[Discussion] Katakuri is best thing of 2017

[Passerby]

Its a fact!
WCI 2017 was just utter rubbish!

Vinsmokes were hyped and ended up being fodders
Big Mom was a joke
Smoothie did nothing
Sanji chose to save his psychopath family instead of escaping with his crew
Chapters were wasted on Sanji,Pudding and Lola's sister making that cake
Lack of Zoro

Anything else I forgot to mention?

Katakuri on the other is the very definition of 1st mate and the only one who actually did something!
Katakuri did everything that a loyal crew member would do!

His introduction though!

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Best thing about OP 2017!

 

[Caliburn]

If you can't even differentiate between what a fact is supposed to be and your personal opinion, it's really time you start reevaluating your own thoughts.

- Vinsmokes were mostly hyped by the readers themselves. If you formulate unrealistic or baseless expectations, you can only blame yourself when they are not met. The only thing I see you can truly blame them for, is that they were rather naive in believing that they could outwit a Yonkou that easily.

- BM has a terrifying DF ability. She has the KD. She even seems to know Elbaf fighting techs and she commands an army consisting about pretty much anything you can imagine. She even cannibalized and murdered relatives and friends while being unaware of it and at this very moment pretty much everyone is trying to get her to calm down because otherwise they know all of them are doomed. BM is everything I imagined a Yonkou to be: utterly messed up.

- Smoothie hasn't done anything yet and since when was Smoothie that important that she becomes an evaluation point to determine how good the series was this year? We had enough characters, both new and old, who were actively involved in the story.

- Sanji decided to do both, saving the Vinsmokes as well as escaping. Don't blame him for you being completely inept at understanding the psychology of a complicated character.

- Complaining about a few cake-preparing scenes when you are determining the value of OP this year, is simply childish and stupid.

- Half the crew is missing, so? Which characters one wants to see is a personal opinion.


"Fact", right....

 

[Donald J Trump]

I agree personally, Katakuri was easily the best thing that happens in OP in 2017. Big mum is a YONKO with the mental stability of a baby. Sanji went out with Luffy to be a pirate, but can't make simple choices like leaving his undeserving family behind. That's not heroic, that's just plain stupid. When I saw that I didn't think "What a nice guy" I thought "He's such a wasteman".

It's Sanji's year and he gets to bake a cake. Luffy vs Katakuri, Luffy being a little girl and running away every fight now or needing someone's assistant (Nami,Law).

 

[Olorin]

For me personally my fav things about WCI are Big Mom and Totland itself, I think it's wonderful and imaginative, its kind of what i thought of OP for amlong time, for me its the manga eq of Mario or Zelda, might look simple and childish and its easy to just scratch the surface or just want more action and dismiss it pretty fast but if u bother going through you just migh see its one of the greatest

For me WCI was a fantastic One Piece arc and tbh I never cared too much about Katakur and im still loads more intrigued about BM herself, or rather, for me WCI would still be a great arc without him

When year of sanji got announced everyone expected a hype fight, I personally think this arc did much more for his character than a fight ever could. But in the world of shonen fans fights are for character development >>> characters past, family,mimportant personal moments. I keep hearing ppl say sanji had little to no character development which just isnt true and i think you tubers who have very little idea about what character development is are to blame. Ppl forget you tubers are just average fans who happen to dedicate a bit more time to the series compared to most of the casual audience but most (almost all rly)you tubers dont rly know any more about writing than casual fans and in many cases they know less than the average fan, their "opinion" just comes of as more relevant because of yt

Also I literally said ppl should be careful about overhyping the vinsmokes because i knew what was gonna happen, it has before, and i was met with ridicule

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Dogtooth did help the hype level of a yonkou's first mate. Luffy's gonna need something to surpass that level.

 

[Wrappering_]

I liked Sanji the most in this arc, such a composed mother and has a big lovely family, too.

 

[Love Cook]

There he is again Mr. Broken Record.

Don't you ever get tired of yourself ? You've been preaching this gospel of yours nearly every week in the chapter discussion threads. It's getting pretty sad. If something bothers you this much you must have a thing for SM to keep doing this to yourself.

When people think of stereotype fanboys probably an image of someone like you comes to mind. The fact that you have been doing this the entire arc either makes you the most dedicated troll. Or you really are confirming the crybaby stereotype of the fanboy that shits on everything that doesn't play out the way you like to.

