Kakuzu vs Hiashi

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Lol its sad all that was necessary, but the simple fact is, as long as he jabs his body, the chakra will be inserted. The only way this fact can be argued against is if his next claim is that Domu isn't his skin. :lol
 

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Stopped reading @ No scans imply that, as I told you exactly where to look and it says exactly that, in words even more beneficial to my argument. A little annoyed I have to tell you where to look and then go get it for you and explain it to you, but oh well.
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"No, a slight touch is enough."

Not only that,
'Even the slightest tap can cause severe internal damage, hence the name "gentle" fist.'

Yeah, yeah, I already concede. No need to go disliking my post. Just saying, if I really believe something then I will argue for it no matter who i'm up against until I truly believe I'm wrong. I'm not sure whether that is a good thing or a bad thing, but I like to think it to be courageous.
 

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Welp, as aggravated as you might all be, I thought this was pretty fun. Even got me some new quotes for my sig. Congrats on proving me wrong ._. my judgement usually steers me right, but not his time.​
 

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Lol its sad all that was necessary, but the simple fact is, as long as he jabs his body, the chakra will be inserted. The only way this fact can be argued against is if his next claim is that Domu isn't his skin. :lol

Wouldn't change anything since it's still made of chakra.

Welp, as aggravated as you might all be, I thought this was pretty fun. Even got me some new quotes for my sig. Congrats on proving me wrong ._. my judgement usually steers me right, but not his time.​

Never happened.
 

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Lol its sad all that was necessary, but the simple fact is, as long as he jabs his body, the chakra will be inserted. The only way this fact can be argued against is if his next claim is that Domu isn't his skin. :lol

Or that his skin isn't his skin.
 

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Never happened.

By saying that, you're contradicting yourself. Because my judgement usually steers me towards agreeing with you (except on this case)
 

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Does Hiashi have any speed feats?

He's never reaching Kakuzu threads are useless (maybe) but Jutsu is not.

Could the threads inside Kakuzu's body simulate armor? They're protecting his organs and are a strong substance.
 

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Does Hiashi have any speed feats?

He's never reaching Kakuzu threads are useless (maybe) but Jutsu is not.

Could the threads inside Kakuzu's body simulate armor? They're protecting his organs and are a strong substance.

He just does this and they become irrelevant [ ]. And nothing apart from his 4 in the databook. Shunshin would still be good without the feats seeing how Hyuuga's are perfect for jutsu which utilise large amounts of chakra from parts of the body which are more difficult to gather chakra from.
 

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He just does this and they become irrelevant [ ]. And nothing apart from his 4 in the databook. Shunshin would still be good without the feats seeing how Hyuuga's are perfect for jutsu which utilise large amounts of chakra from parts of the body which are more difficult to gather chakra from.

You use quite alot of hype and assumptions when debating with Hiashi....... Anyways the full body blow just expells a massive amount of chakra, doesn't change the fact that the threads are there, except for the chakra is being lessened on an area ratio.

It doesn't matter if he can use Shunsin or not, you have no feats for its speed so its irrelevant :lol, Hiashi gets overwhelmed eventually.
 

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Yeah, yeah, I already concede. No need to go disliking my post. Just saying, if I really believe something then I will argue for it no matter who i'm up against until I truly believe I'm wrong. I'm not sure whether that is a good thing or a bad thing, but I like to think it to be courageous.

Admitting you're wrong when you are is a great quality to have. A lot of people will just argue because theyre caught up in their feelings.
 

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That's what I was saying to DK.

Except Domu merely hardens the skins.

Kidoumaru's gold armor is an extra layer which takes the form of metal, so it helps prevent the Gentle Fist from making physical contact with the user's body which prevents chakra from being injected to the organs.
 

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You use quite alot of hype and assumptions when debating with Hiashi....... Anyways the full body blow just expells a massive amount of chakra, doesn't change the fact that the threads are there, except for the chakra is being lessened on an area ratio.

It doesn't matter if he can use Shunsin or not, you have no feats for its speed so its irrelevant :lol, Hiashi gets overwhelmed eventually.

All of which is supported.

The threads are sent all the way back. If Hiashi is hitting Kakuzu, he doesn't need to bother with the threads, the chakra expulsion takes care of them while the hand hits Kakuzu. Simple. Once Hiashi hits Kakuzu he aims for the heart that he can see easily via Byakugan. There's nothing to debate here, Gentle Fist stomps his heart and it shits on his Domu.. I never quantified his shunshin speed either. Kakuzu isn't overwhelming anything here. If he releases the hearts then Air Palm one shots them all.
 
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Yeah, yeah, I already concede. No need to go disliking my post. Just saying, if I really believe something then I will argue for it no matter who i'm up against until I truly believe I'm wrong. I'm not sure whether that is a good thing or a bad thing, but I like to think it to be courageous.

Certainly takes guts to concede. Major respect to you. :)
 

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All of which is supported.

The threads are sent all the way back. If Hiashi is hitting Kakuzu, he doesn't need to bother with the threads, the chakra expulsion takes care of them while the hand hits Kakuzu. Simple. Once Hiashi hits Kakuzu he aims for the heart that he can see easily via Byakugan. There's nothing to debate here, Gentle Fist stomps his heart and it shits on his Domu.. I never quantified his shunshin speed either. Kakuzu isn't overwhelming anything. If he releases the hearts then Air Palm one shots them all.

Air palm :lol they don't need to get that close fuuton forces him into rotation and gian one shots = if fuuton doesn't crush the rotation itself. Questionable if Air palm would work as they've tanked a enlarged chakra palm from Chouji.

Lets not forget he can't fullbody the Ranged mode threads away.
 
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Air palm :lol how embaressing, they don't need to get that close fuuton forces him into rotation and gian one shots = if fuuton doesn't crush the rotation itself. Questionable if Air palm would work as they've tanked a enlarged chakra palm from Chouji.

What? Doesn't matter where they are, Gentle Fist shits on them and they can't evade what they can't see/react to. Also, for someone who has been supporting Kakuzu for so long I'd figured you'd have the scenes remembered. Hearts did not tank anything seeing how one of them died . Futon forces him into rotation? More like Bijuu sized Air Palm shits on it. Either way, hearts are easily taken down, and if stay close to one another a larger Air Palm kills them off in groups. Before any of them use a jutsu, Hiashi would see the chakra build up and send out a Gentle Fist. So much for 'lol' at Gentle Fist.
 

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What? Doesn't matter where they are, Gentle Fist shits on them and they can't evade what they can't see/react to. Also, for someone who has been supporting Kakuzu for so long I'd figured you'd have the scenes remembered. Hearts did not tank anything seeing how one of them died . Futon forces him into rotation? More like Bijuu sized Air Palm shits on it. Either way, hearts are easily taken down, and if stay close to one another a larger Air Palm kills them off in groups. Before any of them use a jutsu, Hiashi would see the chakra build up and send out a Gentle Fist. So much for 'lol' at Gentle Fist.


:lol I'm done here, and for someone supposed to be intellegent you should realize the mask cracked as Kakuzu took the heart within it for his own.... seeing as his fuuton and katon hearts were still present otherwise.

Flip the page and Kakuzu states he's only been through two hearts :rolleyes:
 
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