[Discussion] Katakuri f'n up the program

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Katakuri's a hype job. I expect the next few chapters to solidify his hype, then subsequently end with him being brutally knocked out.
 

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Katakuri's a hype job. I expect the next few chapters to solidify his hype, then subsequently end with him being brutally knocked out.
By who? That's the question. Anyone can get knocked out, no one on Luffy's side is capable of doing so, definitely not alone.
 

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By who? That's the question. Anyone can get knocked out, no one on Luffy's side is capable of doing so, definitely not alone.
Who is up to opinion, but I'm betting on the Germa. It's just obvious this guy's getting slept pretty soon.
 

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Don't need any feats. Unless Oda is a troll he is the strongest underling of Big Mom's.

The Vinsmokes are nothing, hypeless, featless characters, with trash portrayal at best. They have nothing going for them for me to say they can take down a Yonkou's strongest.

Have faith in Ichiji bro! Again Oda seperates's from the rest of the Vinsmokes! Look how everyone else is in black but Ichiji is white.
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Yea he is the only hope left for that group but meh, don't see him even being that much stronger than Sanji. The rest can be weaker as far as I'm concerned.
 

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He will disrupt the plan for sure. But one way or another big mom is gonna get revealed to be a homie I think. Theres too much foreshadowing with the vivre card for her not to be. It would also explain a lot so I'm putting my money on that.
 

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I am having a hunch that Ichiji might fight against Katakuri when the assassination plan fails and Big Mom's plans are exposed!. But we will see!. Yeah as far as Katakuri is concerned......he might be the one to put a dent in the Bege plan to assassinate Big Mom!.
 

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Do you think that Marco could beat all the Vinsmokes together?
How would I know? We have nothing to show where they stand power wise
Don't need any feats. Unless Oda is a troll he is the strongest underling of Big Mom's.

The Vinsmokes are nothing, hypeless, featless characters, with trash portrayal at best. They have nothing going for them for me to say they can take down a Yonkou's strongest.
No, what they have is nothing going for them either way. They haven't had trash portrayal, they've simply had no portrayal. There has been nothing to place them anywhere on the power scale. They're at zero, which isn't a bad thing or a good thing, it's just neutral.

They're in the same position as basically the Gorosei. Are they trash as well because they have zero combat feat and hype?

There is NOTHING to suggest they're great or that they're trash, so any discussion on how they'd perform in combat is stupid, especially when you're comparing them to a character whose only feat is killing a single fodder.
 

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I wonder if Katakuri can see a general future or just a specific persons future at a time and if it's the latter does he have to be looking at them to read their future or can he think of them and see their future? Can he read minds too or only see what actions they'll take? He could read Bege's future but if he can't read his mind and Bege isn't the shooter for instance then all he would see are Bege's actions which wouldn't spoil the plan.

All that said, the plan will almost certainly fail, the plan would result in a death at the hands of the MC and how often has Oda actually killed characters and how often was Luffy involved? So it's unlikely the plan will work but I'm curious how much Katakuri can see.
Well I honestly think it's gonna be limited, because it's only Observation haki, but it seems like it's only a small window of time as well, just enough tro show him what was gonna happen a few seconds beforehand, and I'm thinking that the plan will backfire, and all hell will break loose, leading to Sanji and of course luffy and a few other having a big moment.
 

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If you really wanna talk about feats, Luffy solos the Vinsmoke royals, let alone Marco/Katakuri.

Inb4 Snarky sarcasm and strawmen as opposed to logical argumentum because Capn 2 smarts.
 
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Whatever the "funny entrance" that Luffy is going to make is accidentally going to be the key for everything. Luffy always surpises us.
 

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Whatever the "funny entrance" that Luffy is going to make is accidentally going to be the key for everything. Luffy always surpises us.
how does luffy suprise us?
he's always doing the same stuff, which is barge in in the most dangerous Situation, do some stupid shit and get saved by plot armor.
 
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