Just look at your dumb little list:

Vinsmokes were hyped and ended up being fodders
Big Mom was a joke
Smoothie did nothing
Sanji chose to save his psychopath family instead of escaping with his crew
Chapters were wasted on Sanji,Pudding and Lola's sister making that cake
Lack of Zoro

Vinsmokes ended up like fodder ? In the face of a yonkou everyone is fodder. Yet they have an incredible military force and some of the best scientific prowess we've seen so far. If they were shit, Big Mom wouldn't been interested in the first place. Besides it's so dumb to bring this point up at this point in the story because you know you will eat dick in a couple of chapters because the Vinsmokes will have their redeeming moment when they will save the Strawhats.

Big Mom was a joke ? Only the strongest person we've seen in the manga so far. Wielded the power of the sun and thunder, walked through the ground and rode a wave and destroyed everything in her path. Brushed of Gear 4th and the only injury she sustained from a carefully plotted assassination was a scraped knee. But probably she didn't look badass enough right ? You like the macho men in leather kind of guys if I understand your post correctly.

Smoothie did nothing, So what ? Unlike you Oda doesn't blow all his load at the first chance he gets. You've got to save something for later. But every fanfic writer and their mother think they can tell a better story than the record selling guy who has been doing this for 20 years.

Sanji did what Luffy has done a million times, if the SH's would leave every island without caring about the people. He wouldn't be able to become Pirate King in the end. Think about all the alliances he made by beating tyrants and saving the day. Also I want to bet good money that if Sanji escaped and left his family to die, you would still be here and calling him a pussy for leaving his family behind. Sanji can never win, whatever choice he makes in your eyes.

How many chapters were really about baking the cake. You can't fill 2 entire chapters about it. Would you rather have chapters of Zoro riding on the back of Brownbeard from the gas in Punk Hazard, or Zoro pushing the cage on Dressrosa, Zoro in a cage on Fishman island, Zoro searching for his katanas stolen by a fairy. Does that meet the criteria of action packed Zoro filled chapters.

You're so biased, and your arguments are shit. You shouldn't be reading One Piece because you fail to get the bigger picture. But if you're just reading it for grumpy, badass, muscly leather men maybe you should't try to satisfy your fetish with One Piece, just take some dancing lessons in the Blue Oyster.

 

[Mori Jin]

Of course Katakuri was the only thing not making this whole arc garbage. Baking a cake is what Sanji was needed for this whole arc smh. Why he saved his ungrateful "family", I don't know nor do I care. Just that it was stupid. He should have just left with his crew or tried to. No new feats as far as I remember. Plus the Yonko's crew was a let down (except for Katakuri). Why his "family" is known as assassins I have no idea. They are more like mercenaries then anything else.

 

[Punk Hazard]

He's alright.

There he is again Mr. Broken Record.

Don't you ever get tired of yourself ? You've been preaching this gospel of yours nearly every week in the chapter discussion threads. It's getting pretty sad. If something bothers you this much you must have a thing for SM to keep doing this to yourself.

When people think of stereotype fanboys probably an image of someone like you comes to mind. The fact that you have been doing this the entire arc either makes you the most dedicated troll. Or you really are confirming the crybaby stereotype of the fanboy that shits on everything that doesn't play out the way you like to.

Just look at your dumb little list:



Vinsmokes ended up like fodder ? In the face of a yonkou everyone is fodder. Yet they have an incredible military force and some of the best scientific prowess we've seen so far. If they were shit, Big Mom wouldn't been interested in the first place. Besides it's so dumb to bring this point up at this point in the story because you know you will eat dick in a couple of chapters because the Vinsmokes will have their redeeming moment when they will save the Strawhats.

Big Mom was a joke ? Only the strongest person we've seen in the manga so far. Wielded the power of the sun and thunder, walked through the ground and rode a wave and destroyed everything in her path. Brushed of Gear 4th and the only injury she sustained from a carefully plotted assassination was a scraped knee. But probably she didn't look badass enough right ? You like the macho men in leather kind of guys if I understand your post correctly.

Smoothie did nothing, So what ? Unlike you Oda doesn't blow all his load at the first chance he gets. You've got to save something for later. But every fanfic writer and their mother think they can tell a better story than the record selling guy who has been doing this for 20 years.

