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I have a thoery that a DMS Obito would possess a Kamui connects to more than one dimension. We see that when Obito leaves the Kamui dimension, he returns to the current NV dimension. Meaning the Kamui is only connected to the current dimension and no other. Why? If Obito is able to open a portal to another dimension (Kamui) while barely consuming chakra, then he should be able to connect the Kamui to more than just one dimension. Several really. Kaguya has already shown us that there are more than one dimension, so Obito should be able to connect Kamui's dimension to all other dimensions, since it can so easily connect to the current dimension. Maybe it's because he's not familiar with the other dimensions that exist? And after the fight when he did become familiar with the other dimensions, he died?
 

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I have a thoery that a DMS Obito would possess a Kamui connects to more than one dimension. We see that when Obito leaves the Kamui dimension, he returns to the current NV dimension. Meaning the Kamui is only connected to the current dimension and no other. Why? If Obito is able to open a portal to another dimension (Kamui) while barely consuming chakra, then he should be able to connect the Kamui to more than just one dimension. Several really. Kaguya has already shown us that there are more than one dimension, so Obito should be able to connect Kamui's dimension to all other dimensions, since it can so easily connect to the current dimension. Maybe it's because he's not familiar with the other dimensions that exist? And after the fight when he did become familiar with the other dimensions, he died?

It is said that the dimensions are created by Kaguya. So I don't see Obito creating new dimensions.
 

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I don't think they are all connected. I think they are separate:

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Obito was baffled on how many Kaguya can connect.

Also, if they were connected, Obito wouldn't had needed to "enter" Kaguya's to find Sasuke. He would have just used Kamui.

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It is said that the dimensions are created by Kaguya. So I don't see Obito creating new dimensions.

Not creating new dimensions, but linking his Kamui dimension to the other existing dimension like he can link Kamui dimension to the current NV dimension.
 

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Too much chakra and he need to form a connection with Dimensions foreign to him.
 

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I don't think they are all connected. I think they are separate:

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Obito was baffled on how many Kaguya can connect.

Also, if they were connected, Obito wouldn't had needed to "enter" Kaguya's to find Sasuke. He would have just used Kamui.

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But isn't he able to connect them through Kamui? Kamui main ability, connecting it's dimension to the current dimension, that's proof enough that it has the ability to connect it's dimension to any dimension (In this case, the current dimension), so long as the user is familiar with the dimension that Kamui Dimension is connecting to. Since Obito has only ever lived in the current dimension, it makes since that it's the only one he can connect Kamui dimsenion to. But the question is, is it possible to connect it with other dimension, had he had become familiar with any other dimension besides Kamui and the current. Almost like Kamui is a bridge, one that is only connecting to the current NV dimension, but he can build more bridges to connect to all of the other dimensions that are possibly out there? *shrugs* just a theory.
 

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Too much chakra

No, not too much chakra. Obito connects Kamui dimension to the current dimension with ease. Unless it just takes a lot more chakra to connect Kamui to foreign dimensions in comparison to the current dimensions connection. He should only need to connect it once though, because I think Kamui is like a bridge between dimensions, and you only need to build a bridge once. Sasuke's mean of connecting to other dimensions doesn't use a bridge, which is why it takes a lot more chakra to be able to jump over the length between the two dimensions.

and he need to form a connection with Dimensions foreign to him.

Maybe.
 

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No, not too much chakra. Obito connects Kamui dimension to the current dimension with ease. Unless it just takes a lot more chakra to connect Kamui to foreign dimensions in comparison to the current dimensions connection. He should only need to connect it once though, because I think Kamui is like a bridge between dimensions, and you only need to build a bridge once. Sasuke's mean of connecting to other dimensions doesn't use a bridge, which is why it takes a lot more chakra to be able to jump over the length between the two dimensions.



Maybe.

Kamui was used to/accustomed to earth dimension, that why Obito able to in and out from Kamui to earth vice versa easily.

Large chakra is a must bcus in manga Kaguya already pave the way for Obito but here Obito did it by itself using Kamui and no Kaguya's portal around.

It will deplete his chakra in the long run if he want to open up portal to other dimension(example: from Ice to Desert dimension)

And another thing is to connect/access all dimensions, Obito must enter Core Dimension first unless he have Rinn Sharingan where he can jump from anywhere.
 
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But Kakashi's eye is linked to the same kamui dimension as Obitos... You think the two together would unlock a bonus one like 2 MS gives susano?
 

