[Discussion] Katakuri is best thing of 2017

[MickNerks]

Bartholomew, Blackbeard, Sengoku, Garp, Nico robin, Perona, Boa hancock, Kizaru, Trafalgar Law, Kaido, Diamond Jozu, Mihawk, Shanks, Gecko moria could possibly beat her.

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The only people on your list who stands a chance is Shanks and Kaido. Everyone else gets dealt with.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

A side character outshines Sanji who is supposed to be the star of this arc lmao XD

Not gonna lie, I was kinda disappointed. Not only did it change her appearance but all it did was enhance her already existing powers.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I don't know about you, but an overweight character with the mindset of a 3 year old is NOT going to be the popular opinion of a lot of people, sorry to tell you.

Blackbeard says hi

 

[Punk Hazard]

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Blackbeard is clumsy and goofy. How are you going to compare that to having the mindset of childish behaviors?

I like how you describe two traits majorly found in children, and then ask how is Blackbeard childish.

While BB was shown to overreact to being hit by attacks and falling over screaming, Big Mom actually displays symptoms of acting like a kid, like with the cake addiction and getting upset when things didn't go her way. All Big Mom does is eat sweets and act gullible. Blackbeard, although he may be awkward in a sense, he doesn't mimic those parallels.

Those are EXACTLY the childish traits of BB, not to mention things like getting into squabbles and fights over pie.

*Also, we haven't seen BB since pre-timeskip, which means he wasn't a yonko back then, which means our expectations for him were definitely not as up to par back then as what we should expect of Big Mom right now.

That's not what you said, fool. You said an overweight character with childish traits wouldn't be popular. Didn't say jack shit about them being an Emperor as well.

A lot of people don't like BM because she is like that shitty villain in those superhero movies that can never hit their target. She keeps missing and she can't seem to catch the SH's despite supposedly being a yonko. If BB came back right now and did the same shit, people would feel the same way about BB as they do BM, so again, kill it with the shitty feminist argument. It doesn't work here.

I didn't say anything about BM's *** lmfao. Take that up with other guy.

 

[Joker]

Big mom definitely isn't the most powerful character in the manga. And her character is yet to be desired. There are many reasons as to why people dislike big mom, one of the reasons being she ain't the generic slim legged shiny smother skinned female typically drawn in one piece.

Bartholomew, Blackbeard, Sengoku, Garp, Nico robin, Perona, Boa hancock, Kizaru, Trafalgar Law, Kaido, Diamond Jozu, Mihawk, Shanks, Gecko moria could possibly beat her.

This is singlehandedly the stupidest reply i’ve ever seen in all my years on this site, LMFAOOOO

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Big mom definitely isn't the most powerful character in the manga. And her character is yet to be desired. There are many reasons as to why people dislike big mom, one of the reasons being she ain't the generic slim legged shiny smother skinned female typically drawn in one piece.

Bartholomew, Blackbeard, Sengoku, Garp, Nico robin, Perona, Boa hancock, Kizaru, Trafalgar Law, Kaido, Diamond Jozu, Mihawk, Shanks, Gecko moria could possibly beat her.

I agree with the bold about beating her. I haven't seen enough of Garp and seeing as his strongest feat is his physical strength, as of now nobody tops big moms durability and strength base. Nico gets shitted. Perona df effects emotion. Big mom is a lot worst when shes upset or depressed. Boa DF cant effect big mom.. Lol she not lusting for the cat.. but all them kids we know what she is lusting for. . Kizaru.. eh hes strong but having an elemental affinity against her isn't strong enough. Promo would melt his ace.. Diamond J not even effecting her base form.. sorry.. Gecko is utterly and utterly trash..

BUT I do agree. big mom is trash and so is her trashy son dogtooth and her lazy ass daughter smoothie

 

[Punk Hazard]

Those traits are found in adolescents and some adults. Being goofy and clumsy is not just a child trait, you moron.

Hence why they're childish traits.

BB doesn't craze over pie like BM does with cake nor does he have a simple mindset like a toddler.

TIL "You said you don't like the pie I like? I'm gonna kill you!" isn't simpleminded.

I didn't have to say it then, but I'm saying it now, so deal with it.

lol Actually expecting BB not to be the same goofy ****ass he was pre-skip just because he became an Emperor

Your response to bringing up BB is to lowkey illustrate that BM is hated for being a woman

Nope, it's to point out that you were wrong that being chidlish and overweight means people won't like you, with Blackbeard being the example that shows why.

which is why you took the time to like his post.

