Kakuzu Vs. Minato

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No. In your current scenario, the masks are already outside of his body. This means that Kakuzu's real body only has one heart and Minato just destroyed it. For Kakuzu to be revived, another mask must merge into his body. After this Minato will realize, if he hasn't already realized, that he must kill Kakuzu multiple times. He then continues to teleport to Kakuzu' body as he continues to revive himself and destroys all 5 hearts because at this point Minato has already Marked Kakuzu's real body.

I'm also still waiting for a counter to this:

Minato isn't known by his base speed. He is known by FTG. That's why he is the fastest.

Kakuzu is 100 old, he has many tactics. He could leave two hearts inside his body for that scenario.
 

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So Minato cant use FTG unless Kakuzu is marked? lolwut....

I never knew that.

he cant use it on kakuzu unless he is marked

Umm ok, well first off, if an attack is slow enough to see coming, as it clearly was, Minato can easily FTG away. Also Minato does not need to weave signs to teleport to a Kunai or Seal. His hands being tied, even though they never would get tied because he could simply teleport away before they are, provides a perfect opportunity for Minato to place a seal on Kakuzu's threads. At this point Kakuzu is screwed because he has been marked.
so throw the whole "Grabbing minato with threads out the window you still didnt prove how minato gets to kakuzu While he is in long range mode he would have 3 elemental hearts with jutsu ready and most likely would be firing at minato from afar meanwhile no kunai of minatos would get close enough to kakuzu due to this
 

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he cant use it on kakuzu unless he is marked


so throw the whole "Grabbing minato with threads out the window you still didnt prove how minato gets to kakuzu While he is in long range mode he would have 3 elemental hearts with jutsu ready and most likely would be firing at minato from afar meanwhile no kunai of minatos would get close enough to kakuzu due to this

Once again I agree.
 

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he cant use it on kakuzu unless he is marked


so throw the whole "Grabbing minato with threads out the window you still didnt prove how minato gets to kakuzu While he is in long range mode he would have 3 elemental hearts with jutsu ready and most likely would be firing at minato from afar meanwhile no kunai of minatos would get close enough to kakuzu due to this
I've said this like 4 times now but, Kakuzu's mask attacks will be used against him with Jikūkan Kekkai, look it up. Although Kakuzu himself can protect against his mask attacks, the masks themselves cannot, and Minato being the genius ninja that he is, will exploit the elemental weaknesses of the masks. For example when the water element mask attacks, Minato will Jikūkan Kekkai to the fire mask, thus destroying it. This would continue until Kakuzu has only one heart left. At this point Kakuzu cannot do anything but defend with Iron skin.
 

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Of course you agree, you only agree to arguments in Kakuzu's favor. This thread is no longer Kakuzu vs Minato. It is Kakuzu fanboys vs Minato...

You call us Kakuzu fanboys, but then we could call you a Minato fanboy.
 

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I've said this like 4 times now but, Kakuzu's mask attacks will be used against him with Jikūkan Kekkai, look it up. Although Kakuzu himself can protect against his mask attacks, the masks themselves cannot, and Minato being the genius ninja that he is, will exploit the elemental weaknesses of the masks. For example when the water element mask attacks, Minato will Jikūkan Kekkai to the fire mask, thus destroying it. This would continue until Kakuzu has only one heart left. At this point Kakuzu cannot do anything but defend with Iron skin.

Kakuzu's threads will take and bring Minato's kunai underground and if he tries to get close to Kakuzu, Kakuzu will attack him with his long-range thread form.
 

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You call us Kakuzu fanboys, but then we could call you a Minato fanboy.
However I am not a Minato fanboy, I have agreed with you on occasions that you stated why Kakuzu could counter one of Minato's attacks. You on the other hand have blatantly ignored hard evidence. What more do I need to say lol. I only continue to post in this thread purely out of amusement to myself, as I find the ridiculous arguments you come up with hilarious.
 

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/sigh The space time barrier takes up much of minato's chakra .. And with huge elemental attacks im not sure he would even to be able to use that for all of them but lets end this thread

Without intel Minato wins mid diff

With intel however( and kakuzu starting in long range mode) : Minato/kakuzu wins ext high diff . its a 50/50 fight
 

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Kakuzu's threads will take and bring Minato's kunai underground and if he tries to get close to Kakuzu, Kakuzu will attack him with his long-range thread form.
Now it is clear to me that you are completely illiterate. I never even mentioned FTG or the kunais associated with the technique in that post. LOOK UP WHAT Jikūkan Kekkai IS!! It will be used to destroy all the masks outside of Kakuzu's body with their own techniques.
 

