Kakuzu vs Hashirama

Who wins??

  • Hashirama easy. Are you kidding me??

    Votes: 33 55.0%
  • Hashirama mid-high difficulty

    Votes: 17 28.3%
  • Draw

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • Kakuzu easy

    Votes: 3 5.0%
  • Kakuzu mid-high difficulty

    Votes: 6 10.0%

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this has nothing to do with hype
just the manga obviously pointing out recently who was one of the strongest ninja ever....hashirama i mean by that
get real jesus instead of just picking the underdog just to be different
if u honestly believe kakuzo could stand a chance even against hashirama u better go and play tetris
lmao
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Hashimara would be in trouble. Hashimara is strong no doubt however against someone like Kakuzu its difficult since they are both brute fighters and Kakuzu has the elemental advantage.

Kakuzu, I saw that futon scan that is beast
Pressure Damage? Yes its beast U_U
 

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Kakuzu Akatsuki-mediocrity?? What are you talking about? Yeah he may lose against Pain and Itachi, but i think he could put a good fight, especially against Itachi. Against Itachi i can say it's 55-45 for Itachi, not more than that. Kakuzu could really be a difficult opponent for Itachi since his genjutsus are useless against him(genjutsu takes control of chakra, and Kakuzu has 5chakras, so it's useless). Itachi lacks of stamina, so against an opponent like Kakuzu whose stamina is huge, it could be a pain. He masters 5types of ninjutsus, taijutsu and close combat is useless against him because of his defense, he has experience.
Stop trying to debate when you lack knowledge. It does not matter whether Kakuzu has one or ten chakraflows since this isn't enough to free someone from a Genjutsu. You need someone who interrupts your chakraflow, like an other person or a Biju from the Jinchuriki. And I don't start a debate with you about Itachi, his stamina ans strength, Kakuzu doesn't even stand great chances against the Mangekyou. I don't remember Kakuzu could do something against being hit with Amaterasu by a single glance of Itachi. Or what can Kakuzu do if Itachi activates his Susanoo with Totsuka and Yatas mirror in order to crush him? Tsukuyomi is just the same story. Kakuzu is definitely Akatsuki-mediocrity since Itachi and Pain are quite stronger. I'm tired and don't have the desire to discuss, everyone has his own opinion and imo Kakuzu doesn't stand a chance against Hashirama, end of discussion. And you can call me fanboy or troll, it's just obvious in my meaning.
 
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Hashimara would be in trouble. Hashimara is strong no doubt however against someone like Kakuzu its difficult since they are both brute fighters and Kakuzu has the elemental advantage.
Oh dude,...the meteor, whose size reached the clouds, is a lot smaller than the flower treeworld, even Naruto needed 100 clones with Kyuubis power to stop a way weaker version. If Madaras huge Katon-Jutsu was a small fire compared to the size of the forrest he created, you gonna tell me Kakuzu can stop this attack by crushing the treeworld with his pitiful techniques? It's just a waste of time to debate with you, I'm sorry.
 
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Stop trying to debate when you lack knowledge. It does not matter whether Kakuzu has one or ten chakraflows since this isn't enough to free someone from a Genjutsu. You need someone who interrupts your chakraflow, like an other person or a Biju from the Jinchuriki. And I don't start a debate with you about Itachi, his stamina ans strength, Kakuzu doesn't even stand great chances against the Mangekyou. I don't remember Kakuzu could do something against being hit with Amaterasu by a single glance of Itachi. Or what can Kakuzu do if Itachi activates his Susanoo with Totsuka and Yatas mirror in order to crush him? Tsukuyomi is just the same story. Kakuzu is definitely Akatsuki-mediocrity since Itachi and Pain are quite stronger. I'm tired and don't have the desire to discuss, everyone has his own opinion and imo Kakuzu doesn't stand a chance against Hashirama, end of discussion. And you can call me fanboy or troll, it's just obvious in my meaning.
so since two members are stronger, hes mediocre?
 

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hashirama takes this easily. the only argument people come up with is since kakuzu barely survived the scuffle with hashirama when he didnt have hearts that he would give him a hard time now:sy:. bullshit. nothing is known about that fight and kakuzu talked about it like he got his ass kicked. he bragged about coming out that fight alive. if madaras huge katon that took an entire division of suiton users to extinguish didnt even put a noticeable dent in mokuton then kakuzu isnt doing anything to mokuton.
 