Right, because "You hate BM because she's a womanz" is the only thing he said in that post.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

I agree with the bold about beating her. I haven't seen enough of Garp and seeing as his strongest feat is his physical strength, as of now nobody tops big moms durability and strength base. Nico gets shitted. Perona df effects emotion. Big mom is a lot worst when shes upset or depressed. Boa DF cant effect big mom.. Lol she not lusting for the cat.. but all them kids we know what she is lusting for. . Kizaru.. eh hes strong but having an elemental affinity against her isn't strong enough. Promo would melt his ace.. Diamond J not even effecting her base form.. sorry.. Gecko is utterly and utterly trash..

BUT I do agree. big mom is trash and so is her trashy son dogtooth and her lazy ass daughter smoothie

Perona is underestimated and I knew it. One piece and NV are so different in this aspect. In NV, every body wants plenty of feats. In one piece, every body wants hype over feats. "Big mom is a yonko so no--body c-an beat h-er..." ehh no. You're misunderstanding perona's ability, the person being negative doesn't get more powerful, but rather gets depression and weakened to a child like state. We know only a coward and chronically negative guy can withstand her power. Big mom is a prideful person; who in no means undermines herself.



I wonder if haki works against her ghosts considering only logia is confirmed to be weak against busoshoku haki so her's being paramecia, definitely wouldn't be countered with a haki punch or attack. So big mom get's negative and weakens. It's weird, but just like NV, one piece verse don't actually support ABCD logic. Someone like usopp trumps over perona when someone like zoro was getting slapped left and right.



By that logic and perspective, her durable enough to tank G4 is in no way making her impervious to various other attacks like a eye punching or gouging; like say; by creating a huge hand near her sockets since she isn't that durable in that area. Robin's giant hands have also shown to be stronger than haki imbued arms of luffy, as luffy couldn't survive underwater pressure for seconds, but robin's arms not only survived it; but also twisted the trajectory of the ship. Which is an underestimated feat, considering even zoro admitted he would get crushed if he gets outside the coating for even a second. We know how durable zoro and luffy with armanent coated arm is; especially considering the fact rubber arm is immune to blunt attacks yet underwater pressure overpowered it. This feat makes her capable of hurting big mom with an array of punches and kicks of giant arm and legs. Even oars was suppressed by nico's melded arms in pre-timeskip, whom gecko considered his strongest zombie. She could do the same to big mom and trip her and then immobilize her or target her weaker areas like face, ears, nose, eyes etc and put her in immense pain. Or give a gigantic clutch in her neck which is obviously not as durable as other areas. Two clones + three arms wrecked a commander fishman of arlong's crew and it has been stated fishmen are ten times stronger than regular humans at base, arlong's crew ingested the drug power and muscle enhancers, still she had zero difficulty wrecking him.


That's such an incredible feat capable of hurting and overpowering big mom if she attacks the weaker parts of her body.


Diamond Jozu is underestimated because he was caught by aokiji, but his diamond form + haki enhancement is unbreakable, thats why aokiji had to freeze him during a distraction. He has the durability and strength to wreck big mom on contact.
There's absolutely nothing to say, kizaru can be caught by big mom or even match his speed who is as fast like light by portrayal and feat. He could outrun her and use the laser beams which haven't failed to pierce through anything and the crazy thing is he can aim so accurately from long distances that luffy minute sized key was accurately shredded apart so he could do the same to big mom from a distance.


Gecko is not trash. He is underestimated because of his performance vs luffy but the fact is he faced kaido who is probably much stronger than big mom. He survived the encounter which is even crazier. He can cut shadows easily, big mom having a large body size would have a big shadow; enabling him to pick it up and cut it easily. It's a fact that the victim can't move once the shadow is caught. So big mom won't be using her powers once he picks up her shadow. There are several oneshot scenarios these guys can make.


Big mom falling under boa's beauty is possible; women fall under her beauty; even animals, the only ones proven immune is luffy. She could probably capture prometheous and zeus in stone. Zoro is crazy of swordsmanship, does it mean he'll fall under her spell? Not really. Garp flattened some ten mountains I think to face don chinjao and wrecked don's forehead mountain tip, don is considered a veteran and was equal to luffy's conqueror's haki and armanent durability and garp was considered various times for the position of admiral and was even confident he could kill akainu with his punch considering how sengoku was so quick to stop him from doing it.


Even whitebeard with his haki couldnt greatly hurt akainu. And he punched marco some distance away which a fresh akainu couldnt replicate when he punched a tired marco. So its possible, garp beating her with strength.