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/sigh The space time barrier takes up much of minato's chakra .. And with huge elemental attacks im not sure he would even to be able to use that for all of them but lets end this thread

Without intel Minato wins mid diff

With intel however( and kakuzu starting in long range mode) : Minato/kakuzu wins ext high diff . its a 50/50 fight

Yeah, let's end this.
 

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Now it is clear to me that you are completely illiterate. I never even mentioned FTG or the kunais associated with the technique in that post. LOOK UP WHAT Jikūkan Kekkai IS!! It will be used to destroy all the masks outside of Kakuzu's body with their own techniques.

I know, it's the space-time barrier but Minato needs a kunai with his mark to activate that. Let's just end this, let's agree that we disagree.
 

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/sigh The space time barrier takes up much of minato's chakra .. And with huge elemental attacks im not sure he would even to be able to use that for all of them but lets end this thread

Without intel Minato wins mid diff

With intel however( and kakuzu starting in long range mode) : Minato/kakuzu wins ext high diff . its a 50/50 fight
That is your OPINION, I think that in either case, Minato is the superior Shinobi, however you are entitled to it. Although I do not agree with it, I would be happy to end this ridiculous thread.
 

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Well, it did take two Raikiri to stop Kakuzu's attack, but Kakuzu is good at elemental attacks.

Minato never used Odama Rasengan until now, but I'm assuming he can use one.

I had a typo in the previous reply, I meant Kakashi could be using only 1 Raikiri, jus split the lightning equally into each hand after gathering it.

and since in Minato's last fight he used regular Rasengan(slightly bigger) as his killer jutsu, I don't think assuming him having Odama Rasengan is that safe, since Naruto is the only person so far using a upgrade version of Rasengan without any power up forms, and he has sufficient chakra compare to Minato plus needed a clone.
 

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How does minato break through domu?
 

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well personally I believe Minato would win this fight mid-high difficulty, Minato lacks destructive offensive power which makes it difficult while fighting someone with good consistent defense+durability(Kakuzu has, to a certain extend), he lacks elemental attack as well which makes it difficult for him to kill the elemental masks. but Minato's biggest advantages are speed and intelligence, with the combination of the 2, I believe he can always come up with new ways to damage Kakuzu before Kakuzu can think of a counter or to react, just like what Naruto did against him. however Kakuzu has 5 hearts and each one is gonna take one direct attack from the strongest attack of Minato at least to destroy, since Raikiri can only take down 1 at a time and FRS took 2, this gives Kakuzu lots of time to gain experience and figure out Minato's strategy and take away the element of surprise. so with intel it favors Kakuzu a little, without intel it favors Minato a little.
now Minato has a way to counter every Kakuzu attack, such as dodging with Hiraishin or S/T barrier, Kakuzu in his long range form does have a wide attack range and covers lots of ground, so Minato gotta be careful where he teleports to with Hiraishin which I'm sure he's cautious enough to do so, and Kakuzu has a way to counter every Minato attack as well, since Iron Skin is all he needs and his long range form would work well against Minato who has no long range jutsu expect for summonings. so it really comes down to the difference between their battle intelligence is big enough to make up the durability difference, which I believe Minato with the combination of Summoning, Hiraishin and Rasengan, will take this one.
 

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whoever thinks kakuzu's threads, attacks, or jutsu are faster than minato's base speed or that he doesn't have pretty much the best reflexes, are pretty crazy.

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(Had to ftg to kushina, notice the danger, pick her up then shunshin to a tree. I'm sure he didn't have a kunai sitting in that random tree...)


Don't disrespect that base speed.
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whoever thinks kakuzu's threads, attacks, or jutsu are faster than minato's base speed or that he doesn't have pretty much the best reflexes, are pretty crazy.

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(Had to ftg to kushina, notice the danger, pick her up then shunshin to a tree. I'm sure he didn't have a kunai sitting in that random tree...)


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LMFAO at the last picture!! Ok back to topic, I belive that Kakuzu's base speed is better than Minato's base speed.
 

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LMFAO at the last picture!! Ok back to topic, I belive that Kakuzu's base speed is better than Minato's base speed.

there's nothing i can say to change your mind. you probably think kakashi's base speed is also faster than minato and kakuzu is also faster than ay
 

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there's nothing i can say to change your mind. you probably think kakashi's base speed is also faster than minato and kakuzu is also faster than ay

No I don't think Kakashi's base speed is faster than Minato and I believe Kakuzu is faster than Kakashi.
 
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