[VS] Kakuzu vs Minato

[Apêx1]

Location: Sand field
Distance: 50m
Restrictions: None
Intel: Full
Mindset: IC
Conditions: Kakuzu has all 5 hearts like he normally should, Suiton capabilities are implicative ie like his other masks

Who takes this?

 

[ATD]

Is rasengan a threat to doton domu ?
I think minato is faster than kakuzu can preform domu, but im not sure
With Gamabunta minato should win

 

[Apêx1]

Is rasengan a threat to doton domu ?
I think minato is faster than kakuzu can preform domu, but im not sure
With Gamabunta minato should win

Domu tanks it.
And Domu is faster than Minato's striking speed, that's a no contest imo.
With Gamabunta I still believe Minato loses since Gian should be capable of killing him.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Minato no diffs

 

[ATD]

Domu tanks it.
And Domu is faster than Minato's striking speed, that's a no contest imo.
With Gamabunta I still believe Minato loses since Gian should be capable of killing him.

What is the masks counter to gamabuntas water cannons ?
Minato will absorb gian with his ftg barrier.
It would be an even battle, but minato is able to use shadow clones which is a big advantage so i would give it to him.

 

[Lariatoo]

I think Minato wins mostly because Rasengan gives internal damage... Check the rooftop battle for example...

 

[maniaoqan]

Rasengan manhandles Domu without trouble.

 

[Apêx1]

What is the masks counter to gamabuntas water cannons ?
Minato will absorb gian with his ftg barrier.
It would be an even battle, but minato is able to use shadow clones which is a big advantage so i would give it to him.

Katon+Futon, Domu tanks it since it's at an elemental advantage, or Kakuzu's own Sution enhanced with Futon.
Minato will not be fast enough to absorb Gian, and he can only absorb the one coming at him, he can't absorb one hitting Bunta's lower body.
Won't help much since Kakuzu still has his tendrils and elements to attack from all sides. Domu still tanks all of their attacks and Minato cannot cut through massive amounts of tendrils.

I think Minato wins mostly because Rasengan gives internal damage... Check the rooftop battle for example...

Rasengan cannot do internal damage when it cannot have any effect on the Domu at all. That's like saying rasengan does damage to Sasuke while behind Susano because it does damage to whatever is inside, when clearly that's not how rasengan works.

 

[ATD]

Katon+Futon, Domu tanks it since it's at an elemental advantage, or Kakuzu's own Sution enhanced with Futon.
Minato will not be fast enough to absorb Gian, and he can only absorb the one coming at him, he can't absorb one hitting Bunta's lower body.

Kakuzu doesn't have suiton skills.
Gamabunta can shot 3 big water cannons in a row which would overwhelm the katon+Futon combination.
Kakashi was fast enough to block gian with raikiri, minato absorbed a big tailed beast bomb from the kyubi, why he shouldn't be able to absorb gian + he showed he can led out the absorbed jutsus near to an other marking, he can send ration gian back to kakuzu.
Gian> Domu

Won't help much since Kakuzu still has his tendrils and elements to attack from all sides. Domu still tanks all of their attacks and Minato cannot cut through massive amounts of tendrils.

minato and his bunshins are faster than the masks.
they won't have problems dodging the masks attacks.
There is still bunta who can attack with his sword or other water cannons.
There will be an opening where minato will mark kakuzus body and waits until kakuzu runs out of hearts, which gets handled by clones and bunta

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

kakuzu mid/high diff if he has all elements.

 

[LuckyMan]

Minato mid difficulties him. FCD kills his hearts band Minato does what to him what he did to Obito.

 

[Apêx1]

Kakuzu doesn't have suiton skills.
Gamabunta can shot 3 big water cannons in a row which would overwhelm the katon+Futon combination.
Kakashi was fast enough to block gian with raikiri, minato absorbed a big tailed beast bomb from the kyubi, why he shouldn't be able to absorb gian + he showed he can led out the absorbed jutsus near to an other marking, he can send ration gian back to kakuzu.
Gian> Domu

I made them implicative.
No, it wouldn't, because water is still water and the Katon+Futon is still the same. Release the 3 bullets in one larger attack and it doesn't change anything because they still get evaporated.
My god.. I said he can't absorb it because he'd only be able to absorb it if it was coming for him. But it's being aimed at Bunta's lower body, so unless Minato runs down it's not happening. And if he runs down then he's not prepping the barrier in time. Raikiri also instantly manifests, barrier has large amounts of seals.

minato and his bunshins are faster than the masks.
they won't have problems dodging the masks attacks.
There is still bunta who can attack with his sword or other water cannons.
There will be an opening where minato will mark kakuzus body and waits until kakuzu runs out of hearts, which gets handled by clones and bunta

Masks are not being released.
They're not released doe.
And gets negged by Gian.
Hearts aren't dying as long as tendrils and Domu are there. No one is being marked since Domu would be the only thing touched. Once the Domu is removed the mark goes away as well. Once he remanifests the Domu it won't be there as this is an entirely new Domu, in case you didn't know. Probably my last reply to you as most of your arguments are not even feasible for Minato.