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kakuzu is strong, but based on what we have seen from madaras stolen power from hashirama (which supposed to be just a fragment of hashiramas power) the kakuzu we know is just not comparable to him.
 

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so since two members are stronger, hes mediocre?
Hmm I would say Kisame is stronger too. Look at the other members. Sasori, who has his 100 puppets and can switch his heart within them, has the Sandaime Kazekage with his iron sand, his Hiruko and he himself is a puppet too. Or what about Deidara and his bombs, his 10km large explosion, his flight art or his C4 which dissolves you to dust. Itachi and Pain are Akatsukis top tier Shinobis, Kisame is near to them too and before them the other members are medicore. Stop overstimate Kakuzu so much, we're talking about the first Hokage who has beaten Madara with the Kyuubi, Kakuzu just can't stand a chance against him.
 

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For me, Sasori is the weakest Akatsuki member. He got killed by a grandma and a little weak girl like Sakura. Kisame too strong for Kakuzu? I don't think so. I think Kakuzu is stronger than him but not by much. Yes of course with Samehada he can absorb chakra, but Kakuzu is not stupid at all, and in close combat he has advantage, so he could use combination of jutsus to distract Kisame when he absorbs it with Samehada and takes advantage of this to destroy him in taijutsu. I also see him much more stronger than Deidara. He has raiton to neutralise his explosions, his jutsus have an important scale, so he could overwhelm Deidara with it so that he doesn't even have time to use his best moves(Deidara needs time to manipulate his argile and use it against opponents). His monster could even fly if it's needed, and he has 5hearts, so he must get killed 5times and it won't be that easy. I think you're the one who underestimate Kakuzu here.
 

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Kakuzu is a beast:
He has 5 hearts
Because of the 5 hearts he has all 5 elements
He has vast ammounts of knowledge and experience, due to his age
Can shape shift to better suit the opponent
Long, Mid, and Close range moves
Extremely powerful with a large ammount of chakra


Hashirama is a Demigod:
Long, Mid, and Short range attacks
Massive power and practically unlimited chakra
Huge scale abilities that are almost invulnerable(mokuton tree Madara created with a small portion of Hashirama's abilities)
Extreme Regeneration(without hand signs)
He can control and defeat the Kyuubi(don't know what that proves except that he's a beast)
He also took down Madara Uchiha who is owning the entire head team of the Ninja Alliance

I'd say Kakuzu who against most people is strong would be almost destroyed and held down by The First very quickly, one giant tree and the vines could attack nonstop until he was exhausted of his chakra or Hashirama felt like destroying him
 

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kakuzu sets his trees on fire and using a combo elemental attack, makes the fire blow all over the battlefield with a fuuton jutsu. considering hashirama has to figure out he has to kill this guy five times, that lends opportunity for a sneak attack. kakuzus jutsu enables him to have almost impenetrable doton armour, and can hide underground. he would have killed everyone on the battlefield had it not been for kakashi taking down his doton heart with a raikiri. hashirama has no raikiri so how is he supposed to hurt him? its deidara all over again. and as long as kakuzu has raiton and katon of his own he can continually slice through the mokuton/burn it.
"no physical attack works against me"
ability to maneouvre and attack from different directions.
massive destructive fuuton that nearly killed kakashi
only way to defend against his raiton element is another raiton as strong.
mastered all 5 perfectly. he didnt just get them. he trained.
more experience than hashirama
can tear out his opponents heart
combines two elements and increases power immensely
restrain and control someone once captured in the black threads.


im sure 5 lives is better than limited regeneration. kakuzu can split apart and reattack his arms so his versatilitys much higher than normal.

Massive power and practically unlimited chakra
manga proof of this please

Bringer-of-Darkness gives Hashirama time to grab a bite from Burger King and sh*t on Kakuzu
lol one of his hearts breaks him out

Hashirama with ease. Come on, this is just ridiculous
why?

We're all know that Hashirama is a good man and Hokage with good intentions.
all we know about him is he had the original idea for will of fire which only involves selfishly loving your village and no one else

You believe Kakuzu survived because of his strenght, I believe that Hashirama ****ed him but let him gone since he's not evil but a decent man who would let his enemys escape
even a good man wont let a spy escape so he could bring an army when he comes back for revenge.

