Kaneki vs Shachi

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Shachi (Matasaka Kamishiro) was pretty tough, he even beat centipede Kaneki in Kano's Lab. When fighting Shachi mentioned that due to his Ghoul's body accompanied with training in Martial Arts he was able to become very strong.

Current Kaneki/Sasaki also possesses Ghoul's body and have been trained under Arima, who has surpassed human strength limitations. (We saw Kaneki/Sasaki owning Aogiri Tree members like nothing, even though those probably were just fodders).

So who wins the fight: current Kaneki/Sasaki (using his Kagune (normal and/or centepede) and Arima's Quinques) vs Shachi?

I say Kaneki/Sasaki can win, high diff.
 
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That guy was tough as hell but when Kaneki fought him he wasn't strong enough when it came to muscles like he is now, so going with my boy Haise as well.
 

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Whoa there. Shachi never beat Centipede Kaneki, that was regular Kaneki, not to mention that the fight pretty much proved he can't handle Ken while holding back. True, he did immediately beat him after he got serious, though. Anteiku Raid Kaneki was also stronger and would've fared better, too.

Imo, end-game Centipede Kaneki was definitely stronger than Shachi, but current Haise would get destroyed. It's just that Haise doesn't have that affinity for battle that Ken had, seeing as how he was completely outmatched when faced with an SS-rank like Takizawa, and Shachi's at least on his level. Haise is still struggling with regular S-ranks, no-named SS-ranked ghouls are trouble, and someone like Shachi would probably beat him.
 
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