yondaime4
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first of, I will agree kamui is a awesome jutsu, its a near perfect defense and is very diffecult to fight.
that being said lets focus on obito for a sec, he fought minato,foo and torune, konan and now naruto and co.
first i want to point out that every opponent has landed a hit on obito, torune still counts even if obito touched him on purpose because obito needs to touch his oppenent to warp them so thats a weakness, if it wasnt for his zetsu half he would not have been able to be so wreckless against torune.
now konan showed us that obito can only use kamui for 5 minutes of constant use, that is why he had to use izanagi to survive. which he can still use at the cost of his kamui since thats his only sharingan right now. (overpower)
minato taught use that obito has to be solid to attack, leaving him wide ope when trying to make contact.(outspeed)
finally we learned that kakashi and obitos eye go to the same dimension.
now im under the impression that people think obito is the strongest in naruto because he has kamui and i want to squash that, because madara is obv the strongest and sasuke with ems is better than obito. naruto is probably the only other person imo than can take out obito using speed.
how does madara beat obito? by forcing him to use his kamui for five straight minutes like konan did, how? amaterasu, mokutan or pefect susano, basically a very high powered offense, which madara imo is very capable of.
how would sasuke beat obito? blaze release imo is perfect for forcing obito to use kamui as the black flames wont disappear and sasuke can control their movements so that it is always around obito, who needs to solidify before he can absorb himself to teleport forcing obito to stay intangible or use izanagi.
naruto on the other hand could use minatos template and out speed obito, as he is superfast in km, but if that doesnt work kakashi is never that far away and its his show so hed obviously win lol.
my point is that kamui is not absolute and obito can only dodge for so long before his opponents start to figure him out and imo madara and sasuke are bad matchups for obito whos attack power is nowhere near that of susanoo and amaterasu so dodging is his only option. and imo both sasuke and madara are tactical genuis' second to maybe shikaku and shikamaru maybe.( and kakashi fits in somehwere)
while i clearly put obito in top 5 i think its ridiculous to say no one can beat him or that he stomps madara and sasuke, he could def beat any opponent but to think he is undeatable is unrealistic imo
so tell me what you think, i know not everyone will agree so point out my flaws and flame all you want
that being said lets focus on obito for a sec, he fought minato,foo and torune, konan and now naruto and co.
first i want to point out that every opponent has landed a hit on obito, torune still counts even if obito touched him on purpose because obito needs to touch his oppenent to warp them so thats a weakness, if it wasnt for his zetsu half he would not have been able to be so wreckless against torune.
now konan showed us that obito can only use kamui for 5 minutes of constant use, that is why he had to use izanagi to survive. which he can still use at the cost of his kamui since thats his only sharingan right now. (overpower)
minato taught use that obito has to be solid to attack, leaving him wide ope when trying to make contact.(outspeed)
finally we learned that kakashi and obitos eye go to the same dimension.
now im under the impression that people think obito is the strongest in naruto because he has kamui and i want to squash that, because madara is obv the strongest and sasuke with ems is better than obito. naruto is probably the only other person imo than can take out obito using speed.
how does madara beat obito? by forcing him to use his kamui for five straight minutes like konan did, how? amaterasu, mokutan or pefect susano, basically a very high powered offense, which madara imo is very capable of.
how would sasuke beat obito? blaze release imo is perfect for forcing obito to use kamui as the black flames wont disappear and sasuke can control their movements so that it is always around obito, who needs to solidify before he can absorb himself to teleport forcing obito to stay intangible or use izanagi.
naruto on the other hand could use minatos template and out speed obito, as he is superfast in km, but if that doesnt work kakashi is never that far away and its his show so hed obviously win lol.
my point is that kamui is not absolute and obito can only dodge for so long before his opponents start to figure him out and imo madara and sasuke are bad matchups for obito whos attack power is nowhere near that of susanoo and amaterasu so dodging is his only option. and imo both sasuke and madara are tactical genuis' second to maybe shikaku and shikamaru maybe.( and kakashi fits in somehwere)
while i clearly put obito in top 5 i think its ridiculous to say no one can beat him or that he stomps madara and sasuke, he could def beat any opponent but to think he is undeatable is unrealistic imo
so tell me what you think, i know not everyone will agree so point out my flaws and flame all you want
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