Would be kinda absurd if Hashirama killed weaklings who fought him.
why? it was wartime and killing was what needed to be done. even kakashi kills people.

Hashirama, whose strength was considered a fairy tail, destroys Kakuzu.
who is also considered a freak of nature.

databook says he lost to Mokuton
the mere fact hashi needed it and didnt just beat him wiht taijutsu/healing means kakuzu was rather strong

Hashirama crush Kakuzu with a single Mokutontechnique. The Mokutons tendrils will crush Kakuzu and his beasts easily
what if kakuzu just fires a raiton? and with his doton armour he cant be hurt

What if Hashirama create the flower treeworld? The tendrils themselves would crush Kakuzu and the flowers polen will cause paralyzation.
kakuzus basically a zombie. he rips hashiramas heart out

And don't forget Hashiramas medical skills which are far above the level of the current best medical Ninja, Tsunade
wrong. madara took back his statement and said tsunades using the same exact jutsus hashi did

He doesn't even need handseals and thus his recovery will render Kakuzus attacks useless.
show me him having impressive recovery. you cant as youve never seen it. tobi didnt need hand seals and minato did. who won that though?

Someone like Kakuzu is Akatsuki-mediocrity before Pain and Itachi, Madara, who possessed the EMS and was called a legendary invincible Ninja, lost to Hashirama
we dont know what happened in that fight. madara had no kill intent and was facing the entire village and kurama and mito. and kakuzu imo could take itachi evenly.

even the current Madara raves of Hashiramas powers again and again
and kabuto said hes invincible. stop bringing hype up! its useless in a fight.

just the manga obviously pointing out recently who was one of the strongest ninja ever
why recently though? youd think hed be called strongest hokage and not hiruzen. youd think raikage would think hashiramas unsurpassable but he didnt. youd think kabuto would say hashiramas invincible, not himself.

And now let's take a look at the flower-treeworld which Madara created in an instant and compare its size with the meteors
so that automatically means hashirama can?

So you gonna tell me Kakuzu reflect this in an instant growing forrest with his pitiful techniques?
yes because being able to merge katon with fuuton is pitiful...remember he never even tried till naruto showed up and was outnumbered/had intel on his abilities.

Even Naruto needed a ton of clones with Kyuubis power to stop a weaker Mokuton
a tiny bit of kyuubis power and they were all base form clones. kakuzu with 2 hearts basically stopped naruto doing the same thing.

. I don't remember Kakuzu could do something against being hit with Amaterasu by a single glance of Itachi
no physical attack hurts him. amaterasu can burn all it likes on the doton armour

Or what can Kakuzu do if Itachi activates his Susanoo with Totsuka and Yatas mirror in order to crush him?
itachi will die from overuse. kakuzu can just hide underground when totsuka gets close, then use his arm to drag itachi out of susano.

Huge scale abilities that are almost invulnerable(mokuton tree Madara created with a small portion of Hashirama's abilities)
lol madara has hashiramas full power, given to him by kabuto

Extreme Regeneration(without hand signs)
show me scans of him demonstrating this

He can control and defeat the Kyuubi(don't know what that proves except that he's a beast)
useless in a fight with a human

He also took down Madara Uchiha who is owning the entire head team of the Ninja Alliance
correction, he, mito and the entire village took down madara uchiha who is completely inferior in every way to the madara fighting the kages.

For me, Sasori is the weakest Akatsuki member. He got killed by a grandma and a little weak girl like Sakura
sakura proved in that fight that she was a "brat to be reckoned with" as sasori puts it. she had the antidote and physical strength without which said grandma would have lost even though chiyo was an immensely strong puppeteer, and knew virtually all of sasoris moves. so strong that she can control ten puppets all at once.

Stop overstimate Kakuzu so much, we're talking about the first Hokage who has beaten Madara with the Kyuubi,
was madara full power or trying to kill him? did hashirama simply trick him and cheapshot him? did madara use his full MS abilities? was hashirama alone or did he turn kurama on mads? you just dont know.

if madaras huge katon that took an entire division of suiton users to extinguish didnt even put a noticeable dent in mokuton then kakuzu isnt doing anything to mokuton.
raiton pierces anything and doton armour tanks most physical attacks
 
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