Kakuzu vs. Itachi

[Booker]

Your entire argument relies on itachi spamming genjutsu on a ninja as old as the first hokage who has been around every kkg and easily knows the tricks of a sharingan. I don't buy it sorry bud Kakuzu just doesnt look at itachi and spams his ninjutsu and itachi wont be able to dodge it all much less counter attack while dealing with 4 of those black masks and kakuzu at the same time.

You don't have "buy it". It's fact.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Bruh, they don't need to be positioned they're autonomous they're constantly flying around itachi and whats the starting distance? 25m or more itachi will never get a chance to genjutsu kakuzu hell be on the defensive the whole time

itachi can blitz at that distance.

 

[Dizzldot]

You don't have "buy it". It's fact.

Show me the scans of itachi fighting kakuzu if thats a fact....oh wait

 

[Dizzldot]

itachi can blitz at that distance.

BS itachi, I said or more, 50-100 he aint doing shit

 

[KidGamer65]

[table="width: 550, align: center"][tr][td]Lol? Kakuzu being able to detach his threads isn't even a legit counter to Amaterasu. Please tell them to stop the Kakuzu wank (I already know I'm going to get a whole bunch of dislikes from them watch). Itachi was even shown to use Amaterasu on two different targets simultaneously. Who's the say Itachi won't simply use Amaterasu on separate locations of Kakuzu's body? Or just use it on his head?

This isn't even debatable; 3T Itachi even shits on Kakuzu.[/td][/tr][/table]

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Right. Pretty ridiculous. This stupid strategy assumes his fodder threads won't be incinerated by the flame on contact let alone long enough for Kakuzu to block them and then detach them. And then even if he were able to survive one attack how the hell does he survive the second? :lol The Kakuzu wank brigade really is something else.

And then there's Genjutsu and Tsukuyomi. As long as Itachi can get in Kakuzu's face for a second landing it won't be hard. Kakashi who is not as fast as Sasuke who is not as fast as Itachi outsped every move Kakuzu made. :lol Let alone Itachi w/ his clone feints and raw speed.

The only thing that makes this match somewhat debatable is that Domu is a bitch to overcome since Itachi lacks firepower without Susanoo. Literally the only thing.

 

[Booker]

Show me the scans of itachi fighting kakuzu if thats a fact....oh wait

I'm refering to Itachi being faster than Kakuzu and employing broken Genjutsu with 3T.

That is fact.

 

[Byakuren]

Bruh, they don't need to be positioned they're autonomous they're constantly flying around itachi and whats the starting distance? 25m or more itachi will never get a chance to genjutsu kakuzu hell be on the defensive the whole time

[table="width: 550, align: center"][tr][td]Flying??? What?? Are you stupid? Do you not realize that contrary to believe, Kakuzu doesn't just start with his mask deployed? If that were the case he wouldn't have had to go through the transition that he did vs Kakashi & co.

It really doesn't matter the distance because Itachi's speed >>>> Kakuzu's jutsu execution speed, as well I could even argue that 3T Itachi could solo said deployed mask if they are "hovering" in a multi-directional sequence with his Shurikenjutsu if he puts enough force, and strikes the masks efficiently. That isn't even a point I need employ though.

Hell, if Kakuzu does what you say, simply crows will solo. Itachi deploys crows -> crows fly to said masks -> Itachi uses clone explosion -> GG.

The hearts are destroyed, and Kakuzu has one heart left. The rest is history.

How will he be on the defensive the whole time when Itachi's arsenal literally allows him to become to oppressor from the get go? Do you not understand Itachi's arsenal is completely revolved around tactical superiority? Use your head, I'm tired of telling you this.[/td][/tr][/table]

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[Dizzldot]

I'm refering to Itachi being faster than Kakuzu and employing broken Genjutsu with 3T.

That is fact.

Zukkoku combined with the wind element covered such a wide range itachi cannot dodge it that alone will be a problem then the water mask and lightning mask attacking him, like what is itachi going to dodge everything?

