Kakuzu vs Kisame

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Location: Team Gai vs. Kisame
Starting distance: 20 meters
Intel: Manga
Mindset: IC
Restrictions: Water Prison Shark Dance
Conditions: Kakuzu starts in base, Kisame has the Samehada

Scenario 2: Kisame doesn't have the Samehada
 

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this is always a coin toss 4 me.

kakuzu pros:
-waterdome can be blown away w/ combos from inside
-daikodan is blown away if multiple masks r out from diff angles
-jiongo can disarm samehada
-kakuzu can fly

kisame pros:
-kakuzu cant hurt him outside of cqc range
-do'ton: shark submarine can ambush masks
-kisames stamina will gradually increase
-kisame can fuse & fight under water/spit out a lake

either side high diff.
kakuzu wins Scene 2 mid diff
 

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Kakuzu mid diff.

- Earth Spear Jutsu means physical strikes won't hurt him.
- Being an Earth jutsu user, he easily counters water.
- Extra hearts presumably give him a huge pool of chakra.
- Superior speed out of water.
- Superior taijutsu and base strength.
- Higher scale offensive ninjutsu.
 

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lml shame how different KG's opinions have become

Kisame wins this high diff battle

Kakuzu's lack of a need for air and his thread versatility give Kisame all he can handle in or out of water not to mention domu can tank all his suitons. However GSB eventually takes him out.



Also if Kakuzu attaches himself to his fuuton heart via thread he can float like a balloon lml But no he can't really fly

Well depends on how heavy his wind heart is tbh but I highly doubt it
 

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lml shame how different KG's opinions have become

Kisame wins this high diff battle

Kakuzu's lack of a need for air and his thread versatility give Kisame all he can handle in or out of water not to mention domu can tank all his suitons. However GSB eventually takes him out.



Also if Kakuzu attaches himself to his fuuton heart via thread he can float like a balloon lml But no he can't really fly

Well depends on how heavy his wind heart is tbh but I highly doubt it
It's nowhere near high diff. His lack of a need for air doesn't stop him from getting raped underwater. His threads are easily cut by Samehada, which can protrude from the body when Kisame is fused with it, and his attacks are easily absorbed. It's a godstomp the moment the Water Dome comes out.
 

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It's nowhere near high diff. His lack of a need for air doesn't stop him from getting raped underwater. His threads are easily cut by Samehada, which can protrude from the body when Kisame is fused with it, and his attacks are easily absorbed. It's a godstomp the moment the Water Dome comes out.
It can't protrude from more places at once? Whereas Kakuzu can attack more place than one... 8 masses of thread only one sword Kisame can avoid them but then getting close to him will be a huge problem.

Im well aware that his elemental attacks are useless when Kisame fuses. But alas Kisame has no way of getting close to Kakuzu

I mean yeah you can say GSB from the start would beat Kakuzu if it can absorb inner chakra. But no one fights like that.
You didn't even state how Kisame would win. Just like Kisame can counter Kakuzu's aspects Kakuzu can also counter Kisames you fool hence why I say high diff
 

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It can't protrude from more places at once?




Uh...no.

Whereas Kakuzu can attack more place than one... 8 masses of thread only one sword Kisame can avoid them but then getting close to him will be a huge problem.
Not really. His speed underwater>>>Kakuzu's speed, whether it be movement or the attack speed of his threads. If he gets caught, those spikes free him, so there's literally no issue here no matter what range he's at. If he's fused and the threads attack them, he can cut right through them. If he's not fused, he'd still cut right through them. Evading isn't his only issue here.

Im well aware that his elemental attacks are useless when Kisame fuses. But alas Kisame has no way of getting close to Kakuzu
He does. Hell, they are useless even before that. Kisame can get close to him using subterranean voyage, he can outright run/Shunshin towards him. He can make the area a lake via Bakusui Shoha and ride towards him on a bunch of sharks.


I mean yeah you can say GSB from the start would beat Kakuzu if it can absorb inner chakra. But no one fights like that.
You didn't even state how Kisame would win. Just like Kisame can counter Kakuzu's aspects Kakuzu can also counter Kisames you fool hence why I say high diff
Wasn't going to say GSB at the start, all I said is that it's an easy fight. The fight leading up to waterdome is an easy fight, and water dome is an obliteration in Kisame's favor, not high diff. If it were high diff, he'd have trouble at least once in the match. It's mid diff at the highest.
 

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Uh...no.



Not really. His speed underwater>>>Kakuzu's speed, whether it be movement or the attack speed of his threads. If he gets caught, those spikes free him, so there's literally no issue here no matter what range he's at. If he's fused and the threads attack them, he can cut right through them. If he's not fused, he'd still cut right through them. Evading isn't his only issue here.


He does. Hell, they are useless even before that. Kisame can get close to him using subterranean voyage, he can outright run/Shunshin towards him. He can make the area a lake via Bakusui Shoha and ride towards him on a bunch of sharks.




Wasn't going to say GSB at the start, all I said is that it's an easy fight. The fight leading up to waterdome is an easy fight, and water dome is an obliteration in Kisame's favor, not high diff. If it were high diff, he'd have trouble at least once in the match. It's mid diff at the highest.
Those two scans don't prove anything? He doesn't portrude anything?

As for the first he released it from his body? The threads wouldn't restrain him... they would rip right through him you fool and they would attack at different directions. Front, back sides. No matter where he can spawn that thing ( Which you didn't really sow where) He can't simultaneously chop off a mass of threads just because something protrudes from you anyways? Lml Subterranean Voyage turns the terrain into liquid right? Raiton would obliterate him if he tried and used that in Kakuzu's view it would electrocute the whole liquid area that he's created. Its not like he fuses in it so Samehada can't protect him from all of it. Ride towards him and do what? Try and slash at him with samehada? Threads easily remove it from his grasp doton tanks anything this guy can send except chakra absorption and GSB not to mention Katon + Fuuton combo level the lake Kisame may protect himself via absorbing a portion of it with Samehada but as long as he's not fused he's liable to ambush tactics like gian to the back.
 
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