 

[JStar King]

I just hate how Oda pissed on Sanji throughout this whole arc. He's basically the One Piece version of Sakura (Kishi did her so dirty :lol) now.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Perona is underestimated and I knew it. One piece and NV are so different in this aspect. In NV, every body wants plenty of feats. In one piece, every body wants hype over feats. "Big mom is a yonko so no--body c-an beat h-er..." ehh no. You're misunderstanding perona's ability, the person being negative doesn't get more powerful, but rather gets depression and weakened to a child like state. We know only a coward and chronically negative guy can withstand her power. Big mom is a prideful person; who in no means undermines herself. I wonder if haki works against her ghosts considering only logia is confirmed to be weak against busoshoku haki so her's being paramecia, definitely wouldn't be countered with a haki punch or attack. So big mom get's negative and weakens. It's weird, but just like NV, one piece verse don't actually support ABCD logic. Someone like usopp trumps over perona when someone like zoro was getting slapped left and right. By that logic and perspective, her durable enough to tank G4 is in no way making her impervious to various other attacks like a eye punching or gouging; like say; by creating a huge hand near her sockets since she isn't that durable in that area. Robin's giant hands have also shown to be stronger than haki imbued arms of luffy, as luffy couldn't survive underwater pressure for seconds, but robin's arms not only survived it; but also twisted the trajectory of the ship. Which is an underestimated feat, considering even zoro admitted he would get crushed if he gets outside the coating for even a second. We know how durable zoro and luffy with armanent coated arm is; especially considering the fact rubber arm is immune to blunt attacks yet underwater pressure overpowered it. This feat makes her capable of hurting big mom with an array of punches and kicks of giant arm and legs. Even oars was suppressed by nico's melded arms in pre-timeskip, whom gecko considered his strongest zombie. She could do the same to big mom and trip her and then immobilize her or target her weaker areas like face, ears, nose, eyes etc and put her in immense pain. Or give a gigantic clutch in her neck which is obviously not as durable as other areas. Two clones + three arms wrecked a commander fishman of arlong's crew and it has been stated fishmen are ten times stronger than regular humans at base, arlong's crew ingested the drug power and muscle enhancers, still she had zero difficulty wrecking him. That's such an incredible feat capable of hurting and overpowering big mom if she attacks the weaker parts of her body.
Diamond Jozu is underestimated because he was caught by aokiji, but his diamond form + haki enhancement is unbreakable, thats why aokiji had to freeze him during a distraction. He has the durability and strength to wreck big mom on contact.
There's absolutely nothing to say, kizaru can be caught by big mom or even match his speed who is as fast like light by portrayal and feat. He could outrun her and use the laser beams which haven't failed to pierce through anything and the crazy thing is he can aim so accurately from long distances that luffy minute sized key was accurately shredded apart so he could do the same to big mom from a distance.
Gecko is not trash. He is underestimated because of his performance vs luffy but the fact is he faced kaido who is probably much stronger than big mom. He survived the encounter which is even crazier. He can cut shadows easily, big mom having a large body size would have a big shadow; enabling him to pick it up and cut it easily. It's a fact that the victim can't move once the shadow is caught. So big mom won't be using her powers once he picks up her shadow. There are several oneshot scenarios these guys can make.
Big mom falling under boa's beauty is possible; women fall under her beauty; even animals, the only ones proven immune is luffy. She could probably capture prometheous and zeus in stone. Zoro is crazy of swordsmanship, does it mean he'll fall under her spell? Not really. Garp flattened some ten mountains I think to face don chinjao and wrecked don's forehead mountain tip, don is considered a veteran and was equal to luffy's conqueror's haki and armanent durability and garp was considered various times for the position of admiral and was even confident he could kill akainu with his punch considering how sengoku was so quick to stop him from doing it. Even whitebeard with his haki couldnt greatly hurt akainu. And he punched marco some distance away which a fresh akainu couldnt replicate when he punched a tired marco. So its possible, garp beating her with strength.

If you want me to read this, space this out bich boy

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

If you want me to read this, space this out bich boy

All spaced out as you ordered, sir

 

[BusinessManTeno]

All spaced out as you ordered, sir

oh nah fam
I aint reading all that cuh
I don't even like big mom bruh
brillax

 

[Bogard]

I'd say Katakuri and Capone for me. Big Meme is a boring antagonist who is playing the role of the buster call this arc, to the point i felt more threat when Luffy escaped from him in the mirror world than her childlish rampage going on for countless chapters pointlessly now. At least those 2 are entertaining. Infact Katakuri is carrying the Big Meme pirates ass since the beginning of the tea party

 

[Hoshigaki Sama]

Don't be sleeping on Perospero. Dude leading the charge with one arm blown off while a Sweet Commander hides as the backup force.