Kamui isnt Instant.

[BenjerminGaye]

Minato escaped Kamui while being sucked in. Feat.
Ay dodged point blank amaterasu. Feat.
Rock lee dodged 5 TSB while carrying guy. Feat
Guy. You seen his speed feats.
Naruto deflected 5 tbbs with speed alone. Feat.
Sasuke. Able to keep up with Bm naruto. Feat.
Tobirama. Able to surprise a MS user that was on par with Madara. And teleported a tsb from minato to obito in the blonk of an eye. Feat.

Teuchi able to cook ramen at the speed of light. Feat.

Yet rikudo naruto didn't move an centimeter before double kamui warped kaguya's bone portal.

 

[spade3dg]

Yet rikudo naruto didn't move an centimeter before double kamui warped kaguya's bone portal.

Where is it shown that DMS makes kamui go faster? Or is that just a thing being said in this forum.

 

[PyRoxGoD]

Are u that butthurt bout ur can at dodge kamui thread u had to make another on kamui?

 

[KCMNaruto]

Naruto, Sasuke no problem.

Most likely Kaguya, Hagoromo, Hamura also. Based on BZ's statement the more chakra you have and CAN USE IT PROPERLY(aka perfect chakra control) the faster you become

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Where is it shown that DMS makes kamui go faster? Or is that just a thing being said in this forum.

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Using Kamui together doubles the speed.

 

[KCMNaruto]

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Using Kamui together doubles the speed.

it indeed does, but applying how both long and close range Kamui work we can deduce that it only work when we have too Kamui users where one uses close range kamui on himself and other one uses long-range Kamui on him.

Considering what was spoken above. How one Kamui user with both Kamui ability would replicate such feat ?

Unless he use long range wrap on his arm while keeping it close ot his body... but I am not sure if it work like that.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Intangibility is instant.
Teleporting others is instant.
Teleporting yourself isn't

Then again, Kamui is faster with both eyes.

 

[KidGamer65]

Anyone who reads the manga without Obito/Kakashi's D in their mouth knows that this is true. Though intangibility is instant, it just isn't activated instantly since Obito/Kakashi's reactions aren't instantaneous.

 

[maniaoqan]

Obito's Kamui is working like a portal gate between his dimension and the real world. FTG is different than Kamui. FTG is limited to real world. Both have their advantages.

 

[Dannie]

I have an idea. Let's talk about 1 eyed Kamui Kakashi and then let's see what people will say about it being instant.

 

[Draphsin]

Warping may not be instant, but the only things that have been shown to be faster or as fast as kamui are FTG, kamui itself, & a JJ's gudo damas. & When talking about a double kamui, then it even outspeeds those gudo damas.

So basically only an instantaneous jutsu or kamui itself are the only things that can evade kamui, therefore whether the jutsu is instant or not is irrelevant.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Warping may not be instant, but the only things that have been shown to be faster or as fast as kamui are FTG, kamui itself, & a JJ's gudo damas. & When talking about a double kamui, then it even outspeeds those gudo damas.

So basically only an instantaneous jutsu or kamui itself are the only things that can evade kamui, therefore whether the jutsu is instant or not is irrelevant.

however based on principles at each close and long range Kamui work, we can say only warping himself speed can be doubled, as shown in the manga. I mean You can use long range kamui on your hand while warping himself with close range Kamui so speed will be doubled.

However Long range warping speed won't be doubled as there is no way to use close range Kamui to support long-range kamui version at target staying quite far from you.

Intangibility speed isn't doubled either as this ability just come from one Obito's eye so far, so it wouldn't make it last longer either.... unless kishi retconn.

All DMS gives you is double speed of warping himself or someone from close range. ability to use both Kamui separately or at the same time. Of course no intangibility/phasing and snipping at the same time as fanboys claim

 

[BenjerminGaye]

it indeed does, but applying how both long and close range Kamui work we can deduce that it only work when we have too Kamui users where one uses close range kamui on himself and other one uses long-range Kamui on him.

Considering what was spoken above. How one Kamui user with both Kamui ability would replicate such feat ?

Unless he use long range wrap on his arm while keeping it close ot his body... but I am not sure if it work like that.

Nope. That's just the power of both eyes. When both are together, their true power awakens.
True powers as listed:
Double speed
Hacking into other dimensions
Creating portals(something it couldn't when single)
Susanno.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Nope. That's just the power of both eyes. When both are together, their true power awakens.
True powers as listed:
Double speed
Hacking into other dimensions
Creating portals(something it couldn't when single)
Susanno.

saying Nope will mean nothing, if you can back up your post.
hacking into other dimensions, only because he can use one warp on himself and other at some point to teleport himself to that point.
Creating portas, true
Sussano, true
Double speed, of what everything ? too general

 

[Draphsin]

however based on principles at each close and long range Kamui work, we can say only warping himself speed can be doubled, as shown in the manga. I mean You can use long range kamui on your hand while warping himself with close range Kamui so speed will be doubled.

