Kamui useless on katsuyu ?

[FemmeFatale]

A little piece of her did survive not being sucked up by the gravity ball thingy.

 

[BasedRikudo]

Lel . Okay bro .

Kishi kinda is the guy who took 3 chapters hyping up a jutsu only to completely forget about it he's not very good about remembering the little things

 

[~Sky~]

Kishi kinda is the guy who took 3 chapters hyping up a jutsu only to completely forget about it he's not very good about remembering the little things

So Kakashi not being teleported back to the battlefield after Naruto and Minato's combo FTG isn't proof enough that FTG isn't inter-dimensional?

The manga's shown clearly that FTG isn't inter-dimensional, or else Kakashi would've been teleported along with everyone else.

 

[BasedRikudo]

So Kakashi not being teleported back to the battlefield after Naruto and Minato's combo FTG isn't proof enough that FTG isn't inter-dimensional?

The manga's shown clearly that FTG isn't inter-dimensional, or else Kakashi would've been teleported along with everyone else.

Kakashi used up a ton of chakra his kyuubi chakra was likely worn out

This wasn't a major plot point we can't expect kishi to be consistent with whether or not he was going to have kakashi transported back

And the most likely reason is kishi forgot

Every little mistake can't be considered canon FTG to kamui transportation will likely never be included in plot so we can't say for sure whether or not it's true just accept that this is manga and your opinion on the possibility doesn't matter

 

[~Sky~]

Kakashi used up a ton of chakra his kyuubi chakra was likely worn out

That was the case with every shinobi on the battlefield. Naruto restored everyone's chakra.

This wasn't a major plot point we can't expect kishi to be consistent with whether or not he was going to have kakashi transported back

And the most likely reason is kishi forgot

That's an excuse. It's fact that FTG doesn't work inter-dimensionally based on this event. Your only argument otherwise is "plot."

Go to Kishimoto and ask him why Kakashi wan't transported back to the battlefield.

What's the only logical reason? FTG isn't inter-dimensional.

Every little mistake can't be considered canon FTG to kamui transportation will likely never be included in plot so we can't say for sure whether or not it's true just accept that this is manga and your opinion on the possibility doesn't matter

No. Again, you have no facts to disprove what I said, you're just blaming the author because you're wrong.

 

[BasedRikudo]

That was the case with every shinobi on the battlefield. Naruto restored everyone's chakra.



That's an excuse. It's fact that FTG doesn't work inter-dimensionally based on this event. Your only argument otherwise is "plot."

Go to Kishimoto and ask him why Kakashi wan't transported back to the battlefield.

What's the only logical reason? FTG isn't inter-dimensional.



No. Again, you have no facts to disprove what I said, you're just blaming the author because you're wrong.

Kakashi fought the main villain afterwards so yeah he used up all his kyuubi chakra

You're missing the entire point this was not an occurrence brought up if naruto said something along the lines of "kakashi also has kyuubi chakra I guess ftg doesn't work this way" I would count this as proof however it was brushed to the side and never mentioned so most intelligent people would assume its no big deal doesn't prove anything we still don't know

and you have no facts either besides some stupid background plot occurrence that received absolutely no mention written by an author who doesn't have a record for consistency with background plot

 

[erza II]

There's nothing stopping tsunade from summoning another piece. That is true.

However the pieces that get kamui'd are stuck there.

From my understanding, Katsuyu is always just a portion of a much larger Katsuyu. So in essence, the only way Kamui would work would be if full, 100% Katsuyu were Kamui'ed, and considering it took Sakura and Tsunade all their strength to summon just 10% of Katsuyu, the main body is probably very large and thus not in the realms of anyone capability to Kamui.

If Katsuyu were Kamui'ed, all that would need to be done is summon another Katsuyu.

Exactly my point .

Of course if he kamui original katsuyu than its game over

But i think original full katsuyu is never going to be summoned anyway .(i hope she does though)

if this is true then kamui is basically useless on anyone that knows summoning jutsu, since their could use the reverse summoning method

I am not saying the body that got kamui'ed return

I am saying the slug summoner can always summon new katsuyu .

No, Space time Ninjutsu's are not connected.

Only way in or out of kamui is with kamui.

reason why kamui is a 1 shot tech.

Same as above

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Exactly my point .

Of course if he kamui original katsuyu than its game over

But i think original full katsuyu is never going to be summoned anyway .(i hope she does though)


I am not saying the body that got kamui'ed return

I am saying the slug summoner can always summon new katsuyu .




Same as above

Yeah. Then I agree.
This thread is quite logical for a sakura fan(no offence)

 

[Waltz]

And you're a complete idiot for attributing unsaid rules to an imaginary universe. Nowhere does the manga suggest you need a key to get in the kamui dimension and logic would dictate that ftg or reverse summoning does help one escape kamui verse until proven otherwise by the manga

Yet all you've done is to speculate without considering the mechanics of the respective Jutsu.

All Space-time Ninjutsu are not identical, they are each governed by a different set of rules and each have their own unique function; however they all fixate as Space-Time Ninjutsu because they manipulate the Space-Time continuum in some doing. Hirashin allows Namikaze to move at the maximum speed available being the speed of light. As space and time are intertwined as a fabric; the jikūkan Ninjutsu enables Namikaze to progress slower through time, however, covering the maximum space/distance available at that speed. Being that a beam of light could circle the earth around 7.5 times per second, Minato could cover any distanced on the planet tagged with the Jutsu shiki well under a second; however to external observers the movement seems instantaneous. According to the Databook, Kuchiyose-no-Jutsu functions almost identically to Hirashin; instantaneously transporting summons to the desired location of the summoner. Kamui however is a curvature of Space and Time, rivaling a hypothetical wormhole----to another dimension.

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It is really moot whether or not Hirashin/Kuchiyose are a method of escape from Kamui's realm but the actual use of the afore Jutsu's may be limited to the same plane as the user and / or summon.. ​

 

[Flawž]

Yet all you've done is to speculate without considering the mechanics of the respective Jutsu.

All Space-time Ninjutsu are not identical, they are each governed by a different set of rules and each have their own unique function; however they all fixate as Space-Time Ninjutsu because they manipulate the Space-Time continuum in some doing. Hirashin allows Namikaze to move at the maximum speed available being the speed of light. As space and time are intertwined as a fabric; the jikūkan Ninjutsu enables Namikaze to progress slower through time, however, covering the maximum space/distance available at that speed. Being that a beam of light could circle the earth around 7.5 times per second, Minato could cover any distanced on the planet tagged with the Jutsu shiki well under a second; however to external observers the movement seems instantaneous. According to the Databook, Kuchiyose-no-Jutsu functions almost identically to Hirashin; instantaneously transporting summons to the desired location of the summoner. Kamui however is a curvature of Space and Time, rivaling a hypothetical wormhole----to another dimension.

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It is really moot whether or not Hirashin/Kuchiyose are a method of escape from Kamui's realm but the actual use of the afore Jutsu's may be limited to the same plane as the user and / or summon.. ​

Right here.

FTG and Kuchiyose no Jutsu are similar to Kamui but they both function in a different dimension. You cannot Summon yourself into the Kamui dimension nor can you Summon yourself out of it Because Space time ninjutsu's are not connected.