 

[ATD]

I made them implicative.
No, it wouldn't, because water is still water and the Katon+Futon is still the same. Release the 3 bullets in one larger attack and it doesn't change anything because they still get evaporated.
My god.. I said he can't absorb it because he'd only be able to absorb it if it was coming for him. But it's being aimed at Bunta's lower body, so unless Minato runs down it's not happening. And if he runs down then he's not prepping the barrier in time. Raikiri also instantly manifests, barrier has large amounts of seals.




Masks are not being released.
They're not released doe.
And gets negged by Gian.
Hearts aren't dying as long as tendrils and Domu are there. No one is being marked since Domu would be the only thing touched. Once the Domu is removed the mark goes away as well. Once he remanifests the Domu it won't be there as this is an entirely new Domu, in case you didn't know. Probably my last reply to you as most of your arguments are not even feasible for Minato.

i dont support minato often, but you are underrating his speed.
Minato was able to absorb a tailed beast bomb with the barrier and did the heandseals in time, do you think gian is faster than a tbb ?
Domu turns the skin into diamond, but why should the markings disappear when kakuzu turn the diamond back into flesh ?
we have no proof
what of my arguments are not feasible ? you throw some overhasty comments into the discussion without explaining.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Minato wins this mid diff at best.

Between Sage Mode, Frog Song, Cart Crusher, S/T barrier and enhanced Rasengans I can't see Kakuzu surviving for long.

 

[Gold Lightning]

The amount of blitz that will occur isn't even funny. Kakuzu didn't even detect kakashi blitz from behind. How's kakuzu gonna deal with ftg barrage from all sides.

How funny would it be if Gian gets redirected right back at Kakuzu Lol.

A shadow clone for each heart makes them easy to deal with at once. Rasengan for each in the face, or food cart destroyer, or four symbols seal for each one, or RDS for each, so many methods. Kakashi was evading 3 hearts and Hidan on foot all on his own. This is no problem for Minato.

Minato speed blitzes kakuzu and marks him early on. No one can argue against kakuzu getting marked, it will inevitably happen. Even Naruto feinted Kakuzu twice and hit him with rasenshuriken. How is Minato not touching him with his speed? Domu is neither instant, nor can it be maintained forever. The moment minato marks kakuzu and domu is down, his head is coming off.

Restrict FTG and Minato still wins high diff.

 

[Beans2]

Minato wins this low difficulty

 

[Apêx1]

Minato wins this mid diff at best.

Between Sage Mode, Frog Song, Cart Crusher, S/T barrier and enhanced Rasengans I can't see Kakuzu surviving for long.

Sage Mode doesn't do anything for Minato.
Frog Song is countered with Futon as were Tayuya's sound waves countered with Futon.
S/t Barrier is irrelevant.
Rasengans fail against Domu.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Sage Mode doesn't do anything for Minato.

Yeah, who needs durability, speed, enhanced jutsus, sensing?

Frog Song is countered with Futon as were Tayuya's sound waves countered with Futon.

Comparing Tayuya's ( a... genin? ) sound genjutsu to the Frog Song which is one of the strongest genjutsus in the manga is fairly nonsensical. There's no reasonable way to prove that it would work.

S/t Barrier is irrelevant.

Not at all, every ninjutsu Kakuzu uses can be flung back at him.

Rasengans fail against Domu.

If Minato can touch him it means he can tag him and if he's tagged he's toast.

 

[Apêx1]

Yeah, who needs durability, speed, enhanced jutsus, sensing?

For a short period of time? Not many people.

Comparing Tayuya's ( a... genin? ) sound genjutsu to the Frog Song which is one of the strongest genjutsus in the manga is fairly nonsensical. There's no reasonable way to prove that it would work.

The strength of the genjutsu comes from its effects, not its sound waves. I couldn't care less if she's a Genin or not, Sound Genjutsu is Sound Genjutsu and the sound waves are sound waves. Futon blew sound waves away before so it'll do so again, unless you are suggesting these sound waves are somehow durable, which would make no sense. So there's every reason to believe it would work, and no reason to believe it wouldn't regardless of the Genjutsu's actual strength.

Not at all, every ninjutsu Kakuzu uses can be flung back at him.

Lol, no it can't. Only jutsu's that can be flung back are the slow ones, ie Gian. Futon is not being flung back here, at all.

If Minato can touch him it means he can tag him and if he's tagged he's toast.

No, because Domu or tendrils prevent any attempt at him closing the distance. And even if he magically lands a rasengan, he only needs to cast Domu on that area and then have his tendrils roast Minato. Minato either tires to touch Kakuzu (in which case he domu's that area again) or he teleports to safety, in which case he's gone back to nothing and wasted a load of chakra via FTG and a rasengan..

 

[Bantos]

This could go either way.
I'm giving it to Minato though. High diff.