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Kamui was used to/accustomed to earth dimension, that why Obito able to in and out from Kamui to earth vice versa easily.

Makes sense

Large chakra is a must because in manga Kaguya already pave the way for Obito but here Obito did it by itself using Kamui and no Kaguya's portal around.

You lost me here.

It will deplete his chakra in the long run if he want to open up portal to other dimension(example: from Ice to Desert dimension)

Of course, jumping from one dimension to another would take a lot of chakra. It's like jumping from on side of a lake to another. However, it would take less energy to go over that lake if there were a bridge built. So theoretically, Kamui working as a bridge should make getting from one side to the other cost less energy.

And another thing is to connect/access all dimensions, Obito must enter Core Dimension first unless he have Rinn Sharingan where he can jump from anywhere.

True.
 

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I don't think they are all connected. I think they are separate:

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Obito was baffled on how many Kaguya can connect.

Also, if they were connected, Obito wouldn't had needed to "enter" Kaguya's to find Sasuke. He would have just used Kamui.

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Second this
 

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Also, if they were connected, Obito wouldn't had needed to "enter" Kaguya's to find Sasuke. He would have just used Kamui.

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That scan specifically shows him using Kamui as a bridge to enter her dimension.
 

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Makes sense



You lost me here.



Of course, jumping from one dimension to another would take a lot of chakra. It's like jumping from on side of a lake to another. However, it would take less energy to go over that lake if there were a bridge built. So theoretically, Kamui working as a bridge should make getting from one side to the other cost less energy.



Ture.

Kamui can be a bridge to every Kaguya's Dimensions but look how opening one bridge cause alot of chakra and he couldnt afford to jump there oftenly without loosing large amount of chakra if no back up supply around him.

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No it will not make it easy/less energy for Obito bcus its not inside Kamui dimension territory but Dimensions foreign to Kamui. You need to understand this. If you can catch it, it solve your problem.
 
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Kamui can be a bridge to every Kaguya's Dimensions but look how opening one bridge cause alot of chakra and he couldnt afford to jump there oftenly without loosing large amount of chakra if no back up supply around him.

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No it will not make it easy/less energy for Obito bcus its not inside Kamui dimension territory but Dimensions foreign to Kamui. You need to understand this. If you can catch it, it solve your problem.

Sooo, if Obito were in the ice dimension and he wanted to use Kamui to get back to the original dimension, it would take a large amount of chakra?
 

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I have a thoery that a DMS Obito would possess a Kamui connects to more than one dimension. We see that when Obito leaves the Kamui dimension, he returns to the current NV dimension. Meaning the Kamui is only connected to the current dimension and no other. Why? If Obito is able to open a portal to another dimension (Kamui) while barely consuming chakra, then he should be able to connect the Kamui to more than just one dimension. Several really. Kaguya has already shown us that there are more than one dimension, so Obito should be able to connect Kamui's dimension to all other dimensions, since it can so easily connect to the current dimension. Maybe it's because he's not familiar with the other dimensions that exist? And after the fight when he did become familiar with the other dimensions, he died?

I think its more of a worm hole type of idea than an actual connection, he can create a worm hole for kamui land the easiest so he stuck to it.

It takes a huge amount of chakra for him to create a worm hole to further demensions but he could, he just never had a reason to.
 

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No,it doesn't work that way,kamui is only connected to the dimension/world the user is in. Obito can only get in and out of the world he is in from kamui land and not multiple worlds,for example,when he his himself in kamui land after arriving in kaguya dimension and when kaguya unleashed her gudodama,kakashi said that if they hide in the kamui dimension they can't get back to the kaguya dimension,if they could go to earth from the kamui land then kakashi wouldn't have been worried.
 

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No,it doesn't work that way,kamui is only connected to the dimension/world the user is in. Obito can only get in and out of the world he is in from kamui land and not multiple worlds,for example,when he his himself in kamui land after arriving in kaguya dimension and when kaguya unleashed her gudodama,kakashi said that if they hide in the kamui dimension they can't get back to the kaguya dimension,if they could go to earth from the kamui land then kakashi wouldn't have been worried.

That signature though :lmao:
 

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Sooo, if Obito were in the ice dimension and he wanted to use Kamui to get back to the original dimension, it would take a large amount of chakra?

Yup considering how vast the space/time and far apart every dimensions from each other.
 
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