his stamina and will to fight after eating (which he had to do constantly to stay in the fight)

No, doflamingo had more help than luffy did. He sent a whole entire country against him and left to fight doffy in a weakened state, even Doflamingo patronized him for that while all doffy had was a stab from gamma knife. and he stitched his organs up so that's no excuse.

And just like you said luffy was eating and replenishing his stamina little by little against cracker but against Doflamingo he did not replenish his stamina at all. He came in the battle handicapped and worn out that he needed a 5 minute break from haki exhaustion. So his fight with Cracker was definitely a lot harder because he wasn't able to beat him easily even after replenishing bit of his stamina to use haki again.

Luffy said that Cracker has the strongest buso haki that he's ever come across, so Doffy can't even compete on that level.