[Discussion] Katakuri can solo doflamingo+crew

[Valhalla]

Ofcourse, doesn't stop him from receiving that portrayal. Also he's the only sweet commander so far who isn't a minister, he's definitely special, that's why Oda saved him for last.

He is defiantly Big Moms right hand. He killed a guy and said tell Mama it was me without even a care in the world. Plus his Haki is on a level we haven't heard of yet in the series.

 

[Kushina89]

Dont worry dear I am not a fanboy

hating without having real facts to back it up doesn't make you look better either :/

 

[Vandenre1ch]

He is defiantly Big Moms right hand. He killed a guy and said tell Mama it was me without even a care in the world. Plus his Haki is on a level we haven't heard of yet in the series.

What about Hawkins & Madam Shirley? What about Luffy seeing Mihawk cutting off his hand in Marineford?

 

[ToshiZO]

Luffy's observation against mihawk was literally at it's earliest stages, that's trash CoO everyone who has coO can do that we just got to see it from that perspective.

Katakuri could see how conversations go down word for word before they happen.

Hawkins didn't see Kaido falling now did he? Katakuri wouldn't have missed such a massive aura.

 

[Valhalla]

What about Hawkins & Madam Shirley? What about Luffy seeing Mihawk cutting off his hand in Marineford?

All true but never has been explained that OH was used in those cases. Luffy and Shirley most likely the case but Hawkins ability could totally be related to his devil fruit. So while I agree with you I just want conformation first. Also remeber when Zoro fought Mr. 1 and he new where the rocks were going to fall? That could have been OH. Or the voice of all things could that be due to OH?

 

[Punk Hazard]

The first seat of the crew is always the strongest or highest bounty only exception is troll characters like usopp so we Know for a fact Dog I'd stronger than Cracker

I know I should stop reading this post because you actually said higher bounty=higher power, but let's give it a go.

Can't compare the situation because once G4 came out doffy was opened up with no resistance.

No resistance? You do realize that Doflamingo was able to force Luffy into a retreat for almost a half hour when he brought out the Awakened strings, right? You do realize Luffy would have been killed in that fight if he didn't have help?

Cracker fought G4 Luffy for 12 hours meaning nothing in his G4 could past thought crackers defense meaning Mingo has no way to get past it as well.

That "fight" was outright stated to have large periods of Luffy running away and hiding. So it's not like Cracker was dueling Luffy for 12 solid hours straight.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

All true but never has been explained that OH was used in those cases. Luffy and Shirley most likely the case but Hawkins ability could totally be related to his devil fruit. So while I agree with you I just want conformation first. Also remeber when Zoro fought Mr. 1 and he new where the rocks were going to fall? That could have been OH. Or the voice of all things could that be due to OH?

The breath of all things. It could've been unconscious use of CoO like with Luffy against Mihawk. Zoro has never been able to do it again and even in Alabasta he said, "I must be able to draw out that power whenever I want. Need more training."

Its like subconscious use of CoC in desperate situations.

 

[Skull Knight]

What about Hawkins & Madam Shirley? What about Luffy seeing Mihawk cutting off his hand in Marineford?

Hawkins is a taro card reader. Why are u connecting him with Observation Haki???

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Hawkins is a taro card reader. Why are u connecting him with Observation Haki???

Because Mr. Raiden, his predictions has been accurate and never wrong. Though it be a DF ability, its still similar. There is also Mada Shirely who can see long term futures that were always accurate.

 

[Skull Knight]

Because Mr. Raiden, his predictions has been accurate and never wrong. Though it be a DF ability, its still similar. There is also Mada Shirely who can see long term futures that were always accurate.

He can't see future. He reads his card. And I remember their was a scene where he re checked Luffy(maybe) future that his death chance never becomes zero.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

He can't see future. He reads his card. And I remember their was a scene where he re checked Luffy(maybe) future that his death chance never becomes zero.

He uses his tarot cards to check the portrayal of any & every outcome. With Kizaru, the cards said his chances of death was 0%. With Luffy, his chances of death never went to 0% no matter how Hawkins tried to predict it. Switch Hawkins with Katakuri. If the cards said that the chance of the broker trying to kill BM was 100%, he'd have the broker killed like with Katakuri.

With Katakuri, he directly sees it. With Hawkins, he can perfectly predict it. Same results but different methods which is why I made the comparison. With Luffy, he & us saw his hand being cut off. We never saw that before with any other use of CoO.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

He can see the future! Doffy gets spanked!

So that fish woman potentially with enough prep can beat anyone as well

Also that is impressive (observation Haki wise) the seeing in future thing however I do not think he's the best that tittle goes to funitora

 

[Passerby]

I like how Katakuri is just chilling and no one notices he is there until he fires the jelly bean.

Stealth level over 9000!

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[Dęvîa Puęrî]

He is defiantly Big Moms right hand. He killed a guy and said tell Mama it was me without even a care in the world. Plus his Haki is on a level we haven't heard of yet in the series.

I'm sorry I can't believe just because he can see into the future he has better observation Haki then then Fuji the dude is blind yet can
Can specifically tel who is who with just observation Haki mind you he can do this inside an entire town full of people

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Luffy's observation against mihawk was literally at it's earliest stages, that's trash CoO everyone who has coO can do that we just got to see it from that perspective.

Katakuri could see how conversations go down word for word before they happen.

Hawkins didn't see Kaido falling now did he? Katakuri wouldn't have missed such a massive aura.

Why are you giving this dude usoops feats Haki is different from everyone (not saying that he count so that we just haven't seen it yet) luffy has observation Haki yet he hasn't shown ability to see aura's

 

[arv993]

Cracker's design was a little outlandish, but it wasn't lame by any means. It was actually very fitting given the setting of WCI. Throw in the fact that he was overpowered G4, his placing on the power scaling is undeniable. Weevil had his strength by a damn admiral and people think he ain't that strong because of his design alone.

This "hype" factor in itself is shallow.

It's not shallow being a yonkos top commander is all u need to be considered to be one of top dogs in OP. Cracker is below this guy so wherever he is its below katakutri.

Weevil is strong but he's looked down upon also because he's a joke character who gets *****ed around by his mom. If someone doesn't put him in the top 3 schibukai as of rn it's stupid. If we see him more he can be above Doffy level guy.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

He probably can tbh. Since he's a Yonko FM, he could probably beat Doflamingo at the higher end of mid diff or the lower end of high diff. The rest of DD's crew are fodders, so they can't do much against him.

 

[Love Cook]

He probably can tbh. Since he's a Yonko FM, he could probably beat Doflamingo at the higher end of mid diff or the lower end of high diff. The rest of DD's crew are fodders, so they can't do much against him.

If they fought as a team Dogtooth would still get his ass kicked. Fighting Doflamingo on flag like surface while stone is trying to swallow him and glue is trying to stick him to it while sugar is only trying to touch him and Jora is trying to turning him into a piece of art.

I don't care how far you can look into the future but fighting that many strong fighters at once is also impossible for him.

These guys with these enormous bounties are not invincible. Luffy and Nami were able to take out Cracker. Jack was having a hard time with dog and cat. I'm sure that Doflamingo would make a pretty good chance if he can pick a partner he is compatible with.