 

[Booker]

Zukkoku combined with the wind element covered such a wide range itachi cannot dodge it that alone will be a problem then the water mask and lightning mask attacking him, like what is itachi going to dodge everything?

Uh, yes. With zero difficulty. Itachi's speed is nowhere within the realm of Kakuzu or his attacks (in a good way). Everything is easily avoided, clone-feinted, or baited. Itachi goes intangible with crows and Genjutsus him. Goodnight Crapuzu.

 

[Byakuren]

Right. Pretty ridiculous. This stupid strategy assumes his fodder threads won't be incinerated by the flame on contact let alone long enough for Kakuzu to block them and then detach them. And then even if he were able to survive one attack how the hell does he survive the second? :lol The Kakuzu wank brigade really is something else.

And then there's Genjutsu and Tsukuyomi. As long as Itachi can get in Kakuzu's face for a second landing it won't be hard. Kakashi who is not as fast as Sasuke who is not as fast as Itachi outsped every move Kakuzu made. :lol Let alone Itachi w/ his clone feints and raw speed.

The only thing that makes this match somewhat debatable is that Domu is a bitch to overcome since Itachi lacks firepower without Susanoo. Literally the only thing.

[table="width: 550, align: center"][tr][td]This should be changed to 3T Itachi vs Kakuzu honestly. I've no idea what gave the OP the idea that this was a "balanced" battle.

Domu can be dealt with through reality Genjutsu. Remember how Sasuke used it on Deidara to fake being destroyed by Deidara's C4? Kakuzu would fall for the same trick.

Kakuzu uses some pitiful Ninjutsu -> Itachi uses Genjutsu to make it seem like he's killed by the shit technique -> Kakuzu relieves his guard (similar to how he did vs Naruto's 2nd clone feint; I love how idiots call it plot that he got fooled, it just shows his arrogance/stupidity. Fact is fact) -> Domu deactivated -> Itachi proceeds to take out the heart.

This can even be used before Kakuzu performs Domu, because the Sharingan is capable of seeing at really long ranges, similar to the Byakugan (though the Hyuga eye is better in zooming ranges etc.) so Genjutsu from afar would easily be applicable.

What's really astounding is the fact they think Itachi is being hit by any of Kakuzu's Ninjutsu. All of his techniques were shown to be shit tier speed. They were all omninous, but the speed severely lacked. If Shikamaru, Choji, and Ino had time to react how do you think Itachi would?? It's not hard to use your brain. [/td][/tr][/table]

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[Dizzldot]

Uh, yes. With zero difficulty. Itachi's speed is nowhere within the realm of Kakuzu or his attacks (in a good way). Everything is easily avoided, clone-feinted, or baited. Itachi goes intangible with crows and Genjutsus him. Goodnight Crapuzu.

HE doesnt go intangible thats a genjutsu lol he doesnt turn his body into crows

 

[Byakuren]

HE doesnt go intangible thats a genjutsu lol he doesnt turn his body into crows

[table="width: 550, align: center"][tr][td]Yes he does. It's called Crow Clone for a reason. This shows you don't know shit about what you're arguing.[/td][/tr][/table]

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[Dizzldot]

[table="width: 550, align: center"][tr][td]Yes he does. It's called Crow Clone for a reason. This shows you don't know shit about what you're arguing.[/td][/tr][/table]

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Is a clone his real body? show me scans of it saying he can turn into crows or shuttup

 

[Booker]

HE doesnt go intangible thats a genjutsu lol he doesnt turn his body into crows

My mistake.

Itachi scatters dozens of crows around Kakuzu hiding amongst them and uses them to cast Genjutsu. Goodnight Crapuzu.

 

[Dizzldot]

My mistake.

Itachi scatters dozens of crows around Kakuzu hiding amongst them and uses them to cast Genjutsu. Goodnight Crapuzu.

Alright this isn't going anywhere whatever

 

[Byakuren]

Is a clone his real body? show me scans of it saying he can turn into crows or shuttup

[table="width: 550, align: center"][tr][td]Dude, a clone is a manifestation of his real body, you said it was a Genjutsu when that's wrong.

He turns his chakra into crows (i.e. Crow Clone). You're stupid as hell.