Sanji did what Luffy has done a million times, if the SH's would leave every island without caring about the people. He wouldn't be able to become Pirate King in the end. Think about all the alliances he made by beating tyrants and saving the day. Also I want to bet good money that if Sanji escaped and left his family to die, you would still be here and calling him a pussy for leaving his family behind. Sanji can never win, whatever choice he makes in your eyes.

How many chapters were really about baking the cake. You can't fill 2 entire chapters about it. Would you rather have chapters of Zoro riding on the back of Brownbeard from the gas in Punk Hazard, or Zoro pushing the cage on Dressrosa, Zoro in a cage on Fishman island, Zoro searching for his katanas stolen by a fairy. Does that meet the criteria of action packed Zoro filled chapters.

You're so biased, and your arguments are shit. You shouldn't be reading One Piece because you fail to get the bigger picture. But if you're just reading it for grumpy, badass, muscly leather men maybe you should't try to satisfy your fetish with One Piece, just take some dancing lessons in the Blue Oyster.

Don't forget the harrowing scenes of Zoro sleeping and the literary genius of his one-liner at the camera.

And shame on Oda, introducing these characters and not fulfilling on the hype the fans prematurely assigned to them without seeing what they were truly capable of even though their inclusion at this moment in time was to further the characterization of a main character.

 

[MickNerks]

1. Vinsmokes were hyped and ended up being fodders
2. Big Mom was a joke
3. Smoothie did nothing
4. Sanji chose to save his psychopath family instead of escaping with his crew
5. Chapters were wasted on Sanji,Pudding and Lola's sister making that cake
6. Lack of Zoro


Katakuri on the other is the very definition of 1st mate and the only one who actually did something!
Katakuri did everything that a loyal crew member would do!

1. Can you not appreciate character development? Not everyone has to be a mountain buster to be a great part of a strory. The only hype Oda gave the vinsmokes were that they were the Family of Sanji. And obviously not everyone agrees with your views of the vinsmoke seeing how this years character popularity poll placed TWO (2) Vinsmokes in the Top 15 out of all the characters in OP.

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2. "BIG MOM WAS A JOKE"

In what way? She is the strongest character we have seen in the Manga so far, and on top of that she is the ONLY yonko with a revealed backstory and actual character developement.
You must not like her because she is a WOMAN and you cant handle strong female characters.
She killed people this arc, she tanked everything this arc, she destroyed cities, she conntrols the sun and storms (HELL SHE CONTROLS ALL THE ELEMENTS), Most of her children are INTERESTING, She is from ELbaf, As a child she was OP. She has soo much going for her I dont see how you can call he a joke.

3. Yeah, if only we got to see what Smoothie was capable of before the Arc ended............. Oh Wait!!!

4. Once again, I guess characeter developement is your least favprite thing about OP.

5. Oda confirming that Sanji's "Cooking Skills" is in another league compared to a territory filled with other top chefs and cooks is a waste of chapters.... Right..... But Im sure youll get a hardon watching Zoro testing his "Sword Skills" against swordsman on wano.
Sound like a hypocrite to me.

6. No comment SMH

7. "Best Thing about OP 2017" is your opinion.

Just like this was the best thing in OP 2017 in my opinion:

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Lets not be like Trump and confuse opinion for facts

 

[Venomous Cobra]

I absolutely don't get the **** ride for Katakuri though. I mean he's cool and all but nothing special really. I personally like Cracker more personality and ability wise.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

In what way? She is the strongest character we have seen in the Manga so far

Lmao lets not go overboard here. She's still one of the worst top tiers.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Lmao lets not go overboard here. She's still one of the worst top tiers.

Lol in what way exactly? Like we haven't even seen her go all out. Or do anything for the matter. If there was a top ten (can do 20 if you want to include dead chars like WB Rodger etc) what exactly has she done negatiglty to be viewed as bottom of top tier? So where does this speculation come from. Also I agree she's the strongest character we've seen. WB was sick so his entire performance at mainford was hindered because of this. Akainu and akoiji fight was off screen so we don't know exact details because of this. Kaido hasn't been shown fully (yes he has the hype of strongest creature but just talking feats alone he has none except falling and not dying). What big mom does with her df is insane when you actually think about how far her df reaches through out her territory. Likehow much does she actually control. She literally casually blocked an attack that one shotted her son.her island's are basically her power because she's intertwined majority of the terrain with soul.

