Kamui true power(Kakashis version)

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I think this jutsu is underrated, that's why i'll try to explain what i've noticed about the jutsu eventhough that some probably already noticed it also. Maybe my explanation won't be the best also, so i hope you enjoy reading :p

There are certain things i didn't knew about Kamui before his fight against Obito that i noted and which makes this jutsu dangerous and really overpowered against almost every opponent except Obito(since he also has Kamui). You'll notice that i didn't talked about Minato or Raikage or Naruto and i will explain why later in my argumentation.

Before that, i'll try to explain Kamui and give some examples which makes this techniques more overpowered than some people think

Kamui: His Mangekyou Sharingan allows him to create a space time distortion that send everything around it in the other dimension. Deidara even that not only his arm, but also the space around it. After that he admitted that this type of dojutsu was on , but at that time like Kakashi explains himself,

But it's not the case right now anymore. I even noticed something important and dangerous about Kamui. Before, i thought that Kamui was a move that Kakashi could only use by concentrating a certain time, so a jutsu i thought he couldn't use if he is pressured by an ennemy for example, but Kishimoto proved me wrong during one of the recent chapters.

In fact, Kakashi has shown to be able to use the jutsu in the middle of a close range fight. That shows he mastered this dojutsu to such an extent that he can even kamui a high moving object when himself is moving at high speed with a fearcefull precision and instantly:
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Don't know if you understand what it means, but if it's really how it is, it means that Kakashi is able to kamui in every positions whether he is pressured or not

The power of Kamui also depends on the chakra fixed by the user. More it's great, more it's powerful. It's the reason why Kakashi thought to himself that "this quantity of chakra should be enough". He was talking about the chakra he managed to concentrate, and we've seen how dangerous it was. He almost managed to warp Gedo Mazos neck quickly with it(Gedo Mazo was only saved by Tobi here probably thanks to his own Kamui):
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Why i believe even Minato, Naruto and Raikage could be kamuid:

Obito has Sharingan precognition and Rinnengan, but even him wasn't able to notice that Kakashi used Kamui on this pic:
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After realising how dangerous Kamui is, notice that Tobi said he will pay attention on where the Kamui is used, so great attention with Sharingan and Rinnengan:
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But again, he didn't noticed when Kakashi warped the clone here:
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What does that mean? It means that the jutsu can be invisible probably depending on the size created by the user. It also means that it's instant, that's why Obito didn't even have time to notice when the clone was already warped away

So if the jutsu is instant and invisible, how are Minato, Naruto or Raikage be able to avoid Kamui? Now i'm not saying that they can't beat him. In fact Minato and Naruto are even stronger than him, but Kamui is still dangerous for them

So that's why i think Kamui is really a dangerous technique, something to be feared. It's probably the reason why Kakashi thought that Kamui can't be stopped

Hope you enjoyed reading:ice:
 

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simple:
kakshi: warp things on distance
tobito: warp yourself or things you touch.

ps are you german? wenn ja, dann lol
 

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Every MS ability is "Over-powered" becuase it has not been countered or "stopped," but it has a weakness. On-topic, Kakashi has mastery over Kamui to the extent of warpping anyone or anything. However, I assume, it depends on multiply conditions such as size, Chakra levels, speed, range and etc. I'm not going to say its impossible or I disagree, because it's something already proven fact. I'm already aware how dangerous Kamui is. +Reps for effort.
 

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He wasn't directly fighting tobi and tobi was dealing with naruto and guy. Even with the rinnegan tracking so many targets at once is rough plus he doesn't have much experiance with the Rinnegan.
It is a powerful Jutsu but it has its drawbacks, in the pain arc he killed himself due to over excessive use. Its a massive drain on chakra for a non Uchiha.
I'm not a fan boy for anyone but if Minato can realize he's being brought in by Masked Mans Kamui and teleport himself away I don't see him having a problem with Kakashi's. And for Raikage, he said he was on yellow flash speed levels so the same there.
Naruto being faster than Raikage.....
Hate to destroy your theory (But I do like it!) but facts are facts!
 

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Every MS ability is "Over-powered" becuase it has not been countered or "stopped," but it has a weakness. On-topic, Kakashi has mastery over Kamui to the extent of warpping anyone or anything. However, I assume, it depends on multiply conditions such as size, Chakra levels, speed, range and etc. I'm not going to say its impossible or I disagree, because it's something already proven fact. I'm already aware how dangerous Kamui is. +Reps for effort.
I agree with you. Thanks for reading and thanks for the +rep :)
He wasn't directly fighting tobi and tobi was dealing with naruto and guy. Even with the rinnegan tracking so many targets at once is rough plus he doesn't have much experiance with the Rinnegan.
It is a powerful Jutsu but it has its drawbacks, in the pain arc he killed himself due to over excessive use. Its a massive drain on chakra for a non Uchiha.
I'm not a fan boy for anyone but if Minato can realize he's being brought in by Masked Mans Kamui and teleport himself away I don't see him having a problem with Kakashi's. And for Raikage, he said he was on yellow flash speed levels so the same there.
Naruto being faster than Raikage.....
Hate to destroy your theory (But I do like it!) but facts are facts!
Minato avoided Obitos kamui the first time, but at that time the warping wasn't instant. Later Obito even said he will increase the speed of his Kamui to warp him faster, so Minato wouldn't have been able to avoid it that time if he was caught. Furthermore, Obito stated that Kakashis version of Kamui is faster than his
 
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Kamui is invincible, but you gotta re-consider it about Minato....C'mon man Minato can FTG out of any situation and he has reflexes like no one else in the series or others I have seen...
 

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Kamui is invincible, but you gotta re-consider it about Minato....C'mon man Minato can FTG out of any situation and he has reflexes like no one else in the series or others I have seen...
Obito believed he could warp Minato instantly when they met, and Kakashis Kamui is even faster. Again i'm not saying he will beat Minato, no Minato is just too fast for him. I'm only saying that his Kamui can be dangerous even for Minato, because it's instant and invisible
 

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All is correct. :) I'd give a rep+, but cannot yet. :p

kamui invisible? cool story bro

Obito, even having Sharingan perception and paying close attention to Kakashi, still didn't see Kamui. Yes, it IS invisible, unless Kakashi warps something really massive, for which he needs more chakra. Then it's not instant and not invisible because of that either.
 
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