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[Dizzldot]

[table="width: 550, align: center"][tr][td]Dude, a clone is a manifestation of his real body, you said it was a Genjutsu when that's wrong.

He turns his chakra into crows (i.e. Crow Clone). You're stupid as hell.

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A clone is not his real body thats what I'm saying, call me stupid you uneducated loser lmfao

 

[KidGamer65]

[table="width: 550, align: center"][tr][td]This should be changed to 3T Itachi vs Kakuzu honestly. I've no idea what gave the OP the idea that this was a "balanced" battle.

Domu can be dealt with through reality Genjutsu. Remember how Sasuke used it on Deidara to fake being destroyed by Deidara's C4? Kakuzu would fall for the same trick.

Kakuzu uses some pitiful Ninjutsu -> Itachi uses Genjutsu to make it seem like he's killed by the shit technique -> Kakuzu relieves his guard (similar to how he did vs Naruto's 2nd clone feint; I love how idiots call it plot that he got fooled, it just shows his arrogance/stupidity. Fact is fact) -> Domu deactivated -> Itachi proceeds to take out the heart.

This can even be used before Kakuzu performs Domu, because the Sharingan is capable of seeing at really long ranges, similar to the Byakugan (though the Hyuga eye is better in zooming ranges etc.) so Genjutsu from afar would easily be applicable.

What's really astounding is the fact they think Itachi is being hit by any of Kakuzu's Ninjutsu. All of his techniques were shown to be shit tier speed. They were all omninous, but the speed severely lacked. If Shikamaru, Choji, and Ino had time to react how do you think Itachi would?? It's not hard to use your brain. [/td][/tr][/table]

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The OP is EjBlack, it's pretty obvious that he wasn't thinking. :lol

And I agree. The only thing he needs to do is get close and force eye contact. :lol Agreed with the bold too. "oh but but he lived for 91 years" "db intelligence stat lolz" is always the typical excuses.

Genjutsu from a far may be applicable, but the further he is the harder it'll be for him to make eye contact with Kakuzu as Kakuzu won't need to look at any specific part of his body to fight from long range, which is why getting close is the best thing he can do here.


Right. Kakashi intercepted Gian from where he got attacked by Hidan right after dodging Atsugai point blank despite Hidan's initial distraction, and his Katon has no speed feats and be avoided by simply jumping over it. They keep on saying "all angles" and stuff like that even though Kakuzu firing his jutsu from 4 directions doesn't mean it covers all angles. Katon doesn't even cover in the air until it erupts and Gian's overall AoE is pathetic. Someone far slower than a top speed Sasuke who is not as fast as a top speed Itachi can evade these techniques. Itachi has raw speed surpassing that on top of clone feints and unreadable hand signs. Kakuzu won't ever hit him before Itachi takes him apart.

And separating his masks for attacks like these only backfires in the end as you said earlier. Itachi's raw speed+shadow or crow clone feints means that he would easily be able to hit the masks with clone great explosion, meaning they die.

 

[Byakuren]

HE doesnt go intangible thats a genjutsu lol he doesnt turn his body into crows

A clone is not his real body thats what I'm saying, call me stupid you uneducated loser lmfao

[table="width: 550, align: center"][tr][td]I wish I could make your brain less stupid tbvh. Look at your previous quote. "That's a Genjutsu." Crow Clone isn't a Genjutsu, the crows spread because whenever his clone is hit/executed to perform dispersion it does just that.

It should be a crime to be so dense.[/td][/tr][/table]

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[Dizzldot]

[table="width: 550, align: center"][tr][td]I wish I could make your brain less stupid tbvh. Look at your previous quote. "That's a Genjutsu." Crow Clone isn't a Genjutsu, the crows spread because whenever his clone is hit/executed to perform dispersion it does just that.

It should be a crime to be so dense.[/td][/tr][/table]

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It should be a crime to pretend you're smart when you probably scraped by highschool with a 2.4 and never made it into community college, sorry didnt mean to tear apart your life.
But when itachi breaks up in to crows, most of the time it is a genjutsu.