Honestly yes law might have that immortality thing going for his fruit but big mom fruit in my opinion the strongest fruit that ive seen in this manga and yes that includes white beards (I wonder if he throws a quake at her could she catch it somehow and make it become alive her fruit seems to be limitless). Her fruit literally defys anything that makes sense I think that's why its not talked about to often. Honestly I haven't been this impressed with df usage since kuma (the dude can literally throw emotions etc at you in form of attacks. If he can take out pain and exhaustion both forms of emotion I don't see why he wouldn't be able to be like perona and throw around waves of depressjon or other emotions) (potentially speaking kuma could be a bard on the battlefield, one shotter and healer all at once sorry for rant he's my 3rd fav character after law (1) and doffy (2))

 

[Anduril]

The best thing of 2017 was this,

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[Passerby]

The best thing of 2017 was this,

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A side character outshines Sanji who is supposed to be the star of this arc lmao XD

 

[Love Cook]

Lol in what way exactly? Like we haven't even seen her go all out. Or do anything for the matter. If there was a top ten (can do 20 if you want to include dead chars like WB Rodger etc) what exactly has she done negatiglty to be viewed as bottom of top tier? So where does this speculation come from. Also I agree she's the strongest character we've seen. WB was sick so his entire performance at mainford was hindered because of this. Akainu and akoiji fight was off screen so we don't know exact details because of this. Kaido hasn't been shown fully (yes he has the hype of strongest creature but just talking feats alone he has none except falling and not dying). What big mom does with her df is insane when you actually think about how far her df reaches through out her territory. Likehow much does she actually control. She literally casually blocked an attack that one shotted her son.her island's are basically her power because she's intertwined majority of the terrain with soul.

Honestly yes law might have that immortality thing going for his fruit but big mom fruit in my opinion the strongest fruit that ive seen in this manga and yes that includes white beards (I wonder if he throws a quake at her could she catch it somehow and make it become alive her fruit seems to be limitless). Her fruit literally defys anything that makes sense I think that's why its not talked about to often. Honestly I haven't been this impressed with df usage since kuma (the dude can literally throw emotions etc at you in form of attacks. If he can take out pain and exhaustion both forms of emotion I don't see why he wouldn't be able to be like perona and throw around waves of depressjon or other emotions) (potentially speaking kuma could be a bard on the battlefield, one shotter and healer all at once sorry for rant he's my 3rd fav character after law (1) and doffy (2))

She is a woman with a wacky character design. It's too much to handle for the edgy fanboys.

 

[Hoshigaki Sama]

Any answer that isn't Capone Bege is completely off. Katakuri's cool, I guess, he's not reinventing the god damn wheel though. He's a shining light in the Big Meme pirates, I'll admit. Only him, Perospero, and a few others are worth a damn. But not picking the mastermind Bege is wrong.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Big mom definitely isn't the most powerful character in the manga. And her character is yet to be desired. There are many reasons as to why people dislike big mom, one of the reasons being she ain't the generic slim legged shiny smother skinned female typically drawn in one piece.

Bartholomew, Blackbeard, Sengoku, Garp, Nico robin, Perona, Boa hancock, Kizaru, Trafalgar Law, Kaido, Diamond Jozu, Mihawk, Shanks, Gecko moria could possibly beat her.

 

[Love Cook]

Big mom definitely isn't the most powerful character in the manga. And her character is yet to be desired. There are many reasons as to why people dislike big mom, one of the reasons being she ain't the generic slim legged shiny smother skinned female typically drawn in one piece.

Bartholomew, Blackbeard, Sengoku, Garp, Nico robin, Perona, Boa hancock, Kizaru, Trafalgar Law, Kaido, Diamond Jozu, Mihawk, Shanks, Gecko moria could possibly beat her.

Your list is a joke there are 4 tops on that list that could beat her.

 

[TheNuetrix]

Bartholomew, Blackbeard, Sengoku, Garp, Nico robin, Perona, Boa hancock, Kizaru, Trafalgar Law, Kaido, Diamond Jozu, Mihawk, Shanks, Gecko moria could possibly beat her.

What is this? Is this suppose to be funny, because it's not.
You and I had this conversation in a previous thread, Nico Robin is NOT beating Big Mom. How much potential she has and how powerful she actually is are two different things. Now, not only did you bring this back up but you even went as far as putting Gecko Moria in the picture. You can't be serious. I'm beginning to think you're a troll.
The only people in that list who have any chance at beating Big Mom in a fair fight are Blackbeard, Shanks, Kaido and possibly Mihawk.