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But he should stay away from kamuiland until the Chibaku Tensei is done pulling in stuff.
 

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Hmmmmmmm... That made me think for a bit. But nah I don't think so.

It doesn't have walls and it's not spherical really. It's connecting two planes like a tunnel
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All Kamui is, is a wormhole. Anything that would get near it, including the force from CT would just get fall in.

I can't decide whether it'd fall in like a drain or just cease to exist in this plane and begin existing in kamuiland once it touched that spot.

Either way no collapsing happening lol.

Feel me homie?

this is what you assume we don't know the mechanics behind kamui and probably never will its not our world our physics don't always = there's but assuming it is a wormhole CT is a super dense mass that has its own gravitational pull at least that's what is seems like whats stopping its pull from warping the fabric of the kamui "wormhole"?
 

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Hmmmmmmm... That made me think for a bit. But nah I don't think so.

It doesn't have walls and it's not spherical really. It's connecting two planes like a tunnel
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All Kamui is, is a wormhole. Anything that would get near it, including the force from CT would just get fall in.

I can't decide whether it'd fall in like a drain or just cease to exist in this plane and begin existing in kamuiland once it touched that spot.

Either way no collapsing happening lol.

Feel me homie?
nah, I still disagree. I'm pretty confident that kamui vs CT is akin to fitting a square peg in a round hole.

I don't get the whole ''reality warping'' vibe from kamui, like say izanagi, sorry
the force from CT would stall the dojutsu...maybe if kaguya was using the jutsu it'd be different.
 

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kamui gg ct xd i think it could work but he'd have to wait the duration of the technique before using kamui to teleport his body parts or his body which could get crushed (better off intangibilty for like 30-45 sec which is about the duration of the jutsu)
 
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this is what you assume we don't know the mechanics behind kamui and probably never will its not our world our physics don't always = there's but assuming it is a wormhole CT is a super dense mass that has its own gravitational pull at least that's what is seems like whats stopping its pull from warping the fabric of the kamui "wormhole"?

Hey that's true but when a Justus get a breakdown sometimes real world physics apply. Sometimes not.

But if Kishi were to give a play by play breakdown of Kamui and explained it like this then I'd be comfortable with it.

Buuuut. Google and see if wormholes can collapse lol cuz I'm not sure. What I assumed is any force, matter, etc that got near Kamui would just cease to exist on this plane. It's not opposing the structure of the wormhole, just simply falling in.

However. If wormholes can collapse or be moved then I guess I'm wrong. And if CT has that great of a gravitational pull that it can move Kakashi's Kamui then Super Yang is right and it can be "dissipated"

baseless assumptions

Yeah but so was mine lol.
 
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nah, I still disagree. I'm pretty confident that kamui vs CT is akin to fitting a square peg in a round hole.

I don't get the whole ''reality warping'' vibe from kamui, like say izanagi, sorry
the force from CT would stall the dojutsu...maybe if kaguya was using the jutsu it'd be different.

Well we're both not using the manga or anything like that lol. Just making theories and standing by them until proven otherwise! Things like this no one will ever know the answer to. We just have to agree to disagree or believe in the best theory!

Plus rep bro. These are my favorite types of thread convos
 

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Do people realize that Obito has more than one dimensions?

He told Sakura this when looking for Sasuke.

Even War arc Kakashi will have no problem, he kamui'ed Hachibi and Obito the juubi.
 

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Only side effect is that the Kamui dimension gets raped by CT

No ,I don't think so ,kamui dimension is nearly another world so if ct could rape the real world ,it would rape the kamui dimension
And since ct can't do that to the real world even madara's one ,then it can't do that to kamui dimension too
there are possibility ,ct black ball will vanish as soon as it goes to the other dimension since the connection between it and the user has been canceled
 

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No ,I don't think so ,kamui dimension is nearly another world so if ct could rape the real world ,it would rape the kamui dimension
And since ct can't do that to the real world even madara's one ,then it can't do that to kamui dimension too
there are possibility ,ct black ball will vanish as soon as it goes to the other dimension since the connection between it and the user has been canceled

That's not what I meant.
I meant that the area where the CT was warped into would be raped.

From the looks of it, the Kamui dimension goes on indefinitely.
 

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I agree,also I think teleporting to the other dimension is another counter ,he will have to wait some seconds till ct work ends
He can even teleport out of ct range
I think kamui can counter ct in many ways
 

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Hey that's true but when a Justus get a breakdown sometimes real world physics apply. Sometimes not.

But if Kishi were to give a play by play breakdown of Kamui and explained it like this then I'd be comfortable with it.

Buuuut. Google and see if wormholes can collapse lol cuz I'm not sure. What I assumed is any force, matter, etc that got near Kamui would just cease to exist on this plane. It's not opposing the structure of the wormhole, just simply falling in.

However. If wormholes can collapse or be moved then I guess I'm wrong. And if CT has that great of a gravitational pull that it can move Kakashi's Kamui then Super Yang is right and it can be "dissipated"


just going of how wormholes are formed and what they are tells us that a strong enough gravitational pull could change them or destroy them.

wormholes are effectively tunnels that go through the space-time of the universe and as we know space and time bend when exposed to strong gravity hence the shapes of wormholes as they are thought to exist currently so if you introduce a new opposing GP, logic would dictate it would cause to an issue whether that be collapse or a simple change of destination of the wormhole who knows.
 

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That would probably be impossible. He would end up using Kamui on the rocks flying towards it instead, to many objects too block his vision, which would make him unable to Kamui the actual intended target.
 

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That's not what I meant.
I meant that the area where the CT was warped into would be raped.

From the looks of it, the Kamui dimension goes on indefinitely.

Sorry,I misunderstood you,I though that you mean the whole dimension will be destroyed
Yes ,I agree ,the area of ct range will be destroyed if cut doesnt vanish in the other dimension
 
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just going of how wormholes are formed and what they are tells us that a strong enough gravitational pull could change them or destroy them.

wormholes are effectively tunnels that go through the space-time of the universe and as we know space and time bend when exposed to strong gravity hence the shapes of wormholes as they are thought to exist currently so if you introduce a new opposing GP, logic would dictate it would cause to an issue whether that be collapse or a simple change of destination of the wormhole who knows.

Ok I understand what you're saying.

So the million dollar question- do you think CT could bend, warp, collapse, etc Kamui?


That would probably be impossible. He would end up using Kamui on the rocks flying towards it instead, to many objects too block his vision, which would make him unable to Kamui the actual intended target.

Nah, I don't think Kamui is a line of sight jutsu like Amaterasu. From what we've seen, Kakashi pretty much makes it appear where he wants to. You couldn't simply block it like Gaara's sand did to Amaterasu
 
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Nah, I don't think Kamui is a line of sight jutsu like Amaterasu. From what we've seen, Kakashi pretty much makes it appear where he wants to. You couldn't simply block it like Gaara's sand did to Amaterasu

whoooooaaaaa!!! slow down, U lost me partner. a tactical dojutsu is a tactical dojutsu

I'd have disagree again...
 

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Ok I understand what you're saying.

So the million dollar question- do you think CT could bend, warp, collapse, etc Kamui?

hmmm tough question but id think so since kamui's actual warping point is rather small compared to a real wormhole so it wouldn't take an impossibly strong gravity to tear it apart

by that i mean imagine kamui's spiral like effect hitting the CT black orb as soon as it got close id imagine it would get twisted and turned in multiple directions till it couldn't handle the stress and sorta rip and burst like a balloon

but that's assuming kamui is a wormhole like jutsu and that its mechanics are the same. which i doubt.
 
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