However Long range warping speed won't be doubled as there is no way to use close range Kamui to support long-range kamui version at target staying quite far from you.

Regardless, long range kamui has pulled off fantastic feats on it's own, including clipping the gedo before it teleported. The only real disadvantage is

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as konan said, but this problem gets repaired with both eyes.

Intangibility speed isn't doubled either as this ability just come from one Obito's eye so far, so it wouldn't make it last longer either.... unless kishi retconn.

Same case for intangibility, it's feats suggest that it doesn't even need the double speed.

All DMS gives you is double speed of warping himself or someone from close range. ability to use both Kamui separately or at the same time. Of course no intangibility/phasing and snipping at the same time as fanboys claim

Double kamui doubles the speed in the areas where it was slower, it also allows obito to attack from inside his dimension & gives him susanoo but those aren't important. What is important is that kamui gains a significant increase in speed where it needed it, & that added speed surpasses gudo damas & makes it near-instant overall.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

saying Nope will mean nothing, if you can back up your post.
hacking into other dimensions, only because he can use one warp on himself and other at some point to teleport himself to that point.
Creating portas, true
Sussano, true
Double speed, of what everything ? too general

Bruh I already backed it up. Both madara and obito said when both eyes are together true power is awakened.
Everything I listed was a result of both eyes.

Nope, both spirals were seen on kaguya's portal when he synced to it. Then both spirals were seen when he went into her core dimension.
Glad u agree
Glad u agree
Warping speed. As the scans I already posted proved.

 

[spade3dg]

Nope. That's just the power of both eyes. When both are together, their true power awakens.
True powers as listed:
Double speed
Hacking into other dimensions
Creating portals(something it couldn't when single)
Susanno.

The double speed was only shown when both focus on one point. The long range aimed where the close range was teleporting. Thats what sped it up.

There is no way both can focus on the same spot from the same body. Nobodybis that crosseyed.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Regardless, long range kamui has pulled off fantastic feats on it's own, including clipping the gedo before it teleported. The only real disadvantage is

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as konan said, but this problem gets repaired with both eyes.

Same case for intangibility, it's feats suggest that it doesn't even need the double speed.

Double kamui doubles the speed in the areas where it was slower, it also allows obito to attack from inside his dimension & gives him susanoo but those aren't important. What is important is that kamui gains a significant increase in speed where it needed it, & that added speed surpasses gudo damas & makes it near-instant overall.

^^ Well all of that is true, i just wanted to remind some too much blinded by feats Obito's fans that both eyes doesn't increase speed of long range Kamui warping, or increasing how long intangibility last, even if it is already haxxed as hell.

Anyway I am glad you didn't argue about Snipping while phasing part, because it would be too OP and even if theoretically possible I am sure Kishi would nerf him so he would be unable to use it.

Bruh I already backed it up. Both madara and obito said when both eyes are together true power is awakened.
Everything I listed was a result of both eyes.

Nope, both spirals were seen on kaguya's portal when he synced to it. Then both spirals were seen when he went into her core dimension.
Glad u agree
Glad u agree
Warping speed. As the scans I already posted proved.

Ok, statement is fine, but need scans of feats rather...

Anyway
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Ok
Ok
just from close range to warp himself or someone - Yes, from long range- no

The double speed was only shown when both focus on one point. The long range aimed where the close range was teleporting. Thats what sped it up.

There is no way both can focus on the same spot from the same body. Nobodybis that crosseyed.

^^ exactly

 

[BenjerminGaye]

The double speed was only shown when both focus on one point. The long range aimed where the close range was teleporting. Thats what sped it up.

There is no way both can focus on the same spot from the same body. Nobodybis that crosseyed.

Say what? Used both on one point.

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[xKiD SPiiD3rMaN]

The double speed was only shown when both focus on one point. The long range aimed where the close range was teleporting. Thats what sped it up.

There is no way both can focus on the same spot from the same body. Nobodybis that crosseyed.

This would be right, but since Kakashi can fully warp himself with only 1 Kamui eye, then it obviously shows Kamui's warping is flexible. Long range Kamui shouldn't work on Kakashi because he can't focus on his entire figure, so you don't have to be crosseyed you just have to master Kamui.